I will never ever understand why somebody waiting 4+years for something would spoil themselves right away on it either. You do you
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Naughty Dog addresses TLOU Part 2 leaks
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I will never ever understand why somebody waiting 4+years for something would spoil themselves right away on it either. You do you
I'm mystified as to why some people are actually praising whoever did this. How does spoiling years of your coworkers' hard efforts fix anything? I can't imagine how sick I'd feel if I'd spent that much time on a project, poured that much of myself into such a big team effort, only to have it unceremoniously shoved on the internet before it was ready. All it does is distract from any of the real problems at Naughty Dog, and inflict even more damage on morale. Anybody thinking this is some kind of "justice" haven't got the first fucking clue.
The spoilers are going to be so fucking hard to avoid. This is the last game I'd want to have spoiled. Fucking hell.
That leaker is the scum of the earth. I feel for ND here. I got spoiled myself yesterday about probably the biggest moment/sequence in the game and honestly, I could cry. I've been anxiously waiting for this game for years, just for some asshole to come in and spoil it all. At least I didn't see any footage, but what I read was enough to destroy my excitement. Go fuck yourself, whoever it is and I hope his or her ass gets sued to high heaven.
There needs to be a huge culture change within the ND organization. Sony needs to ring the reigns in and stop making them operate like super stars. The employee ratings are terrible and if you have one ready to sabatoge on top of the other bad shit going on there to employees, it's time to get rid of culprits and re-write some rules.
Is there any source and corroboration on the leaker being a disgruntled employee other than the implication in Jason's tweet?
If that's the case the person is hurting his coworkers just as much as his bosses. It must be awful to see something you were excited to finally share with the public after years of work just get splattered all over the internet like this.
And the rumor that it was a QA tester not getting paid - how does that even happen? Unless no one at Naughty Dog is getting paid - which you'd thing we'd have heard about by now - or the QA tester works for a third-party contractor, in which case their beef is probably with that contractor. Either way I wish people would stop saying it's an unpaid Naughty Dog employee unless there's a source somewhere.
If that's the case the person is hurting his coworkers just as much as his bosses. It must be awful to see something you were excited to finally share with the public after years of work just get splattered all over the internet like this.
And the rumor that it was a QA tester not getting paid - how does that even happen? Unless no one at Naughty Dog is getting paid - which you'd thing we'd have heard about by now - or the QA tester works for a third-party contractor, in which case their beef is probably with that contractor. Either way I wish people would stop saying it's an unpaid Naughty Dog employee unless there's a source somewhere.
The person who leaked this did it to hurt naughty dog but in the end it will hurt their career more and they will probably be sued and blackballed which they deserve.
The whiny people bitching about it won't affect sales at all.
You guys think they'll stop over working their employees so this doesn't happen again? My guess is no lol
This of course is the event that leads Naughty Dog to EXCLUSIVELY make cartoonish platformers.
EMBRACE TRADITION.
EMBRACE TRADITION.
Regardless of wether you believe that it was justified or not, its clear that something has to change at ND internally, IF this truly is the result of a disgruntled employee. Combined with the crunch stories, it doesn't exactly paint a pretty picture of what's going in inside ND.
Their opinions don't meter because they have only a total of 20 minutes of random context-less footage and about a dozen plot bullet points to base their opinions around.
And they are quite aware of it as well, so in the end, yes I expect most of those "angry fans" to get this game day 1.
Lol probably not but things like this will probably happen again
Are you saying spoilers will ruin the game? I do think he's unjustified, at this point, but maybe this is his way of protesting poor work conditions. You lack context, and so do I. Your argument is equivalent to workers shouldn't go on strike because it hurts other employees. I'm not arguing either of these things are morally right, but let's not let knee-jerk reactions get the best of us here. There is clearly more to this story.
Someone on resetera recommended me this site https://www.thegamecollection.net/the-last-of-us-part-ii-ps4
I mean, if the leaker signed an NDA and broke the contract, being sued is the bare minimum.
At least you're open about your bloodlust I guess lol
I'm conflicted. As a person I feel empathy and I feel bad for all the people over at ND that poured their heart and soul making this game, even in not-so-ideal conditions. As a consumer, if this confirms the story bits are real, then I'm not interested in the product. I guess these points of view don't invalidate each other.
