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My friend just got swatted during a BFV session (UK)
- Thread starter Pankratous
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See even in Germany it's like that, because EVERYONE leaves their keys usually on a small shelf near the door. Often times you have multiple keys and don't throw them around your house like a frisbee. You walk in and leave the key right on the shelf. If you can't find the key, which you used not too long ago to enter your own house then others would probably think you're demented. I'm not saying it's not possible but it's extremely rare and it personally only happened once to me which took me 2 minutes to find my keys. I think it's incredibly unlikely to have your home burning down and losing your key inside on the same day, to the point where it's more likely to trip over your shoe laces and break your neck. That's the real danger no one talks about.
So OP's friend just locked the door from the inside with a key while being at home and because of that he couldn't open the door without unlocking with a key!?
That's a little different and exactly as our doors here work. Buy you still can open a door from the inside without a key, while you can't open the door from the outside without a key.
Actually, I'm not joking. Here are my keys:
Though it sounds like maybe the one on the left is actually a fire brigade key. Not really sure what kind of protection my deadbolt is giving me if it's just a generic key...
Making this about "Americans vs. the world" is not accurate. This thread is more like "UK vs the world"
The world functions?? Oh no no. The world is laughing at your doors.
It's been explained multiple times but American (and apparently Australian) locks are keyless on the interior. They only require a key to operate from the exterior, but inside the house you can lock and unlock with the flip of a latch.
You get knob locks:
and/or deadbolts:
I lived in the UK for 13 years, on college dorms, share houses, flats, some being pretty old, some being refurbished and some being fairly new, and there were always these types of locks both for front doors in normal houses or flats houses. I never saw this system of needing to unlock the door with a key inside unless it was like a second or third lock, on top of the main lock, but those were rarely used.
Are you reading the thread? It's not just Americans.
Are you new to reading threads?
I'm seeing confusion both ways. People asking Americans how they lock the door. No need to single one group out.
I'm now imagining a diabolical thief squirting oil in a line between the key stand by the door, and the rest of the hallway, and then lighting it, blocking the victim's escape.
"hehe, you're trapped now, ya hear? Now I'm gonna leave by this here door, and there ain't nothing you can do about it, see?"
"Damnit...curse my British home! I can see my keys beyond the line of fire, just out of reach!"
"hehe, it was your door that did it. Lock on both sides, see? Shoulda had an American door. Always buy American!"
*The thief flees the house*
Go ask spanish people, or belgians, or french, etc. how their doors lock then.
The person I was replying to was apparently so confused by Americans not requiring the insertion of a key to leave their house that they thought the country as a whole had front doors incapable of locking. Thanks for the input, but it stands in stark contrast with basically the thing that started this whole mess.
Standard response officers aren't armed, but we do have a firearms unit who would go to firearm calls.
Every person's house I've been in the UK has a locking system from inside.
I'm from Jersey so it's basically the same.
I've never been to a place where you need a key from the inside in my life, it does seem a bit odd but like people have said those that do have it nearby permanently, rather than in a place that might get lost, forgotten etc.
Yes they are, when they're required to be.
I'm in the US. The only time I have ever seen a door that needed the key to be locked inside was at my uncles old ass 150 year old house.
A key is not going to stop breaking through a French door
They're literally covered in windows
Uk here, and yep. Both doors need to be locked/unlocked from inside. Also the handle has to be pulled up. Took a while to teach my last lodger.
All the houses in my neighbourhood are 300 years old or more. Eternal damp.
All the houses in my neighbourhood are 300 years old or more. Eternal damp.
So just to summarize...
Why do you need a key to unlock your door from the inside?
"Because we have windows on our doors."
That seems like a poor design decision, just like needing a key to unlock your door from the inside. What if you misplace your keys?
"Most people leave their keys in or around the door."
Ok, so what about the windows on the door?
"Most doors don't have windows here!"
Ok... so what makes the door more secure when it requires a key to open it from the inside?
"Stupid americans don't understand! Always trying to belittle us!"
Okay. I guess I'll just take your advice and jump out of my second story window in case of a fire. It's not that hard.
Why do you need a key to unlock your door from the inside?
"Because we have windows on our doors."
That seems like a poor design decision, just like needing a key to unlock your door from the inside. What if you misplace your keys?
"Most people leave their keys in or around the door."
Ok, so what about the windows on the door?
"Most doors don't have windows here!"
Ok... so what makes the door more secure when it requires a key to open it from the inside?
"Stupid americans don't understand! Always trying to belittle us!"
Okay. I guess I'll just take your advice and jump out of my second story window in case of a fire. It's not that hard.
Same thing in Spain. I'm actually shocked this is seen as something weird outside of Europe.
Probably an armed response unit. Not unusual if there is reports of a shooting.
Go ask Australians, Mexicans, Canadians, and Italians how their doors lock.
I don't see how that has anything to do with me denying it was "UK vs the world".
Some doors do have windows near the lock, so it makes sense. Just because they say most doors don't, doesn't negate those that do.
I am American and grew up in a house were there was a key lock in a door with windows. The key was placed nearby and easily accessible to those inside. Not once did it wander off.
Also, smashing a window pane and unlocking a door is a whole different ballgame than smashing a window and climbing through. (this isn't pointed at you Loss)
Has more to do with your insinuating that it is the US vs. the world. Sorry but you are well well within the minority on this one. The rest of the world updated their fire and building codes back in the 1800s.
lmao
Boy, this might be the best thread derail of the year.
so can we talk about how the heck your friend got swatted without streaming and being a pretty private person?
Boy, this might be the best thread derail of the year.
so can we talk about how the heck your friend got swatted without streaming and being a pretty private person?
You lock your door from the inside and then leave it on a hook/small table nearby so it's there when you need it. It's not hard to understand.
Actually, I'm not joking. Here are my keys:
Though it sounds like maybe the one on the left is actually a fire brigade key. Not really sure what kind of protection my deadbolt is giving me if it's just a generic key...
The initial pic you posted was a Fire Brigade key.
You have communal front door which requires fob entry. And then the other key for your personal front door, so you're fine.
I work in housing and you have exactly one of the fobs used at a property I manage, haha. Hope you don't live in Edgware!
Can't believe what this thread has turned into, from swatting to a discussion about doorlocks and keys. x.x
I grew up with the standard UK door lock where you need a key to lock it from the inside. never had an issue.
In my flat now, you don't need a key to lock it from the inside but I still have my key near the door anyway (so I can grab it when I go out) so even if we needed a key to lock it from the inside, it wouldn't cause me any issue.
People acting like this is some big deal is laughable to me tbh. Even more so that somehow this thread about a very serious issue was derailed so very quickly on page 1.
I grew up with the standard UK door lock where you need a key to lock it from the inside. never had an issue.
In my flat now, you don't need a key to lock it from the inside but I still have my key near the door anyway (so I can grab it when I go out) so even if we needed a key to lock it from the inside, it wouldn't cause me any issue.
People acting like this is some big deal is laughable to me tbh. Even more so that somehow this thread about a very serious issue was derailed so very quickly on page 1.
Well you haven't been in Finland then. We don't have to lock our doors with keys from the inside.