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TheGamingNewsGuy

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Been thinking about Dabi, is it bad that while i feel he has a sympathetic backstory - i consider him one of the least sympathetic charcters in MHA. I sympathise less with Dabi then i do with Shigaraki.
 

TheGamingNewsGuy

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Like i feel somewhat sorry for Dabi since his shit backstory but the way the flashback presented itself. Dabi was always a bit messed up in the head whose worse traits only got increased thanks to what Endeavour did. Unlike Shigaraki who seemed to be a nice person before his fall - Dabi already had some of his worst traits but what happened to him amplified them.
 

alexi52

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Been thinking about Dabi, is it bad that while i feel he has a sympathetic backstory - i consider him one of the least sympathetic charcters in MHA. I sympathise less with Dabi then i do with Shigaraki.
I feel the same type of sympathy as seeing a asshole kid raised by asshole parents, sure it sucks that he was raised to be a jackass but he's still a jackass and I'm going to hate him all the same
 

DragonSJG

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Like i feel somewhat sorry for Dabi since his shit backstory but the way the flashback presented itself. Dabi was always a bit messed up in the head whose worse traits only got increased thanks to what Endeavour did. Unlike Shigaraki who seemed to be a nice person before his fall - Dabi already had some of his worst traits but what happened to him amplified them.
He was not messed up normally Endeavor drilled it into his head
 

alexi52

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so if all of Class A is there then we could have traitor confirmation during this fight, once more Hitmen show up then its clear it someone from Class A
 

caliph95

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Maybe it's just me but it seemed to be that there was always some darkness/ambition in Dabi already and Endeavour's training amplified it.
Dabi probably would have just become a Bakugo at worst if he was raised properly or given the support he needed
Endeavor actions made Dabi worse than he would have been
Dabi was a troubled kid but basically abandoning him and not even trying to not make him feel like a failure made him spiral
 

TheGamingNewsGuy

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Dabi probably would have just become a Bakugo at worst if he was raised properly or given the support he needed
Endeavor actions made Dabi worse than he would have been
Yeah. I agree with that if Dabi grew up normally he would probalby be more like Bakugo then anyone else.

Also Bakugou's face when he is sarcastic clapping
 

caliph95

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Not saying that Dabi kills are Endeavor fault necessarily unless you want to be reductive just that Endeavor was a shitty dad and gave up on him
 

Poodlestrike

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I was a little skeptical of the reorder to begin with, but I think that between it and them spending nearly half of the season that it's clear that they'd prefer to minimize the MVA arc to the greatest extent possible. They blew through the Pro Hero arc last season too, so I'm inclined to agree with the theory that the production sees class 1-A as the only real selling point and will move aggressively to cut down on any story beats not featuring them. War arc is probably gonna be a mess.

Fortunately, I was always on team #readthemanga, because the source material is almost always better.
 

Nelo Ice

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I wish any of my friends and family read the manga for well any anime. They're all anime only watchers and are missing out on the good shit. I can't say a word about MVA or anything happening now :(. I really wanna see anime only reactions to MVA too.
 

NSESN

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I just noticed, we might never see the detnerat commercial or redestro killing that employee
 

Roliq

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Man that would suck, it was great seeing the whiplash from the dumb commercial to him killing his assistant in cold blood after he insulted the MLA and then being sad about "being forced" to do it

Edit: oh yeah i forgot that because the anime changed it the scene is ruined as we will now know that ReDestro is a villain, also yes the stakes are ruined when we know they are fine
 
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caliph95

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The whole arc is already off anyways since it starts with narration saying it's the end for the LoV and it has multiple fake out deaths for Toga(who we see next episode)
Ill wait and hope the previews are bullshit but i wouldn't have revealed any of the leaders early so then you can at least pretend the Hori would get rid of the LoV and some stakes

otherwise there's no point to making it a mystery
 

NSESN

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I mean even if the anime had a perfect adaptation i would still be team manga just for the art
 

RochHoch

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It's wild to me that the moment Horikoshi veers his story away from being all about Class 1A for a bit, the production committee or whoever can turn around and say "no, fuck that arc, we don't like that"

Like, Oda benched all of the non-Luffy Straw Hats for quite a while with Amazon Lily/Impel Down/Marineford and Toei didn't throw a fit and start changing shit (other than adding some filler, but that was gonna happen either way). It just seems like a shitty thing to do to Horikoshi. He wrote the story that way for a reason, and they're fucking it up because they must think they know better.
 

