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Nancy Pelosi decides to get her hair done indoors without wearing a mask.
- Thread starter Armoured_Bear
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This just feeds into the Trumpian belief that masks aren't helpful - if even our Democratic leaders can't lead by example, why bother?
So? Doesn't change the fact that many are giving Pelosi a pass.
This post distills selective outrage down to its essence. Why are we ignoring the hypocrisy and recklessness here?
Actually, they're saying they shouldn't have even been operating indoors, so why were they? Why exactly is the owner sending security footage from his own store breaking the rules?
so when nancy pelosi said she thinks "all lives matter" i guess she didn't include the lives of hairdressers
lots of people are getting haircuts
lots of people are giving haircuts
I may have criticisms of my rep, but I'm not going to join the right on harping on this. She wears a mask most of the time, advocates for masks, and tells others they should wear masks. Not going to spend energy equivocating this with the actions and words of the right. "Don't give them ammunition"? They manifest ammunition out of nonsense and nothing. Evidence is meaningless when the platform is built on willful ignorance and removal of critical thought.
Because there are levels of recklessness.
Getting your hair done like this was stupid but it's not on the same planet as the stuff Trump and his followers do.
It appears to have been a set up.
Pelosi said that the staff of the salon told her that it was okay.
"The Speaker always wears a mask and complies with local COVID requirements," Drew Hammill, deputy chief of staff for Pelosi, said in a statement to The Guardian. "This business offered for the Speaker to come in on Monday and told her they were allowed by the city to have one customer at a time in the business. The Speaker complied with the rules as presented to her by this establishment."
That seems to check out given that the salon itself released the tape.
Amplifying this just helps anti-maskers.
The fact that people see these as "rules" is part of the problem. You simply resent being told what to do. Your concern should be the virus and protecting yourself. Trump and his associates are literally telling people not to wear masks and drink bleach.
I wish folks would stop playing into the false narratives that Republicans paint, where Liberals want you to be perfect and on point at all times. They do that so any misstep from any individual Democrat will be seen as the ultimate hypocrisy and therefore what they say is invalid. This is why Republicans can continue to keep being awful. Time and time again we see people playing into their hands - even in this very thread. You're doing their work for them.
I wish folks would stop playing into the false narratives that Republicans paint, where Liberals want you to be perfect and on point at all times. They do that so any misstep from any individual Democrat will be seen as the ultimate hypocrisy and therefore what they say is invalid. This is why Republicans can continue to keep being awful. Time and time again we see people playing into their hands - even in this very thread. You're doing their work for them.
Part of that is a result of Ivanka's other actions and platform. Where one instance is a mistake in a trend of generally progressive and pandemic safe actions while the other is a deliberate step in a trend of regressive and dismissive actions actively working against pandemic safety. The context of the person and their history matters.
This is absolutely fucking stupid. The country is in a life and death fight over masks. Someone who is supposed to be a prominent leader on the right side being seeing out like this will obviously be used as ammo for those on the wrong side. And she should fucking know that.
Wait she said All Lives Matter? That's worse than this tbh
wow, Chris Cillizza is such a piece of shit
the entire framing of this piece is "chances are Pelosi was mislead by her hairstylist, sure, but knowing the rules is important since every stumble will result in being trolled by Trumpsters...the likes of which I'm going to spend this entire piece validating and amplifying"
read the piece, though
supposedly she wore her mask throughout most of the session, but removed it while her hair was being washed, and entered the establishment under the express instruction of her hairstylist
in context, it looks like a relatively minor stumble, which is being amplified mostly by highly disingenuous actors
the entire framing of this piece is "chances are Pelosi was mislead by her hairstylist, sure, but knowing the rules is important since every stumble will result in being trolled by Trumpsters...the likes of which I'm going to spend this entire piece validating and amplifying"
read the piece, though
supposedly she wore her mask throughout most of the session, but removed it while her hair was being washed, and entered the establishment under the express instruction of her hairstylist
in context, it looks like a relatively minor stumble, which is being amplified mostly by highly disingenuous actors
If you can only criticize behavior that's as bad or worse than Trump's, you'll let plenty of bad stuff slide.
Don't give in to the derail:
Black Lives Matter
Fighting for Justice Our hearts ache for the family of George Floyd and the entire Minneapolis community. Last week, our nation witnessed a man being murdered on TV. Unfortunately, this is part of a pattern of racial injustice and police violence particularly against the African American...
pelosi.house.gov
ok but replace pelosi with another right wing politican in this exact scenario and not only would there be a thread about it, you wouldn't have people thread whining
she did, as recently as 2019
Twitter Drags Nancy Pelosi For Saying ‘All Lives Matter’
Nancy Pelosi said "all lives matter" at a televised town hall meeting.
newsone.com
That's not what I asked about, I'm not surprised that she has a BLM page on her website. Did she actually say "all lives matter" publicly or is that just a joke/bs?Don't give in to the derail:
Black Lives Matter
Fighting for Justice Our hearts ache for the family of George Floyd and the entire Minneapolis community. Last week, our nation witnessed a man being murdered on TV. Unfortunately, this is part of a pattern of racial injustice and police violence particularly against the African American...
