Wow. WOW. See previous about my favorite quote from this show, and reflect on the fact that Wheelie doesn't say it, and why that line makes Hot Rod a much better character than anyone in the Bayformers.
Gen 1 and the movie were literally 30 min (180 for the movie) commercials for toys.Wow. WOW. See previous about my favorite quote from this show, and reflect on the fact that Wheelie doesn't say it, and why that line makes Hot Rod a much better character than anyone in the Bayformers.
I mean he's right.
The Matrix comes out of nowhere as a huge important thing when seasons 1 and 2 have multiple instances where you'd go "wait, if he had this all along, where did it go when the quintessons rebuilt Optimus as a crocodile? Why didn't the Autobots ask Optimus to show it to them when the Decepticons sent a fake to impersonate him? Etc."
The movie is a colossal mess.
Yep. TFTM is the single most cynical piece of marketing bullshit I have ever seen.There's too many "to sell toys" in the movie with multiple characters that don't contribute anything. Who lives and who dies is determined by whose toys are discontinued or not or who is a new one.
Or maybe they had their childhood ruined by it :D
The UK comic was so, so much better than the US version, mainly thanks to Simon Furman. Although unfortunately he did also give us Death's Head, who was a wanker (and ended up shoehorned into the TF continuity, which was bullshit).Think it worked better for those of us in the UK as it felt like we had a fair bit more stuff regarding the Matrix in our version of the comic.. Given we had so much additional content and many more issues than the US version.. (The aforementioned issue where Prime dies in a computer game is issue #24 in the US but #105/106 in the UK)
I mean he's right.
The three main acts of the movie have nothing to do with each other. Unicron, the Quintessons, the Decepticons, they all more or less crash into each other and aren't meaningfully worked into the story. Which is odd, cuz the story originally planned to have the Quints be working FOR Unicron, only for them to change it?
There's too many "to sell toys" in the movie with multiple characters that don't contribute anything. Who lives and who dies is determined by whose toys are discontinued or not or who is a new one.
The Matrix comes out of nowhere as a huge important thing when seasons 1 and 2 have multiple instances where you'd go "wait, if he had this all along, where did it go when the quintessons rebuilt Optimus as a crocodile? Why didn't the Autobots ask Optimus to show it to them when the Decepticons sent a fake to impersonate him? Etc."
The movie is a colossal mess.
Oh, hell yeah. For all of its many flaws, the 86 film is still miles ahead of the Bayformers bullshit. Those films are so, so bad.All true, and yet it was still the best TF movie ever made until last December.
Yep. TFTM is the single most cynical piece of marketing bullshit I have ever seen.
Or maybe they had their childhood ruined by it :D
And I agree with this:
The UK comic was so, so much better than the US version, mainly thanks to Simon Furman. Although unfortunately he did also give us Death's Head, who was a wanker (and ended up shoehorned into the TF continuity, which was bullshit).
Yeah, he somehow managed to be in both continuties, although I'm not quite sure how they hand-waved away the fact that he was Transformer-sized and human-sized. It's been such a long time that I just can't remember the details!
The only thing I dislike about the movie is that orange robot that speaks in rhymes. Otherwise it's gas from start to finish.
Yeah, he somehow managed to be in both continuties, although I'm not quite sure how they hand-waved away the fact that he was Transformer-sized and human-sized. It's been such a long time that I just can't remember the details!
Yep. TFTM is the single most cynical piece of marketing bullshit I have ever seen.
Or maybe they had their childhood ruined by it :D
And I agree with this:
The UK comic was so, so much better than the US version, mainly thanks to Simon Furman. Although unfortunately he did also give us Death's Head, who was a wanker (and ended up shoehorned into the TF continuity, which was bullshit).
I love the animated Transformers movie. Way better than Bayformers or even Bumblebee.
And now I'm going down the TF Wiki rabbit hole again!.Wheelie gave us the greatest Wiki entry of all time though.
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Wheelie_(G1)
Yep, it aged really wellTransformers the Movie is perfect.
This thread should be shut down.
that's what 'used to' meansSo, he mentions his older videos that he used to have, looks like they're not available on his channel anymore though as there are no let's plays and that series he referred to is gone.
But I wonder why he'd delete them.
I've only got one video left on my YouTube channel
If anyone cares for my (and my brother's) long take. We've been doing a podcast where we ostensibly watch 80s movies, but really it's just the shit we watched as kids. YouTube link to Transformers:
I thought this thread was gonna be about someone spending their retirement account on Toys.
Unless they had bigoted content in them, I think it's better to keep them around. It's interesting seeing how a channel evolves.I've only got one video left on my YouTube channel
And I used to have around 20
sometimes dead is better
you do you, but there's a lot of shit i made that is nothing but embarrassing to me that is luckily gone nowUnless they had bigoted content in them, I think it's better to keep them around. It's interesting seeing how a channel evolves.
I have a ton of embarrassing shit on my channel, but I keep them around because they're a part of my channel's history.you do you, but there's a lot of shit i made that is nothing but embarrassing to me that is luckily gone now
I have a ton of embarrassing shit on my channel, but I keep them around because they're a part of my channel's history.
I did have to delete videos though for community guideline/copyright reasons. I deleted over 1000 1 second videos I made in 2010 because I got a community guidelines strike from one for being low effort/spam content. However, I still have some interesting shit to walk through.
I've certainly never held the cartoon show up as any sort of good fiction (The Marvel comics were great though), but Beast Wars fell at the first hurdle for me as a kid by looking like shit. It's always been the concept of cool looking robots which turned into cool looking vehicles and machinery which appealed to me. Beast Wars had goofy looking robots which turned into even goofier looking animals. It never made sense to me as a kid why they even bothered to Transform at all.
Doesn't mean it was good though. I would argue it still would have been made. It was all about marketing toys.Yeah, just how much Beast Wars do you think they would've made without Gen 1. Hint: zero.
Do you really think children would rather buy toys that transform into gorillas and giant rats, than supercars and fighter jets? Come on son.Doesn't mean it was good though. I would argue it still would have been made. It was all about marketing toys.
Not the point and kids did. Still doesn't mean G1 cartoon was any good.Do you really think children would rather buy toys that transform into gorillas and giant rats, than supercars and fighter jets? Come on son.
Yeah. Beast Wars was way after my time, but I would not have been interested in semi-organic looking animal toys at all. I began to bail on G1 around when they introduced Pretenders. I just couldn't get down with the concepts of janky looking Transformers wearing giant human suits. I didn't get it then and I don't get it now. Also once G2 hit and everything became a neon coloured mess and vehicle modes started having stickers instead of translucent plastic windows.Do you really think children would rather buy toys that transform into gorillas and giant rats, than supercars and fighter jets? Come on son.
He is right, the animation was inconsistant at best, characters would appear and disappear randomly and plots made little sense
Planet-sized god can only die by a macguffin, wants to destroy it, characters are caught in the mess as it escalates. Honestly it's pretty easy to follow even for kids.He is right, the animation was inconsistant at best, characters would appear and disappear randomly and plots made little sense