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Kyle Cross

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Hopefully they recast James. Guy Cihi is a nutjob fuck who deserves no more roles, right alongside Reuben Langdon.
 
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Dreading the fuck outta this. My gut instinct is
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PLASTICA-MAN

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Eh...a reboot would indicate they would continue the story. Shattered Memories is more like re-imagining as the story has no avenue for continuation as it is well tied up in all the endings.

Which is the same I think for this Bloober's Silent Hill 2.

Haha what you are referring to is the definition of soft reboot like GOW or MK9 but Shattered Memories was the definition of a full reboot with reimagining like Mirror's edge and Tomb Raider. What we may get in the new SH leaked is supposed to e a soft reboot. What we are getting with SH2 is a non 1:1 remake. I k'ow it can get be confusing some times haha.
 

Slaythe

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Yo what's up with guy Cihi ? Not aware of it. Tbh hadnt heard of him outside of sh2.
 

Angie

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I'm confused how no one knew anything last week, SH rumors was almost seen as a meme, now that Dusk talked all of the sudden people knew about this too.
 

m4st4

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'See? I'm real' sequence. I would need to see that one remastered, plus half an hour of Bloober team talking about how they're passionate to a miniscule atomic levels and how they will preserve Team Silent's legacy, to have faith in this.

Thay being said... Carefully, silently...hyped, a bit?
 

Disco

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Oct 25, 2017
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One of my favorite games ever. Not that optimistic about this remake, just a graphical punch up and maybe recast voice actors would be all I'd want at this point

Man Sony Spartacus or whatever the hell that service is called really needs to put up 2 and 3 to play
 

daninthemix

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Any Silent Hill remake would have to be exceptional for me to bother with. Much more interested in new games, and the old games are too sacred.
 

Darkknight2149

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I've said it before, but Bloober Team remaking Silent Hill 2 is literally a worst case nightmare scenario. Especially with them changing the puzzles and adding endings, good god.

Silent Hill 2 was lightning in a bottle, so any remake without the original team is already like making a George Lucas-style Special Edition of Se7en without David Fincher. Just remaster it. But to have Bloober Team doing is downright disastrous.

Hopefully they recast James. Guy Cihi is a nutjob fuck who deserves no more roles, right alongside Reuben Langdon.
Definitely not. It doesn't matter what he's like in real life, he pretty much is James Sunderland. The character was even modelled after him. Apparently he did something horrendous I wasn't aware of.
 
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evilromero

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I hope this happens so that person with the blossom avatar provides us with a delicious meltdown thread. Then we'll learn the blossom monster came from an artist at Bloober and it'll be like a chef's kiss.

Full disclosure, I enjoyed LoF and BW from Bloober so I'd be curious how'd they do SH.
 

Cheesebu

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Sep 21, 2020
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Fucking horrible. F-tier edgelord developer that looks down on people who have experienced trauma remaking an A-tier game with a sensitive story. Radical.
 

samoscratch

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Nov 25, 2017
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Wish we could just leave silent hill 2 alone and move past it, I would love to see something new and creative.

It's a great game but i'm kind of over it.
Blooper doesn't have the maturity or chops to take on something like this imo.

But it sounds like they won't be making too many changes story wise at least. I'll reserve judgement until release but not feeling optimistic.
 

Kyle Cross

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Definitely not. It doesn't matter what he's like in real life, he pretty much is James Sunderland. The character was even modelled after him.
I don't care how much you like him as the character. We're talking about a guy who believes COVID, a virus that killed over 6 million people, and AIDs, which has killed over 36 million, are hoaxes. He doesn't just believe it, he spreads these so called opinions to anyone who listens, which is predominately Silent Hill fans that have built a cult of personality around him. YES, it fucking matters what he's like in real life. He will be paid for the job. He will be further platformed by it.

Are you listening to yourself?
 

Hayeya

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On the plus side: They have the base material, hopefully they do not fuck it up
On the Down Side: DO NOT FUCK IT UP, THIS IS FUCKING SILENT HILL 2
 

Winston1

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Oct 27, 2017
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They already remade 1. Shattered Memories.
Shattered Memories was supposed to be a remake originally, when Konami hired Climax Studios. If I recall correctly, the guys at Climax weren't interested in doing a Silent Hill 1 remake. They then realized that Konami wasn't specific with how much the game needed to resemble SH1, so they used that loophole to create a completely original game that just begins similarly to SH1 and has characters with the same names as the characters from 1.
 

Uzupedro

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That user (and a couple others as well) have this bizarre thing of acting as the Supreme Silent Hill protector and no one else should dare to go against them and their sacred franchise.
It has long crossed the line of just being attached to it, it's just annoying and weird at this point, and I usually try to respect those who are truly passionate about something.
 

wafflebrain

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Definitely not. It doesn't matter what he's like in real life, he pretty much is James Sunderland. The character was even modelled after him.

Lmao get a fucking grip. Wtf am I reading? Do you seriously not realize how stupid, irresponsible, and detached from reality that type of perspective is? So let's take this idiocy to its logical conclusion, by your logic those called out in the #metoo movement should still be afforded roles cause "it doesn't matter what they're like in real life". You're a clown.
 

Helix

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I'm confused how no one knew anything last week, SH rumors was almost seen as a meme, now that Dusk talked all of the sudden people knew about this too.

the Domino effect, Dusk opened the floodgates at the cost of them getting DMCA'd and now that we are past that and made aware of SH actually making a comeback, others who may have heard about the same are putting what they know out there. at least, that's my theory.
 

