You mean at the end? Dragon lady hero sent him flying (he tried to turn her to dust but Aizawa saved her by erasing his quirk).
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You mean at the end? Dragon lady hero sent him flying (he tried to turn her to dust but Aizawa saved her by erasing his quirk).
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When I first saw it, I assumed he crashed as if he malfunctioned from the incomplete transformation. Looking at it now though... I have no idea. Right after crashing he switched gears to track Deku's new position though, so I suppose it's something related to the change in direction.
Nah at the start of the chapter
I made the same assumption, but Shigaraki didn't comment on it so it looks like he used his neck to change his trajectory lmao
It was a bit weird that sequence, my interpretation of it was he sensed Deku with search and immediately switched his focus, but his body couldn't keep up? Maybe because of as you suggested, he isn't fully baked?
Even Caleb had to go away and figure it out lol:
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I checked the chapter again and apparently Shiggy was already landing from his previous hop when he crashed his head down like that... uhh, it's even weirder now, lol. Dimple's suggestion makes sense, I think that's it. His body was maybe going to crash already (maybe it needed a break cause not fully baked?) but he still noticed Deku's movement so his head swiveled at the last moment or something.
.....took me a sec to realize what I was looking at here. lol All I saw was a butt and something coming out from under it....
I assumed Shiggy's 10.0 landing was because he hasn't used those types of powers at all and just doesn't know what he's doing. Deku probably would have done the same thing too after making a giant leap with OfA and not thinking it through. Difference is, Shiggy doesn't need to think it through since he'll just regenerate from a pesky thing like a broken neck.
Do we think Shigaraki's "hang on a second" thought bubble means anything besides "get back here", it kind of stuck out to me.
That said the league can probably show up for the save or I am just discounting whatever non quirk enhancements his time in the tank have him.
Better theory, he reaches too aggressively for the bullet in his pocket and accidentally dequirks himself.
Aizawa is pretty far away. Don't think he could use it before plummeting to the ground and getting jumped by everyone (Endeavor can't be too far behind).
That said the league can probably show up for the save or I am just discounting whatever non quirk enhancements his time in the tank have him.
Better theory, he reaches too aggressively for the bullet in his pocket and accidentally dequirks himself.
Would be a pyrrhic victory for the heroes after the devastating loss of X-Less, Crust, Funkman, and all those people Toga murdered.
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Series that are much smaller than mha so you can't really compare
Anyway mha does give a lot of spotlight to its side characters but it is more spread, other series have less characters so it gives a false impression they get more spotlight
Mirko also lost an arm, Hawks is at minimum scarred for life and eraser broke a leg
There's plenty of potential if horikoshi wants to go that route but I don't necessarily agree the villains will use
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Don't get me wrong, the villains have to walk away with a W here, but we all have different ideas on what that entails and how much of a victory it should be. I see them being forced to leave because something happens with Shiggy, not because the heroes push them back or something
I still believe there's a sweet spot where things are noticeably different in society but not so far gone yet that school is completely out of the question.
Nobody knows man lol. I could be completely wrong. I just look at the story and what's happening and try to go from there. Whatever happens, as long as it's satisfying I'm open to it
Also, sweet Vergil avatar!
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I'd like that. I can imagine his body failing at a critical point because of the incomplete transformation so despite having the upper ground (maybe? like prior to Shiggy malfunctioning) the villains decide to retreat. Ideally, if something like this happens, the heroes will have already been dealt a massive blow that changes things big time.
Hmm, yeah, I think this can still happen. Especially given the series' basic premise, it seems almost a necessity for the school to still play a role. I just hope that if that is the case, it won't seem as if this arc didn't happen and that there are proper repercussions. Aside from, say, Aizawa or some other teachers no longer being in the picture. The school's operation ought to be affected somehow.
Been meaning to change and I very recently saw some DMC5SE rumors (4chan though, lol) floating around so... *wishes it into existence*Also, sweet Vergil avatar!
Yeah, some shenanigans of that variety is what I'm leaning towards. Kinda like when there's a hype fusion or transformation in DBZ but they run out of time before they can claim complete victory
I agree. Maybe something happens where they have to work with other schools more? Hori kinda already teased that at the end of the remedial license exam and having an influx of new students and teachers could make a second sports festival or summer break fresh again.
