Just say "I'm ok with racism". No one believes your reasoning.
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I might as well drop this discussion since there's nothing we can agree on here unfortunately. I can already see where this is heading.
But brah having a black friend means you are automatically given the N word pass.
Bwhaha. The "he has black friends therefor he's not racist" card.
Imagine being enough of a piece of shit to defend a piece of shit like Joe Rogan.
This is the expected discussion here. I'm a piece of shit. Thanks I'm out.
I call it as I see it. Maybe be a better person instead of defending a racist piece of shit like Rogan
By this standard he is unquestionably a Nazi collaborator because he pals around with them (see image) and regularly invites them onto his show
This is by design. YouTube is full of Gateway Racists that use its algorithm to promote Deep Racism.
Though when you step back and really look at Joe, you realize Gateway Racism is basically outright full-on Racism. It's not immediately obvious if you just catch a few of his videos with less controversial topics or guests, which is why it's effective against people that don't know what they're getting into.
Though when you step back and really look at Joe, you realize Gateway Racism is basically outright full-on Racism. It's not immediately obvious if you just catch a few of his videos with less controversial topics or guests, which is why it's effective against people that don't know what they're getting into.
I do think he is a gateway to the right. I have a good friend who became a big Rogan fan. He's always saying stupid shit now like "both sides of the media are equally bad", Trump isn't that bad, etc etc. It's unfortunate.
I have Joe Rogan a chance a few years back. I also gave Adam Corolla that same chance. It was fine for a few episodes, but I started to feel... uncomfortable with the themes, phrases, guests, and even casual discrimination they shared. It was like being at Thanksgiving dinner with your racist uncle.
Joe Rogan enables those who are looking to be enabled.
Joe Rogan enables those who are looking to be enabled.
i'm not familiar who joe rogan is, but is a commom and old tactic is to say something you are not to supress criticism and to get more attention of people you want to convince to what you have to say. The fascists love this tactic its part of the modus operandi, for example they say they are not sexist they love and respect women but thats obviously a lie, they say they love minorities, but they really hate, lies and deception is part of it.
Good choice, I always avoid those conversations at work too
You're free to prove me wrong. Especially when we have him calling a theater full of black people planet of the apes.
Go ahead I'm waiting
The dude is on tape comparing black people to apes. That's definitely racism. What's your excuse?
Rogan is a fucking moron. He platforms Nazis and other right-wing fuckos and likely doesn't understand the significance of doing so because he's that dense.
Joe Rogan is just so dumb. Whenever he speaks about a subject you have read about even a little bit, you realize he makes the most trivial and senseless points. Even in MMA, he really doesn't know what he is talking about. He is great about telling a story, but he is so bad at actually describing what is going on in a fight.
Making racist comparisons of black people to apes definitely puts you past right wing and very much into racist territory.
What's your defense of that?
User banned (1 month): Handwaving racism over a series of posts
He was making a joke, but honestly, there is no good context for this. It's just an incredibly stupid thing to say and I think even he would admit that. But as someone who leans left and listens to him a lot, I don't think he is racist, despite one comment 10 years ago. Much like I do not think Justin Trudeau is racist for dressing in blackface.
He's pals with Gavin McInnes. He has him on his show. That alone is disqualifying.
And that's not even getting into actual racist shit Joe has said himself.
He's right wing.
I sat through a Rogan standup up show just last month. It was pretty 'right wing'.
His opening act spent most of his time complaining about transgender people.
Rogan's jokes themselves were a mix of jokes that kind of skated the line but occasionally crossed it, though he would throw in a bone or two to show his 'neutrality', like a generic statement about how 'racism is bad' before launching into some other joke about the differences about men and women or what it's like to drive around the parts of his town were gay people live.
lots of complaining about 'pc culture' and 'comedians can't say anything any more' etc etc from both him and his opener.
One of his 'punchlines' to one of his jokes was that gay people were 'like lions.' He 'was glad they existed, but didn't want to be surrounded by them'.
The whole night really didn't leave much room for doubt about what kind of vibe it was going for. I can't take seriously the people who pretend there's no right wing draw to Rogan's whole brand.
His opening act spent most of his time complaining about transgender people.
Rogan's jokes themselves were a mix of jokes that kind of skated the line but occasionally crossed it, though he would throw in a bone or two to show his 'neutrality', like a generic statement about how 'racism is bad' before launching into some other joke about the differences about men and women or what it's like to drive around the parts of his town were gay people live.
lots of complaining about 'pc culture' and 'comedians can't say anything any more' etc etc from both him and his opener.
One of his 'punchlines' to one of his jokes was that gay people were 'like lions.' He 'was glad they existed, but didn't want to be surrounded by them'.
The whole night really didn't leave much room for doubt about what kind of vibe it was going for. I can't take seriously the people who pretend there's no right wing draw to Rogan's whole brand.
lean pretty far left. Gavin sucks ass and I think Joe thinks so too
listening to this again it almost sounds like a direct response to this thread
Yeah his conversations with Yang and Elon Musk were great.
And when he had a cook like Roseanne on, you could tell he was there for the lolz.
I don't really see Joe as right-wing, just someone who gives them a platform.
How about you read the rest of my post and not just the first 3 words?
How is making a racist joke not racist?
You "think" he would admit it but has he?Has he addressed his constant shilling of right wing views in any meaningful way?
You're so focused on defending this dude that you're reaching into hypotheticals to do it.
Claiming Gavin McInnes was no one in 2015 is a blatant fucking lie. He was already the leader of the rapidly growing Proud Boys. They just didn't have a name yet. His movement was very public in Brooklyn/NYC.
Source; I was living there.
as someone who is left leaning and not a racist do you make racist jokes?
Joe is outright stating in that video that he believes it is frustrating when people catch people being horrible people in a short moment in a long form podcast.
Joe doesn't like being called out when the mask slips. Racism is fucking racism. A person can manage to talk for hours and not say racist shit or have on blatantly racist guests (multiple times) when that person isn't racist. All it takes is not being racist. I can see why it's frustrating to someone like Joe to be called out on racism when that shit bubbles to the surface, but it's revealing for a reason.
Proud boys were founded in late 2016. Quick google search reveals this.
You're saying that people can make racist jokes without being racist. News flash: that isn't the case.
If you make a racist joke, you're a racist.
If you consistently provide a far reaching platform for people with racist views, you are at the very least an enabler of racist views.
If you do both those things (like Rogan) you're definitely Ok with racism.
You really liking this dudes content doesn't mean that he's not racist. It just means that you're Ok with his brand of racism because he entertains you.
If you're uncomfortable with that assertion, that doesn't make it Ok for you to go to bat for him and you should absolutely expect to be called out for it because, at the end of the day, you're saying you're fine with racism so long as you can have your lols