Ashes of Dreams

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When you're saying it doesn't matter what someone that much of an asshole does in real life, it's time to take a step back from the romanticized worship of every aspect of SH2. Like, it's one of my favorite games of all time but ffs. Guy does NOT deserve to continue playing James.

Shattered Memories was supposed to be a remake originally, when Konami hired Climax Studios. If I recall correctly, the guys at Climax weren't interested in doing a Silent Hill 1 remake. They then realized that Konami wasn't specific with how much the game needed to resemble SH1, so they used that loophole to create a completely original game that just begins similarly to SH1 and has characters with the same names as the characters from 1.
That's not exactly how it went down. Climax were throwing around ideas for a Wii Silent Hill with an ice theme for awhile. That was later turned into a reimagining of SH1 after some conversations about it being on a new platform. I don't think anyone was being sneaky with any loopholes. Their initial pitch was just rejected and they worked some ideas from it into what they eventually made is all.

And as for Shattered Memories, it's a bit more than just the same starting place that goes in a different direction. The entire game is meant to be a mirror to SH1 that subverts fans expectations. The basic flow of the story is the same. Like, "visit the school, walk to "the Balkan", go to hospital, etc." You meet Dahlia at the Balkan, only instead of a church it's a nightclub and Dahlia is... not the same. It's more clever as a SH1 reimagining than people often give it credit for. Though ultimately it does tell a VERY different story.
 

Darkknight2149

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I don't care how much you like him as the character. We're talking about a guy who believes COVID, a virus that killed over 6 million people, and AIDs, which has killed over 36 million, are hoaxes. He doesn't just believe it, he spreads these so called opinions to anyone who listens, which is predominately Silent Hill fans that have built a cult of personality around him. YES, it fucking matters what he's like in real life. He will be paid for the job. He will be further platformed by it.

Are you listening to yourself?
This is me separating the art from the artist. If you have a source of him doing something despicable, I'm open to having my mind changed, but I've never seen anyone take his deranged beliefs seriously.

That user (and a couple others as well) have this bizarre thing of acting as the Supreme Silent Hill protector and no one else should dare to go against them and their sacred franchise.
It has long crossed the line of just being attached to it, it's just annoying and weird at this point, and I usually try to respect those who are truly passionate about something.
It's called having an opinion. I don't appreciate being insulted and I've seen a lot of people jump to the defense of certain games I've criticised before.

Lmao get a fucking grip. Wtf am I reading? Do you seriously not realize how stupid, irresponsible, and detached from reality that type of perspective is? So let's take this idiocy to its logical conclusion, by your logic those called out in the #metoo movement should still be afforded roles cause "it doesn't matter what they're like in real life". You're a clown.
Stop putting words my mouth. I fully support #metoo.

What he do that I don't know about?
 

Angie

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the Domino effect, Dusk opened the floodgates at the cost of them getting DMCA'd and now that we are past that and made aware of SH actually making a comeback, others who may have heard about the same are putting what they know out there. at least, that's my theory.
They should have done that last year.
That way Katha would still be here and would not get harrassed
 

Helix

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This is me separating the art from the artist.

yeah nah, fuck this. there is no separating the art from the artist because they are the fucking same. they inherently benefit from it. If your policy rings true then we shouldn't be avoiding stuff from the Harry Potter because it's seperate from JK Rowling.
 

m4st4

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James honey, did something happen to you? After we got separated in that long hallway? Are you confusing me with someone else?
 

Darkknight2149

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yeah nah, fuck this. there is no separating the art from the artist because they are the fucking same. they inherently benefit from it. If your policy rings true then we shouldn't be avoiding stuff from the Harry Potter because it's seperate from JK Rowling.
I don't support any of JK Rowling's or Guy Gihi's atrocious beliefs.
 
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This is me separating the art from the artist. If you have a source of him doing something despicable, I'm open to having my mind changed, but I've never seen anyone take his deranged beliefs seriously.


It's called having an opinion. I don't appreciate being insulted and I've seen a lot of people jump to the defense of certain games I've criticised before.


Stop putting words my mouth. I fully support #metoo.

What he do that I don't know about?
He's kind of a nutjob in general, saying there's no evidence of aids is pretty messed up. He could be replaced I think and it'd be fine, but yeah.. disappointing.
 

Ashes of Dreams

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Darkknight2149

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I apologise if I offended anyone. I was approaching my comments from the standpoint of someone who cares about the character and the games.

I was aware that Cihi was posted idiotic conspiracy theories on social media, but it sounds like the situation is more egregious than I realised (with potential indoctrination going on, from what you guys are saying).

I've stricken that out of my comment.
 

CheapJi

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I'm gonna have reasonable expectations from this.
All the praise for Shattered memories in this thread warms my hearth. Loved that game.
 

Mikch85

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Don't wanna sound like a ungrateful asshole but... In terms of remake, shouldn't the first Silent Hill get the treatment in priority? PS1 3D games tend to age poorly, SH2 still holds up pretty well (granted, especially playing it with an emulator.)
 

SolidSnakex

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Don't wanna sound like a ungrateful asshole but... In terms of remake, shouldn't the first Silent Hill get the treatment in priority? PS1 3D games tend to age poorly, SH2 still holds up pretty well (granted, especially playing it with an emulator.)

The rumors are that Konami is remaking MGS3 and SH2, so they're going for the fan favorite games in each series.