Plus it puts us one step closer to Bakugo x Camie 😎
Ah, I see! DMC5 SE is practically guaranteed imo. You know Capcom. It's not a question of if Capcom will milk a game with ports and new editions, but how when lol. I'm hoping we get playable Vergil and maybe even a combined RE2/RE3 remake next gen
What's your favorite chapter of the arc so far?
Mine would be the climax of Twice versus Hawks. Hori did a really good job of building up the tension and the fight itself felt very desperate and scrappy. It was a great conclusion to twice's story too.
Runner-ups would be the chapter where Miruko goes ham and the chapter where Shigaraki wakes up and begins his rampage.
Mine would be the climax of Twice versus Hawks. Hori did a really good job of building up the tension and the fight itself felt very desperate and scrappy. It was a great conclusion to twice's story too.
Runner-ups would be the chapter where Miruko goes ham and the chapter where Shigaraki wakes up and begins his rampage.
For me, it has to be Mirko busting heads. Jesus, what a fight. Short, sweet, and oh-so visceral.
As much as I love Mirko
It has to be the chapter where Hawks not only cheated death but killed the villain fan favorite Twice.
Still makes me smile lol
It has to be the chapter where Hawks not only cheated death but killed the villain fan favorite Twice.
Still makes me smile lol
Twice's final scene with that last clone trying to give Toga the hanky really got to me. Damn, that was a gut punch.
Bones better drop everything and go Plus Ultra on this arc, cuz it's gonna blow anime onlies away if they bring their A-game. No more fucking movies, please.
Bones better drop everything and go Plus Ultra on this arc, cuz it's gonna blow anime onlies away if they bring their A-game. No more fucking movies, please.
If they do... my god.
I went back and reread those Mirko chapters to get some screens.
God, it'll be a hell of an arc if they put in the work.
Your fave could never. Mirko for main cast.
Same. The anime needs to be firing at all cylinders when they do this arc. Anything less would be a disappointment
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Absolutely these. Mirko the GOAT.If they do... my god.
I went back and reread those Mirko chapters to get some screens.
God, it'll be a hell of an arc if they put in the work.
Your fave could never. Mirko for main cast.
Sorry Bakugo, you are no longer the BakuGOAT. You've been demoted.
Lmao, great comparison.
Hey! That could legit work. Like, the schools having diminished resources due to the loss of some staff members and whatnot could be one reason to push for joint schooling instead or something.
I do so miss our quartet of delinquents. They need a comeback!
I only realized recently that Vergil only really becomes playable in rereleases, even outside of DMC. I bought UMvC3 when I got a PS3 so I forgot that Vergil originally wasn't in the base game. But yeah, I never doubted the existence of DMC5SE, it was just a matter of time. Hopefully the rumor is right that it's coming soon, among other things.
He's been flexing a lot, the art has all been fantastic. I really hope they pull out all the stops here.
I really liked how those four played off each other, the remedial lesson quartet is underrated
Lol yeah I think they absolutely keep Vergil from the base games so we all go out and buy the special editions. Did the rumor you saw say anything about a playable Lady or Trish?
Yeah I've been looking at those panels you posted and man, he might be doing his best work this arc. Some of the paneling is rivaling Dragonball, which to me is the gold standard. It doesn't flow quite as cleanly as Toriyama but it's a tad more expressive
You can really see the range in the first two - one is a vignette, the other is a frozen moment, and both are fantastic.
It's soo good. I love where the second panel's frozen at too. Mirko is getting grabbed but you can also see she just busted open a Nomu's head/hand with her leg.
Yup. And I gotta believe, no background - that was a choice. It draws the eye exactly where it's supposed to go and lends to the sense of stillness. Ugh, so good.
I mean, you can't have good paneling lol. But doesn't feel unreasonable to hope they translate the shots well.
Well yeah, but the idea would be they get as close as possible to adapting the fights well. Basically do what they did with Endeavor vs High End or one of my favorite fights Stain vs 1-A students. The impact shots were translated from the manga beautifully in those fights and everything was high energy. The flow felt right, you know?
