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Nancy Pelosi has landed in Taiwan, defying warnings from China
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But you need to stand up to bullies or they'll keep getting more aggressive (USA included)
Nah the White House is fine with the visit now.
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It was really interesting (as someone who's learning mandarin) that I thought pinyin was some special way for English speakers to learn Chinese and was the cheaters way not used by locals etc and it is… but it's also something that came about as a way of basically advancing/modernizing their technology and became standardized amongst most people? because China and Taiwan's character systems are so vast/complicated. So when Mao and his party pushed for a new romanized way of translating Chinese characters for computing, specifically keyboards. Taiwan recognized the importance/significance of the idea, but absolutely understandably hated Mao. So they have their own version called Zhuyin (feel free to correct me if that's not entirely correct) I'm not sure how common pinyin has become in Taiwan. I was just interested to learn that history and the importance of that component of language to the Chinese and taiwanese's typing skills (faster than pretty much any other as they started developing T9 type capabilities long before the U.S etc) and culturally, socially etc. But that effectively the language itself too was split off because of the desire for distinction/independence between Communist China and Taiwan.
(Again really sorry if I'm off on anything, do not mind being straightened out or clarified on this. May also not be the right place/time but I think it kind of speaks to the independence of Taiwan a bit).
(Again really sorry if I'm off on anything, do not mind being straightened out or clarified on this. May also not be the right place/time but I think it kind of speaks to the independence of Taiwan a bit).
I mean, the travel had to go through The White House, as they provide the military escort, so despite statements downplaying support they backed Pelosi's move.
I'm not so sure that's true. My wife is glued to her phone atm (she watched the plane land), and it seems like it's really big news in Taiwan media.
Not really, as you are still completely ignoring Taiwan's own agency.
The Taiwanese government seems perfectly happy to host Pelosi.
Zhuyin is used to teach children in Taiwan (generally right next to the actual Mandarin character). However, I have seen pinyin used in stuff like street signs.
I know that Taiwan has said that they want to transition to having English be an official national language in a few years (along with Mandarin).
I'm just getting this from my wife who is tuned in to Taiwan social media (mostly expats in the area, she's learning Mandarin, but not at the level she can read social media). This was also a day or two ago, so it'd be understandable that things could be totally different now that it's actually happening.
China bans thousands of Taiwan food imports as Pelosi trip riles
Halt on everything from vegetables to baby food comes as Sino-U.S. tensions soar
asia.nikkei.com
Stuff like this has been going on for a while - they banned pineapple a while back which was a big deal, because Japan responded by saying they'd buy all the pineapple Taiwan wanted to sell them.
Apparently, they just banned Taiwanese chips and so they're lots of jokes about how the Chinese tech industry is going to be demolished. Mind you, they banned chips that you eat, so the jokes are about how all those Chinese programmers aren't going to be able to function because they won't have anything to snack on while they're working.
You don't need to be sorry, it's messy history
Chinese language originally had no phonetic notation system. Chinese scholars tried to invent such a system since late 19 century so people can have better education. zhuyin(注音) system was invented in 1908 by famous scholar Zhang Taiyan. Government of ROC adapted his system, made some revisions and made it official phonetic notation system for Chinese.
After civil war, both ROC and PRC continued to use this system. But PRC developed their own 'Pinyin(拼音)' system in 1950s and ban the use of Zhuyin. Taiwan, as ROC's successor, has been using Zhuyin until this day.
China will never recognize Taiwan. The CCP have been literally fighting the precursor (Guomindang) to Taiwan since their founding. They view it as a fulfillment of the revolution.
Pelosi defends Taiwan visit amid China tensions: ‘Never give in to autocrats’
‘We cannot stand by as China proceeds to threaten Taiwan,’ says speaker in op-ed, but trip poses diplomatic headache for Biden
www.theguardian.com
Well...the genocide and war crimes as official state strategy for one.
If the CCP doesn't want to feel "threatened" then they should stop threatening Taiwan. It's simple.