I mean tbh I don't think it's a huge deal per se, but I do think it's a bad look as a leader to promote wearing masks and other precautionary measures to stop the spread of COVID and then be seen in public not doing those things.
if this is the case then yeah, this is a non story and only exists to fuel the fire
Thanks, that's what I was looking for. Bleh.she did, as recently as 2019
Twitter Drags Nancy Pelosi For Saying ‘All Lives Matter’
Nancy Pelosi said "all lives matter" at a televised town hall meeting.
yeah the "BUT KIDS IN CAGES" shit in this thread is lame but you don't need to give her the benefit of those comparisons to view this as a minor mistake
yes, as recently as 2019, she was all lives mattering the BLM movement
Probably because right wing politicians are actively and encouraging people to defy mandates which are contributing a great deal to our astronomically high infection rates.
I dont know why people keep making this comparison. Which do you spend more energy criticizing/rebuking someone with a generally good trend and intentions with a mistake or someone who's an unrepentant asshole deliberately making the same "mistake" as a statement against it being a mistake at all?
In your theoretical thread, did the business also break the rules by bringing them in the establishment, explicitly tell them they can remove their mask for part of the time, and then send in the security tapes to Fox News of the customer 'breaking the rules' by doing the things that very business instructed them to do?
" Fox also reported that the owner of the salon, Erica Kious, was angry that Pelosi had been allowed to violate the rules put in place during the coronavirus pandemic that mandates haircuts can only be given outside. Kious said it was "a slap in the face that she went in, you know, that she feels that she can just go and get her stuff done while no one else can go in, and I can't work." "
"This business offered for the speaker to come in on Monday and told her they were allowed by the city to have one customer at a time in the business," Pelosi spokesman Drew Hammill said. "The speaker complied with the rules as presented to her by this establishment."
This article is just confusing. Why did they let her in then unless their purpose was to try to "expose" her?
"This business offered for the speaker to come in on Monday and told her they were allowed by the city to have one customer at a time in the business," Pelosi spokesman Drew Hammill said. "The speaker complied with the rules as presented to her by this establishment."
This article is just confusing. Why did they let her in then unless their purpose was to try to "expose" her?
this is being reported on by the bbc, so it's not like it's just reported by right wing sources
www.bbc.com
(i mean, arguably the beeb is pretty far to the right too, but you know what i mean)
Nancy Pelosi seen without mask inside San Francisco hair salon
The US House speaker, who has called Mr Trump a coward for not wearing a mask, claimed ignorance of rules.
www.bbc.com
(i mean, arguably the beeb is pretty far to the right too, but you know what i mean)
...and?
The facts are the following:
So she went for a haircut (legal)
They told her she could come inside (against the current covid rules, can only be outside)
They told her she could remove her mask during the hairwash (sounds like that's also against the rules)
The owner sent the security tape to Fox News of her 'breaking the rules' by doing what the business instructed her to do
Sure, she should have known hair salons couldn't yet have people indoors, but this is totally a set up
It looks like that applies only to San Francisco. Newsom allowed salons in California to operate indoors starting Monday, which is when this happened. The suddenness of reopening is part of the strain for my mom, so I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt that they didn't know Newsom's rules didn't apply to them. But you're right in that it's not a good look and could cause legal problems by releasing this.
It may be a set up. Doesn't change the fact she should have known better. It's possible to criticize someone for being wrong, even if they were being set up.
Yeah that's shitty, I assume she hasn't done this in the last year and a half but even then it was clear that such a response was disingenuous right wing garbo.
He's terrible af
Places have precautions in place.
Do you expect them to stay closed for the next 2 years?
Apparently, Pelosi's stylist rents a chair from the owner who released the tape.
The stylist gave Pelosi incorrect information (i.e. state-level information... and not more restrictive local-level guidelines) which Pelosi followed.
The owner then sent the tape to Fox News. It's entirely unclear why the stylist was allowed to operate by the landlord given the restrictions
The stylist gave Pelosi incorrect information (i.e. state-level information... and not more restrictive local-level guidelines) which Pelosi followed.
The owner then sent the tape to Fox News. It's entirely unclear why the stylist was allowed to operate by the landlord given the restrictions
As great as she is as Speaker, Democrats always suffer when she's the face of the party. But she's not the face of the party right now, so IDGAF.
Agree. If she doesn't know the Covid19 restrictions in her own damn state/county (which I highly doubt was the case), that's a problem. Granted I tend to side on the idea that this likely isn't changing many minds, because most people on this issue seem dug in, but whether its a "set up" or its purely an issue of optics, this absoutely reeks of a rich/powerful person saying the rules don't apply to them the way they do to us plebs.
So actual headline is Nancy Pelosi wears mask for 95% of the hair cut, removed it for hair wash at request of stylist?
Reporting makes it sound like she did something intentionally wrong
Reporting makes it sound like she did something intentionally wrong