I just don't want a repeat of season 4 where it felt like they did nothing to try to translate the energy of some fights from the manga. Deku vs Gentle comes to mind, as it feels forgettable in the anime but in the manga it's one of the best fights
I stumbled upon this article and was wondering, thoughts?
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Pride, Policing, and the Conservative Politics of My Hero Academia - Anime Feminist
My Hero Academia, in its proud declarations of right and wrong, good and evil, heroism and villainy, argues how the world should be. Understanding how My Hero Academia works means understanding what this prescription is, and who gets labeled the villains.
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Magne's character and death was mishandled by Hori, I'd agree on that much.
A lot of the rest there doesn't make as much sense to me. Hawks offering to help Twice leave his villainy behind, as well as the example of Gentle, are strong examples of the heroes, and the narrative generally, acknowledging that crime is more than just "some people bad". Toga and Spinner have these issues as part of the stories too. Toga could be seen as being "born bad", but the truth was that she was never given the support she needed.
The stuff about AfO not fitting into the real world, sociologically understood understanding of crime... He's a classic super-villain, out of an escapist, power-fantasy manga. So like yeah, but so?
If stuff like this makes MHA reactionary or conservative, it's only as much and maybe less than other stories of it's type.
A lot of the rest there doesn't make as much sense to me. Hawks offering to help Twice leave his villainy behind, as well as the example of Gentle, are strong examples of the heroes, and the narrative generally, acknowledging that crime is more than just "some people bad". Toga and Spinner have these issues as part of the stories too. Toga could be seen as being "born bad", but the truth was that she was never given the support she needed.
The stuff about AfO not fitting into the real world, sociologically understood understanding of crime... He's a classic super-villain, out of an escapist, power-fantasy manga. So like yeah, but so?
If stuff like this makes MHA reactionary or conservative, it's only as much and maybe less than other stories of it's type.
Natsuo is in denial but at least the story frames it as Endeavor doesn't deserve his forgiveness
AFO is basically a guy larping as a supervillain
His backstory us literally he was bored guy who likes a comic book got powers and decided he's Doctor Doom
Twice at least is also a victim of circumstances he was basically forced into crime and suffered a mental breakdown and no one but the villains helped him
The way I see it either Shiggy has to get nerfed or gimped and go into hiding after dealing this massive blow to the heroes and Japan in general OR everyone has to evacuate Japan and train in hiding for a time skip.
What do you do when this dude can just send a wave of decay through out that much of the land when ever he wants apparently? He either gets popped or they leave Japan.
What do you do when this dude can just send a wave of decay through out that much of the land when ever he wants apparently? He either gets popped or they leave Japan.
There are some points that I agree with in the article such as Magne who was really mishandled and borderline a joke character sometimes (but that, we can all easily agree on this, like, what was the point of her death anyway, showing Overhaul was a very nasty boy?)
But they don't mention Gentle and La Brava at all, and these two are basically an example of villains who aren't out there killing people for fun. And if I remember correctly, they were offered help after their arrest, they weren't told "you unredeemable pieces of shit go to prison because you bad".
I don't know, maybe there should be more characters with similar stories to Gentle and La Brava's, like an "ex-criminal becoming a hero"-type of character, I don't think there is any?
As for Hawks offering help to Twice not being mentioned, I assume the author doesn't read the manga. However I just want to say I'm a bit tired with people yelling "Hawks bad" because he killed Twice. Hawks basically begged him to surrender, protected him from Dabi's flames (ironically lol), he didn't intend to kill him at first but then Twice left him no other choice. Twice was a victim for sure, he needed help and didn't deserve to die, but come on, he wasn't an innocent cinnamon roll either lmao
Same case when they mention Endeavor, the "redemption" arc goes further than that in the manga and it's still not over. Tbh, I didn't like Endeavor at all because of his story of abuse, but he grew on me since he started to realize he needed to change. I think Horikoshi is handling his "redemption" arc quite well at the moment, but I do understand that some people have a problem with it and despise the character, because domestic abuse is really heavy stuff that they can relate to.
