I will never ever understand why somebody waiting 4+years for something would spoil themselves right away on it either. You do you
See below.There is a middle ground between being disappointed and destroyed by a leak.
Regardless of it, the leak happened and you can't do much now.
My friend has been crying about this, it's a realll shit feeling when something you been killing yourself over gets sent out and ruined for people early.
People are so selfish and fucked. But its the process of moving from a creative medium, to releasing it to the public. Always feels like giving your child away.
Too bad the internet can fucking suck. But its good a lot of people are avoiding and protecting from it.
I can only assume they are children.I'm kind of mystified as to why some people are actually praising whoever did this. How does spoiling years of your coworkers' hard efforts fix anything? I can't imagine how sick I'd feel if I'd spent that much time on a project, poured that much of myself into such a big team effort, only to have it unceremoniously shoved on the internet before it was ready. All it does is distract from any of the real problems at Naughty Dog, and inflict even more damage on morale. Anybody thinking this is some kind of "justice" haven't got the first fucking clue.
The person who leaked this did it to hurt naughty dog but in the end it will hurt their career more and they will probably be sued and blackballed which they deserve.There's 'showing sympathy' and then there's just bloodlust. You have people hoping whoever leaked this gets sued to oblivion, jailed and probably even worse. But yeah, 'sympathy' lol.
The whiny people bitching about it won't affect sales at all.Oh I'm sure it will still sell well. Just not as good as it would have before all of this.
Considering the responses in this thread so far? Lol.You guys think they'll stop over working their employees so this doesn't happen again? My guess is no lol
So you think all of the angry fans out there upset at the leaks are still going to Shell out $60 day 1? That is quite a bit of optimism you have there.
When you have people actively hoping this person is sued and jailed, 'put the spotlight' on them, etc., it's bloodlust
Lol probably not but things like this will probably happen againYou guys think they'll stop over working their employees so this doesn't happen again? My guess is no lol
I'm mystified as to why some people are actually praising whoever did this. How does spoiling years of your coworkers' hard efforts fix anything? I can't imagine how sick I'd feel if I'd spent that much time on a project, poured that much of myself into such a big team effort, only to have it unceremoniously shoved on the internet before it was ready. All it does is distract from any of the real problems at Naughty Dog, and inflict even more damage on morale. Anybody thinking this is some kind of "justice" haven't got the first fucking clue.
Is £49.99 the best pre order deal there is?
Normally new games are the £44 mark in the UK.
When you have people actively hoping this person is sued and jailed, 'put the spotlight' on them, etc., it's bloodlust
perhaps the higher ups will sign more checks next time thenI'm mystified as to why some people are actually praising whoever did this. How does spoiling years of your coworkers' hard efforts fix anything? I can't imagine how sick I'd feel if I'd spent that much time on a project, poured that much of myself into such a big team effort, only to have it unceremoniously shoved on the internet before it was ready. All it does is distract from any of the real problems at Naughty Dog, and inflict even more damage on morale. Anybody thinking this is some kind of "justice" haven't got the first fucking clue.
Nah I think you're wrong on this one. Alot of us feel we're in the endgame and aren't going to spend $60 to find out what we already know. Especially given Ghost of Tsushima comes out a month later and some of us are unemployed.It will sell as good as it would have before all of this. Leaks are not relevant to the purchasing decision of the mass market.
Of course not. If anything the conditions will probably get worse. Like stricter working conditions and more punishing NDAs.You guys think they'll stop over working their employees so this doesn't happen again? My guess is no lol
These people likely fall either underI'm kind of mystified as to why some people are actually praising whoever did this. How does spoiling years of your coworkers' hard efforts fix anything? I can't imagine how sick I'd feel if I'd spent that much time on a project, poured that much of myself into such a big team effort, only to have it unceremoniously shoved on the internet before it was ready. All it does is distract from any of the real problems at Naughty Dog, and inflict even more damage on morale. Anybody thinking this is some kind of "justice" haven't got the first fucking clue.
If it was an employee than context is they are out of line for leaking the game and should be sued for it. That's not knee jerk that's the truth.Are you saying spoilers will ruin the game? I do think he's unjustified, at this point, but maybe this is his way of protesting poor work conditions. You lack context, and so do I. Your argument is equivalent to workers shouldn't go on strike because it hurts other employees. I'm not arguing either of these things are morally right, but let's not let knee-jerk reactions get the best of us here. There is clearly more to this story.
People are stupid, and growing less intelligent by the day.I don't understand the trend of folks reading or watching out of context ending spoilers of something and deciding "wow this game is fucking trash, they ruined it". The same thing happened with FF7.
If they broke a contract, why should they not be?
If it was an employee than context is they are out of line for leaking the game and should be sued for it. That's not knee jerk that's the truth.
If you say so.
It's a terrible way to protest that will result in the person being blackballed from the industry, this is not excusing the working conditions if they are bad but this is the worst possible way to handle it and will only result in negative things happening to them not ND over this.Sure, they are out of line and probably should be sued. My point is don't you think this could be a protest to their conditions? We do not know how this employee was treated. We are assuming ND is in the right and the employee is just belligerent for no reason. We have to understand that reason to know the full story.
Better than assuming that a vocal minority that doesn't matter anyway will affect sales when they won't.
Yeah don't automatically believe this until we get ACTUAL reporting on this and not just hearsay or off the cuff commentary.Damn. Not even getting paid. Wow.
I doubt we will ever know the details, but I do wonder if it was an HR/payroll issue.
ThisI'm mystified as to why some people are actually praising whoever did this. How does spoiling years of your coworkers' hard efforts fix anything? I can't imagine how sick I'd feel if I'd spent that much time on a project, poured that much of myself into such a big team effort, only to have it unceremoniously shoved on the internet before it was ready. All it does is distract from any of the real problems at Naughty Dog, and inflict even more damage on morale. Anybody thinking this is some kind of "justice" haven't got the first fucking clue.
These people likely fall either under
1. Fanboys of other consoles
2. Idiotic sense of social activism
3. Children
I don't understand the trend of folks reading or watching out of context ending spoilers of something and deciding "wow this game is fucking trash, they ruined it". The same thing happened with FF7.
I feel so bad for Naughty Dog man. All that hard work and effort gone.
I don't think you can call people children and then also accuse people of console war nonsense in the same list.
Nah I think you're wrong on this one. Alot of us feel we're in the endgame and aren't going to spend $60 to find out what we already know. Especially given Ghost of Tsushima comes out a month later and some of us are unemployed.
Regardless of wether you believe that it was justified or not, its clear that something has to change at ND internally, IF this truly is the result of a disgruntled employee. Combined with the crunch stories, it doesn't exactly paint a pretty picture of what's going in inside ND.