As for the person who leaked this, I'm sure there are actual legal ways to deal with them. You know, breach of contract and all that. Wishing for them to be named and thrown to the Internet mob for some "gamer justice"... that's definitely not cool.
As for the person who leaked this, I'm sure there are actual legal ways to deal with them. You know, breach of contract and all that. Wishing for them to be named and thrown to the Internet mob for some "gamer justice"... that's definitely not cool.
Nah I think you're wrong on this one. Alot of us feel we're in the endgame and aren't going to spend $60 to find out what we already know. Especially given Ghost of Tsushima comes out a month later and some of us are unemployed.
Of course not. If anything the conditions will probably get worse. Like stricter working conditions and more punishing NDAs.
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These people likely fall either under
1. Fanboys of other consoles
2. Idiotic sense of social activism
3. Children
The idea that someone shouldn't be punished for breaking an NDA is fucking laughable. Especially since it comes from what is likely to be a billion+ dollar product from hundreds of people who worked on it for years. Someone on this thread wrote something as stupid as the person who did this is doing something inspiring.
If it was an employee than context is they are out of line for leaking the game and should be sued for it. That's not knee jerk that's the truth.
It was all a plot by Amy Hennig! Couldn't let Druckmann get away with it.
People are stupid, and growing less intelligent by the day.
Next question!
Sure, they are out of line and probably should be sued. My point is don't you think this could be a protest to their conditions? We do not know how this employee was treated. We are assuming ND is in the right and the employee is just belligerent for no reason. We have to understand that reason to know the full story.
It's a terrible way to protest that will result in the person being blackballed from the industry, this is not excusing the working conditions if they are bad but this is the worst possible way to handle it and will only result in negative things happening to them not ND over this.
Better than assuming that a vocal minority that doesn't matter anyway will affect sales when they won't.
Yeah don't automatically believe this until we get ACTUAL reporting on this and not just hearsay or off the cuff commentary.
It's a horrible shame for everyone who put this together, only for it to be spoiled like this after the tens of thousands of man hours that have undoubtedly gone into this.
To those who wish to avoid spoilers, I would highly suggest you vastly reduce the amount of browsing you do online / avoid anywhere where there may be a comment section. People are posting big story beats in the most random places.
To those who wish to avoid spoilers, I would highly suggest you vastly reduce the amount of browsing you do online / avoid anywhere where there may be a comment section. People are posting big story beats in the most random places.
I don't think you can call people children and then also accuse people of console war nonsense in the same list.
Seeing what Naughty Dog posted, I'm somewhat bothered that they do not say 'the leaked information is not true." Instead, "it's disappointing to see the release and sharing of pre-release footage from development." It makes me wonder how much Naughty Dog (and Sony) knows about the leak after the fact or leading up to the leak.
If that's the case for the leaker in question, he/she better have a good lawyer because they are going to wish they were under the jail when Sony is done with them.
If that's the case for the leaker in question, he/she better have a good lawyer because they are going to wish they were under the jail when Sony is done with them.
Because this is the feedback loop people have with the internet. The most abrasive content gets the most eyes on, gets internalized, projected, repeated ad infinitum.
Nice! Thanks for this. Already active.
I mean sure if all you want from games are their plot overviews in textual form.
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I don't think so. It's unlikely Naughty Dog just happened to have the most disgruntled employee of any game released in the last decade.
It makes more sense that the lockdown facilitated this and you have someone who might've had to resort to an anonymous board post in the past having easier access to materials. The unique factor might be a laxing of security due to lockdown working setups rather than a uniquely frustrated employee.
If this really was a tactic to get back at Naughty Dog for something it seems misguided. Yeah it sucks for ND management and PlayStation as a whole that this happened but it isn't going to have THAT big of an impact on the success of the game. Sucks more for fans, the developers in the trenches at ND... lots of people who didn't do anything wrong getting the shit end of this stick.
Someone completely random just sent me (a long with a group of 80 or so people) a message on PSN spoiling it.
Nowhere is safe. This is so fucked.
Nowhere is safe. This is so fucked.