If Federation Force had Sylux we should be expecting him in MP4. Tanabe talked about wanting him in future games and Federation Force was 2016. Probably the same time MP4 started development.
I wonder if they'll even bother with the sub header.
As for Ridley, I'm not super sure him or Silux will play very substantial roles.
I've got the feeling after Mario Odyssey, and especially Zelda BotW that Prime 4 is going to be a soft reboot for the series.
Honestly it would be better to do away with a bunch of the sillier stuff weighing the narrative down, and take a new approach to story telling.
Metroid has always been strongly influenced by Alien, and after the amazing Alien Isolation I've found myself being curious if Nintendo would make the scope of the game smaller, the narrative more focused, mature, and possibly embrace the tones of horror that have slowly slipped away from the series.
Long story short, I've got a feeling this isn't going to be your big brother's Metroid Prime. So don't get your hopes too high to see a direct continuation of stuff from MP3. As I'm guessing we are going to be seeing something totally different this time around.
That link was 2015, it's 2019 in a few weeks. So it was over 3 years ago.This was not even 3 years ago. You realize Kensuke Tanabe is leading the Prime 4 project and Sylux is his love child?
If Federation Force had Sylux we should be expecting him in MP4. Tanabe talked about wanting him in future games and Federation Force was 2016. Probably the same time MP4 started development.
Metroid Other Prime: Federation Force 2 Pinball, featuring Samus from Super Smash Brothers Ultimatewhat'll be the final name?
1) Metroid Prime 4
2) Metroid Prime 4: Evolution
3) Metroid Prime Eternal
4) Metroid Prime for Nintendo Switch
5) Metroid Prime 4: Federation Force 2
Metroid Prime Returnswhat'll be the final name?
1) Metroid Prime 4
2) Metroid Prime 4: Evolution
3) Metroid Prime Eternal
4) Metroid Prime for Nintendo Switch
5) Metroid Prime 4: Federation Force 2
what'll be the final name?
1) Metroid Prime 4
2) Metroid Prime 4: Evolution
3) Metroid Prime Eternal
4) Metroid Prime for Nintendo Switch
5) Metroid Prime 4: Federation Force 2
I think your speculation is more of a stretch considering the years of teasing they've done for the character (it's not even on the same level as the 1 minisqule tease of Dread in Prime 3) and how Tanabe has constantly said how he'd love to do another Prime with Sylux, the project lead of Metroid Prime 4. Teasing the character at the end of a 2015 Metroid game is nowhere near past relevance.....we don't even know when actual talks of the Prime 4 project started.That link was 2015, it's 2019 in a few weeks. So it was over 3 years ago.
And I'm sure back then he had big plans for sylux, but that was when they probably thought they'd be developing internally, and when they thought people would actually like Federation Force.
I just can't see them leaning on that character. It's relevance has long past and if they are doing a semi-arid franchise reboot, you'd better believe they'll be trimming the fat.
Though they may re-imagine Sylux and make his design not horrible and give him an actual story and purpose. Who knows. I just wouldn't take 4 year old comments as an indication of what a whole new team is currently doing. That is a heck of a stretch.
Metroid Prime 4: The Federationwhat'll be the final name?
1) Metroid Prime 4
2) Metroid Prime 4: Evolution
3) Metroid Prime Eternal
4) Metroid Prime for Nintendo Switch
5) Metroid Prime 4: Federation Force 2
Yeah Tanabe also thought fans would love federation Force. And all his statements about Silux came before and during the launch of that game. After the complete failure of Federation Force, whatever ideas Tanabe had were probably canned, or at the very least scrutinized AF.I think your speculation is more of a stretch considering the years of teasing they've done for the character (it's not even on the same level as the 1 minisqule tease of Dread in Prime 3) and how Tanabe has constantly said how he'd love to do another Prime with Sylux, the project lead of Metroid Prime 4. Teasing the character at the end of a 2015 Metroid game is nowhere near past relevance.....we don't even know when actual talks of the Prime 4 project started.
Another thing is that you keep saying you think they're going to start with a blank slate but considering how much of a shit show Other M was for the franchise they're probably going to do anything but that and stick more to the roots.
I'm not saying Sylux is a 100% hard lock but pretending he's not highly likely seems silly.
Yes. Prime is his series.
There's nothing inherently wrong with Metroid Prime: Federation Force as a co-op Metroid spinoff other than it was released at the wrong time and place. The game's story beats, i.e the Sylux ending, has no bearing with the game not living up to expectations. (see Metroid Other M and its influence on the franchise after release)Yeah Tanabe also thought fans would love federation Force. And all his statements about Silux came before and during the launch of that game. After the complete failure of Federation Force, whatever ideas Tanabe had were probably canned, or at the very least scrutinized AF.
I don't know if I should take you seriously anymore after Tanabe worked on the whole Metroid Prime Trilogy from the start. You know...some of the most looked up to games of all time. A spin-off not hitting it well with fans is not tarnishing his legacy like it seems you're implying. Just like Sakamoto and Other M haven't tarnished his legacy either. (see Samus Returns)There is a very good reason why MP4 isn't being made by Next Level Games, or directed by Tanabe, and its because they just dropped the ball and someone with an actual vision and an idea of how to please fans needed to take the reigns.
Seems like you're putting your emotions in front of a better judgement. We get it, you really don't want Sylux.I know he said he wanted to make a game about Samus and Silux but I really don't think that is going to be MP4. Just my two cents on that. you are free to disagree, but the character isn't really a thing aside from one DS game and a very simply and unattractive character design. I honestly don't see anyone wanting to use his design or character for any future games.
