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Name games (from any era) that actually approached/ met the polish and detail of Nintendo games.
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The best kart racer was and is Walt Disney World Quest: Magical Racing Tour
How many times do I need to repeat this?!
How many times do I need to repeat this?!
I can't think of a single open world Nintendo game matching the detail inherent in The Witcher 3, RDR2, HZD, or like...any Ubisoft game this generation. Assuredly "detail" is misused here?
Generally speaking, though--God of War.
Generally speaking, though--God of War.
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Hollow Knight is another example of a game that I've found is polished to a ridiculous degree, and it's made by three people.
I remember Mario + Rabbits Kingdom Battle turning out to be well polished despite some fears when it was revealed.
You've never heard of "Nintendo polish" or the "Nintendo seal of quality"?
I actually brought up "detail" here thinking about Crash Team Racing, anticipating some Mario Kart fanboys would try to complain about it not being 60fps.
Your question is about polish, but then you randomly compare a particular genre.
Yes. Nintendo makes Nintendo games... ? And they are damn good at them.
However they are not the only ones.
Also plenty of games that are polished and detailed.
As a random example: Its like saying, why does no one else make Gran Turismo games like polyphony does.
Yes. Nintendo makes Nintendo games... ? And they are damn good at them.
However they are not the only ones.
Also plenty of games that are polished and detailed.
As a random example: Its like saying, why does no one else make Gran Turismo games like polyphony does.
Mario kart trying to beat a game from 1999 for 20 years.
This thread is Nintendo garbage bait shit.
Also lmao at saying " these games are trying to beat a game from 5 years ago"
are you drunk? crash team racing is remake of 1999 game which even mario kart tried to copied and failed. it even tried to copy Nitro kart ffs
This thread is Nintendo garbage bait shit.
Also lmao at saying " these games are trying to beat a game from 5 years ago"
are you drunk? crash team racing is remake of 1999 game which even mario kart tried to copied and failed. it even tried to copy Nitro kart ffs
People seem really offended.
I love lots of non-Nintendo games, but I still feel Nintendo has a reputation with polish. (Yes, there are also Nintendo games that lack polish. WiiU Mario Tennis for example).
I would consider the Metal Gear Solid games (especially 2 and 3) to be very polished.
I would wager the reason for lack of polish on many games is it doesn't make much of a difference in sales.
edit: an example of an AAA series that has lots of money into it and is beautiful, but I feel lacks polish would be the Uncharted series.
edit: another example is I'm currently playing through (and loving) FFXII on Switch, and I wouldn't say it's polished as much as many Nintendo games. Maybe polish needs a definition to all agree on first?
I love lots of non-Nintendo games, but I still feel Nintendo has a reputation with polish. (Yes, there are also Nintendo games that lack polish. WiiU Mario Tennis for example).
I would consider the Metal Gear Solid games (especially 2 and 3) to be very polished.
I would wager the reason for lack of polish on many games is it doesn't make much of a difference in sales.
edit: an example of an AAA series that has lots of money into it and is beautiful, but I feel lacks polish would be the Uncharted series.
edit: another example is I'm currently playing through (and loving) FFXII on Switch, and I wouldn't say it's polished as much as many Nintendo games. Maybe polish needs a definition to all agree on first?
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Seriously. I thought it was accepted that Nintendo has a long running reputation of polish for decades. That the Nintendo seal of quality is something they earned.
For some reason everyone took that to mean "all other games are shit", or are playing it up for supposed comedic effect.
I guess I'm more confused. How do you define detail? FPS? Any more examples?
Years of iteration and the same people behind long running series help a lot. Having a vision and executing to that vision goes a long way. Games appear to lack polish when too many unnecessary features are crammed in and feel unfinished.
In general though; their games are very bug free and run well, to the point that you can say they consistently put out polished games. But to discredit other developers that put out very polished games is silly. There are so many wonderfully polished games out there.
Your question seems to stem more around why can't other developers break through in genre's that Nintendo dominates in? I think the IP helps tremendously and they have years of iteration behind them. It is tough to take down Mario Kart when it's on it's 10th revision and you are spinning up a kart racer for the first or second time and trying to be different than what already works just to stand out from the incumbent. Even if you do put something polished out, it's still an uphill battle.
If this was a thread about Nintendo polish and appreciating it, you'd be fine. Instead you asked why other developers very rarely put out games to that level of polish which is just wrong. There are tons of well polished games put out every year, most of them indies too.
In general though; their games are very bug free and run well, to the point that you can say they consistently put out polished games. But to discredit other developers that put out very polished games is silly. There are so many wonderfully polished games out there.
Your question seems to stem more around why can't other developers break through in genre's that Nintendo dominates in? I think the IP helps tremendously and they have years of iteration behind them. It is tough to take down Mario Kart when it's on it's 10th revision and you are spinning up a kart racer for the first or second time and trying to be different than what already works just to stand out from the incumbent. Even if you do put something polished out, it's still an uphill battle.
If this was a thread about Nintendo polish and appreciating it, you'd be fine. Instead you asked why other developers very rarely put out games to that level of polish which is just wrong. There are tons of well polished games put out every year, most of them indies too.
Very interesting thread. I think most first party games (most not all) from Sony and Microsoft are just as high quality. They usually have established ips with a direction they are fully aware of. They also know their console in and out better than any other dev. I think the thing that separates Nintendo is they don't mind taking their time with a game. They will delay if needed. They also don't focus on graphics first. They know the way they want the game to play they aim at achieving that first and foremost. So on top of taking advantage of what the hardware can do they prioritize gameplay and fun factors first and foremost.
You are aware that's just a relic from a time where anyone with the know-how could make and sell their own unlicensed games with Nintendo being none the wiser, right? It doesn't really mean anything beyond "we get a cut if you buy this".
What is this thread lol. There are plenty of games that meet and even exceeds the polish of Nintendo. Are we saying that PS, XBOX and PC players have no masterpiece tier games lol ?
Celeste most recently. I think what OP is going for is that gameplay first, polished to perfection gamefeel which is Nintendo's forte. Other companies excell more in storytelling or spectacle, but the gameplay from Nintendo is generally among the strongest examples in the industry. Portal is another good example.
It's all subjective according to our taste, however, that game is considered one of the, if not the greatest game of all time. Doesn't "come close" is a little extreme.
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Just because I don't own the console didn't mean I never played the games, from friends and family.🤔 ❔
Look at your thread title again. You've framed the entire discussion around the idea that Nintendo are obviously this superior entity that towers above all other developers, and that it's a rare thing for any game to meet their lofty standard.
Games that are as good as Nintendo games aren't rare. There's literally thousands of them.
I mean, yeah, their games have polish, but it's not like they're uniformly just leagues above everyone at all times and I've never come across anyone who thinks like that. What even is polish here? Few glitches? Tiny details? Gameplay and world cohesion? Variety of things to do? Nintendo does a great job at this, but they're absolutely not even close to being the only ones, or are unusually good at it, and it's kinda weird to think so or broach a question which leads as if that's just the status quo.
Well Sonic and Sega All Stars Racing Transformed is better than any Mario Kart game, particularly for single player. Tons of Nintendo games have lacked polish or have been clunky in various ways over the years by the way, overall their quality is really good but to act like there haven't been major missteps over the years is just false.
Non-Nintendo gamers aren't going to understand this because the thing that elevates Nintendo games above (most) games is their overall game feel and design, which you can't convey in a screenshot.
That being said, the Souls games, Resident Evil games, DOOM and the new God of War are examples that spring to mind.
That being said, the Souls games, Resident Evil games, DOOM and the new God of War are examples that spring to mind.
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