Did what happened in Hong Kong occur as a result of some overt show of Western solidarity?
Genuine question.
Russia and China invade to further their imperial ambition.
US invades to spread democracy and take girls to schools.
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Good on her. More politicians need to start recognizing Taiwan as an ally and a country in the coming years as the CCP's mask will continue to slip on the global stage like Putin's.
Time to stop to pretending China is just another global partner and solidify real alliances more clearly.
Get ahead of things rather than act caught off guard when they invade Taiwan and follow in the footsteps of their russian friends with war crimes and inhumanity.
Time to stop to pretending China is just another global partner and solidify real alliances more clearly.
Get ahead of things rather than act caught off guard when they invade Taiwan and follow in the footsteps of their russian friends with war crimes and inhumanity.
If we assume post Ukraine invasion that China is considering an invasion would a preemptive sign of unwavering support to head it off not be a good idea?
It has been official state policy and the US has supported tons of war crimes for a very long time. The Jarkata Method shows this.
The US has annexed territory many times. It still has colonies.
Its just another politician from another country coming to say they support Taiwan, but wont recognize us as a independent country, and China will fly plane to our ADZ and ban some product and Japan or Korea will buy it.
And its fun to see the little pink going crazy on their universe.
Were more focused on other thing, this was more of a bet money if she land or not.
In the modern era.
Post Vietnam saw a rapid change in how we conduct war. If you can't see that perhaps educated yourself and follow what is happening in Ukraine thord.
Are we really going back to the Victorian Age to somehow imply that the United States in 2022 is on the same playing field as Russia and China when it comes to territorial ambitions?
Marshall Islands were annexed then.
Same with folks bringing up Russia too, yes?
I won't deny there was a change but if you don't think America still doesn't commit nor encourage other countries to commit war crimes then I'm not sure what to tell you.
Yes, the US is not currently doing the exact same thing that Russia is currently doing. That's a given.
Nancy should stick to juking the stock market, taking lobbyists money, and lying to her constituents.
For context here it's not so much I hate her as it has to do with America falling apart and she has a job here to try to fix things. She can make comments about her support from here. While she does her job. While her constituents are homeless and dying.
For context here it's not so much I hate her as it has to do with America falling apart and she has a job here to try to fix things. She can make comments about her support from here. While she does her job. While her constituents are homeless and dying.
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So...you agree there's a difference between Russia and the US!
No, they weren't. That's a complete misunderstanding of the situation.
The Marshall Islands, along with Micronesia, Palau, and the Northern Mariana Islands, were part of the of the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands, a UN trust territory of former Imperial Japanese islands overseen by the US after WWII. Those lands were never annexed by the US, and when the TT was dissolved each part voted on their political status. The Marshall Islands, Micronesia, and Palau voted for independence (which they have), and the NMI voted to become a territory of the United States.
Again, none of them were forcibly annexed into the USA.
It's also stupid because it doesn't actually take attention away from anything. Our right wing media and the Republican outrage machine marches on and dictates the conversation literally regardless of what is actually happening in the world.
Welp. Feels like Russia & Ukraine all over again.
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Thanks for the clarification. It was really fascinating to learn about that shift. Like I said I kept thinking, oh I'm learning incorrectly because it's the "convenient" but shortcut way. Learning that while that is true, it's also the current way of learning for native people as well. How much of the part about shifting to being able to use it for keyboards is true?
I"m actually curious what the right-wing media is saying about this (but am not going to watch/read to find out). Theoretically they should be for this visit, and half of the Republican Senators support it publicly. But on the other hand ... Pelosi.
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I always feel two conflicting things about this type of story:
1. Do not bend to bullies, Taiwan is independent, deal with it
2. Why does someone 10+ years past her expiration date get to play brinksmanship with a nuclear power?
1. Do not bend to bullies, Taiwan is independent, deal with it
2. Why does someone 10+ years past her expiration date get to play brinksmanship with a nuclear power?
It happens every time.
I'm betting they don't talk about it very much unless China does something they can scare their viewers with.