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ReactionShot

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Source: Nature

Evidence is growing that some coronavirus variants could evade immune responses triggered by vaccines and previous infections. Researchers are trying to make sense of a tsunami of lab studies released this week that raise concerns about some emerging variants and mutations.

"Some of the data I've seen in the last 48 hours have really scared me," says Daniel Altmann, an immunologist at Imperial College London, who worries that some of results could portend a reduction in the effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines.

But the picture is murky, Altmann and other scientists emphasize. The studies — which examined the blood of small numbers of people who had recovered from COVID-19 or received a vaccine — probed only their antibodies' capacity to 'neutralize' variants in laboratory tests, and not the wider effects of other components of their immune response.

Neither do the studies indicate whether the changes in antibody activity make any difference to the real-world effectiveness of vaccines or the likelihood of reinfection. "Are these changes going to be important? I really don't know," says Paul Bieniasz, a virologist at the Rockefeller University in New York City, who co-led one of the studies.

 
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Noppie

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But the picture is murky, Altmann and other scientists emphasize.
The studies — which examined the blood of small numbers of people who had recovered from COVID-19 or received a vaccine — probed only their antibodies' capacity to 'neutralize' variants in laboratory tests, and not the wider effects of other components of their immune response.

Neither do the studies indicate whether the changes in antibody activity make any difference to the real-world effectiveness of vaccines or the likelihood of reinfection.
Let's see hoe many skip this and go full on panic based on yet another sensationalist title.
 
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Bullshit and sensationalized "article"

Journalism (anything that relies on ads) fucking sucks. Only peer reviewed sources and institutional announcements should be trusted when it comes to the efficacy of vaccines.
 

Hecht

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Nature does a lot of peer-reviewed studies and the like, but this article is mostly just saying "it might, we don't know."

Both South African teams will soon test the 501Y.V2 variant with serum from people who participated in COVID-19 vaccine trials, and similar studies are under way at labs worldwide. A team co-led by Bieniasz found that mutations in the receptor-binding domain of 501Y.V2 caused a modest drop in the potency of antibodies from people who had received either the Pfizer or Moderna mRNA vaccines[SUP]6[/SUP]. That's "a reassuring finding", says Moore, but it will be important to test the consequences of other mutations in 501Y.V2.

Whether these could lessen the effectiveness of vaccines is still uncertain, says Volker Thiel, an RNA virologist at the University of Bern in Switzerland. Most COVID-19 vaccines elicit high levels of antibodies that target diverse regions of the spike protein, so some of the molecules are likely to be able to block variants of the virus. And other components of the immune response, such as T cells, might not be affected by 501Y.V2. "Although the vaccines target only the spike gene, they should still mount an immune response that is diverse enough that these new variants should be covered," Thiel says. "But experimental studies need to be done."

I don't mind if it's posted in one of the main COVID threads, but this doesn't need its own thread until they actually have some hard data.
 
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