Lotus

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Neither is JJK
and hopefully csm too 🤞🤞

Eh I wouldn't put them on the same level, while JJK's anime is better so far, I don't feel like I played myself by reading the source material, it has a real grit to it that I appreciate

As for Chainsaw Man, definitely not. Even if the anime adaptation is godtier, Chainsaw Man has a lot of godly paneling that provides a unique experience the anime isn't always going to be able to properly match.
 

caliph95

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Eh I wouldn't put them on the same level, while JJK's anime is better so far, I don't feel like I played myself by reading the source material, it has a real grit to it that I appreciate

As for Chainsaw Man, definitely not. Even if the anime adaptation is godtier, Chainsaw Man has a lot of godly paneling that provides a unique experience the anime isn't always going to be able to properly match.
I have no idea how they will adapt some of the demon powers

Some of them only really makes or look cool because of the comic format Like the demon hand that would come out side the panel and flick his finger at the butt of the sword to add momentum
 

Lotus

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I have no idea how they will adapt some of the demon powers

Some of them only really makes or look cool because of the comic format Like the demon hand that would come out side the panel and flick his finger at the butt of the sword to add momentum

Yep exactly, the Chainsaw Man manga has a bunch of moments that make full use of its medium
 

BassForever

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I think people need to relax about the anime adaptation and the changing of arc orders until this season/the series is over. I know we're all still recovering from the tragedy that was TPN s2, but nightmares like that aren't super common.
 

caliph95

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Was TPN s2 that bad?
From what i heard (read a chunk of the manga including the arc they skipped)
They skipped a very popular arc and excised a very popular character and compressed the material they do have as a result then so shit happens all of a sudden with the time needed and confusing and rushed as a result because new characters appear who thr heroes known but you haven't seen the events and that popular character they skipped was relagated to a note
Imagine if MHA s2 cut Gran Torino, then skipped the Stain arc, then jumped to the war arc where Shigaraki reveals he got all that power to betray A4O and help the heroes beat him.

That's the equivalent of what TPN s2 did.

Plus the climax ended in a sideshow
 

BassForever

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From what i heard (read a chunk of the manga including the arc they skipped)
They skipped a very popular arc and excised a very popular character as a result then so shit happens all of a sudden with the time needed


Plus the climax ended in a sideshow

That was just the cherry on top of the shit sundae.
 

BassForever

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It was a popular manga what happened

There is speculation that due to the manga being over, the plan was for a rewritten s2 anime to skip content and set up for a TPN movie that would finish the story. However the anime did so poorly that said film became a slide show in the final episode. Also the author of TPN kept adding in new bonus chapters to retcon or try to explain some of the weaker parts of the story, so some think the idea to change s2 was the author George Lucasing his own story.

While we'll probably never get the full "what the hfil happened", it's clear something went wrong behind the scenes even just looking at the first half and second half of s2 of TPN.

Also fun fact, TPN s2 has one of the major antagonist change sides with a Batman v Super esque "Martha" twist.
 

Tace

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It's wild to me that the moment Horikoshi veers his story away from being all about Class 1A for a bit, the production committee or whoever can turn around and say "no, fuck that arc, we don't like that"

Like, Oda benched all of the non-Luffy Straw Hats for quite a while with Amazon Lily/Impel Down/Marineford and Toei didn't throw a fit and start changing shit (other than adding some filler, but that was gonna happen either way). It just seems like a shitty thing to do to Horikoshi. He wrote the story that way for a reason, and they're fucking it up because they must think they know better.
Presumably Hori approved the decision but who knows how things went down
 

NotLiquid

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Oct 25, 2017
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Don't think Deku is losing this fight despite his weakened state. It feels more thematically appropriate for him to finally beat Bakugo but realize he's lost his way in the process.

He's probably going to have an epiphany moment once he's taken them down I reckon, since 1-A is probably not going to convince him by beating him up.
 

NSESN

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this chapter is so good
deku vs class a aside, I love how Shoto confronted endeavor for him not keeping up his promise
i also like how it gave all the 4 closest to deku some insight, iida, shoto, bakugo and ochako
 
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