And there are some points in the article that are kinda uh what, especially the part about All for One when they say:
I mean... When you even look at what he's doing currently... Dude's fucked up, no question lol.
But they don't mention Gentle and La Brava at all, and these two are basically an example of villains who aren't out there killing people for fun. And if I remember correctly, they were offered help after their arrest, they weren't told "you unredeemable pieces of shit go to prison because you bad".
I don't know, maybe there should be more characters with similar stories to Gentle and La Brava's, like an "ex-criminal becoming a hero"-type of character, I don't think there is any?
As for Hawks offering help to Twice not being mentioned, I assume the author doesn't read the manga. However I just want to say I'm a bit tired with people yelling "Hawks bad" because he killed Twice. Hawks basically begged him to surrender, protected him from Dabi's flames (ironically lol), he didn't intend to kill him at first but then Twice left him no other choice. Twice was a victim for sure, he needed help and didn't deserve to die, but come on, he wasn't an innocent cinnamon roll either lmao
Same case when they mention Endeavor, the "redemption" arc goes further than that in the manga and it's still not over. Tbh, I didn't like Endeavor at all because of his story of abuse, but he grew on me since he started to realize he needed to change. I think Horikoshi is handling his "redemption" arc quite well at the moment, but I do understand that some people have a problem with it and despise the character, because domestic abuse is really heavy stuff that they can relate to.
And there are some points in the article that are kinda uh what, especially the part about All for One when they say:
I mean... When you even look at what he's doing currently... Dude's fucked up, no question lol.
A shonen jump manga shouldn't even try giving a domestic abuser a redemption arc at all. It's like if Ozai got a redemption arc in the Zuko plotline in ATLA.
That's what makes it interesting though. More than a redemption arc or any other name for it, Endeavor's change has been from a static, flat character to a 3 dimensional one. That's only good for the story, as we have seen from all the Endeavor focus in the back-half of the manga.
Honestly I feel like just the term "redemption arc" just muddles up the the whole debate. Most people won't even on agree on what it means to make amends or atone, or when it should happen, or if it can be fulfilled at all.
Eeeh well... Ozai is a merciless warlord so he's indeed unredeemable.
I would have been okay if Endeavor didn't get any "redemption" arc, he could have stayed a straight-up unredeemable pos. I was just genuinely surprised and curious by Horikoshi's attempt but also scared since it's heavy stuff, obviously.
I did say I thought Horikoshi was handling it "quite well", but honestly ? I have no idea what a "good redemption arc" would look like for a domestic abuser. I mean, I don't even have a good example of this kind of arc to compare, does such a thing even exist? I'm sure there are many examples of attempts but I assume they're not... good.
Hm I don't know, maybe I say all that because I wasn't a victim of domestic abuse myself (well not exactly, I did go through some abuse during my last relationship but it wasn't as bad as the Todoroki story, right) so I don't really have a clear-cut opinion about not giving redemption arc to abusers at all (okay, that last statement sounds weird, I didn't know how to phrase it lol).
Yeah, that's why I put "redemption" between quotation marks, because it's not really redemption but I didn't know how to describe it.
I would have been okay if Endeavor didn't get any "redemption" arc, he could have stayed a straight-up unredeemable pos. I was just genuinely surprised and curious by Horikoshi's attempt but also scared since it's heavy stuff, obviously.
I did say I thought Horikoshi was handling it "quite well", but honestly ? I have no idea what a "good redemption arc" would look like for a domestic abuser. I mean, I don't even have a good example of this kind of arc to compare, does such a thing even exist? I'm sure there are many examples of attempts but I assume they're not... good.
Hm I don't know, maybe I say all that because I wasn't a victim of domestic abuse myself (well not exactly, I did go through some abuse during my last relationship but it wasn't as bad as the Todoroki story, right) so I don't really have a clear-cut opinion about not giving redemption arc to abusers at all (okay, that last statement sounds weird, I didn't know how to phrase it lol).
Yeah, that's why I put "redemption" between quotation marks, because it's not really redemption but I didn't know how to describe it.
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