Do you know what a producer does? He does not write, direct, or create any of the content for Metroid Prime, nor was Metroid Prime his original creation. Heck Miyamoto had more influence and input into Metroid Prime's creation than Tanabe ever had.There's nothing inherently wrong with Metroid Prime: Federation Force as a co-op Metroid spinoff other than it was released at the wrong time and place. The game's story beats, i.e the Sylux ending, has no bearing with the game not living up to expectations. (see Metroid Other M and its influence on the franchise after release)
I don't know if I should take you seriously anymore after Tanabe worked on the whole Metroid Prime Trilogy from the start. You know...some of the most looked up to games of all time. A spin-off not hitting it well with fans is not tarnishing his legacy like it seems you're implying. Just like Sakamoto and Other M haven't tarnished his legacy either. (see Samus Returns)
Seems like you're putting your emotions in front of a better judgement. We get it, you really don't want Sylux.
Why are you explaining to me what a producer does? I know the job title. I said he worked on the Trilogy if you re-read my post. Miyamoto was also a producer and inadvertently came up with the idea of visors for the game. It's not a stretch to think Tanabe had similar influence over the game judging from his impressive pedigree. Either way, Tanabe is part of Prime's legacy and he knows the series inside and out.Do you know what a producer does? He does not write, direct, or create any of the content for Metroid Prime, nor was Metroid Prime his original creation. Heck Miyamoto had more influence and input into Metroid Prime's creation than Tanabe ever had.
A producer oversees projects to make sure everyone manages their time and facilitates expenditures and the hiring of outside talent. They are not creative directors, and they do not have creative input. He may have some preferences and ideas that he shares with the dev team.
So where you got the idea that Metroid Prime was his legacy, is completely beyond me.
Agree to disagree.And Federation Force was mechanically, aesthetically, and fundamentally bad. There was nothing fun about that game, Metroid or Not, it was uninspired and terrible.
Yes I'm a fan of Metroid. And this bit is a riot considering I've been sticking to hard facts and words from the man himself, the one leading Prime 4. While you've been lamenting Sylux alongside baseless speculation.As for my emotional connection to Metroid: I don't really have one. not like you do anyway by the looks of your posts in this thread. Perhaps you wouldn't be fighting so hard if you were capable of stepping away from your deep emotional connection to the IP and objectively see its flaws and that it needs a reboot. I am actually glad you brought up emotion as I wasn't going to say anything, but because of your statement, I don't need to be so reserved.
Do you know what a producer does? He does not write, direct, or create any of the content for Metroid Prime, nor was Metroid Prime his original creation. Heck Miyamoto had more influence and input into Metroid Prime's creation than Tanabe ever had.
A producer oversees projects to make sure everyone manages their time and facilitates expenditures and the hiring of outside talent. They are not creative directors, and they do not have creative input. He may have some preferences and ideas that he shares with the dev team.
So where you got the idea that Metroid Prime was his legacy, is completely beyond me.
And Federation Force was mechanically, aesthetically, and fundamentally bad. There was nothing fun about that game, Metroid or Not, it was uninspired and terrible.
As for my emotional connection to Metroid: I don't really have one. not like you do anyway by the looks of your posts in this thread. Perhaps you wouldn't be fighting so hard if you were capable of stepping away from your deep emotional connection to the IP and objectively see its flaws and that it needs a reboot. I am actually glad you brought up emotion as I wasn't going to say anything, but because of your statement, I don't need to be so reserved.
How can I not like him, he is a non character. He literally has no presence or character t like or dislike. He just exists. He is like those cute little spiky dudes that crawl around platforms, except less recognizable than those little critters.Just say you don't like Sylux. No need to sugar coat it. You don't like him and don't want to see him then that's it. He can easily be back. Tanabe has made this known. He's the producer and he wants Sylux. Now that it's being made by a third party idk who the Director will be from Bandai.
This guy gets it.Not that it really matters, but people listed as producers in Japan, particularly with Nintendo, are not always/usually just what we would consider to be "producers". As in they tend to have a more direct creative input into the game that would overlap with the game director a bit. See Aonuma, Koizumi, Miyamoto, etc. Having said that it's probably fair to say that Tanabe has a more traditional role than others in the company based on his history.
Again though I think people are stuck on the Sylux thing, but Federation Force was a disaster for the franchise and Nintendo, so it would not surprise me at all if Tanabe's creativr input on the series has been scrapped.
This is not a good idea. It bothers me so much. GoW shouldn't have even been called that because it's a direct sequel to the Greek saga lolI think they should have just called it metroid and have it be more like a reboot, like god of war
Also, having motion controls would give a great advantage to the game, given how well it works on other games.
jeezAnd assuming it's actually an HD remaster and not just an upscaled port I think that would be very fair.
It's mainly because he's emblematic of the complete downfall of Metroid. He essentially represents everything that has gone wrong with the series. Meanwhile he has no positive attributes that he brings to the table, so even though he's an empty nobody he still inspires dread among fans.All this arguing about a character who was in one game, and cameoed in two others via hidden scenes which most players wouldn't even see without online videos. Him being in or out of a game isn't a deciding factor, despite Metroid enthusiasts' pickiness.
A senior Nintendo figure like Tanabe isn't going to be kicked off of one of his series stewardships because of a badly-performing game.
Yuppers