My condolences to Kamala. Went from a franchise with two Eisner Award winning series to only one.
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Ms. Marvel Drops Major MCU Reveal in Finale Episode (Spoilers)(MAJOR Spoilers)
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I feel like they've already been hinting that Wanda has been a mutant this whole time. In Wandavision, it's implied that she had innate magical abilities even before being exposed to the Mind Stone.
Nature is healing 😌
As it should be!
I seriously can't believe I've seen comic book fans on Twitter seething about this like Feige just pulled off some big horrific war crime against Inhumanity.
As it should be!
I seriously can't believe I've seen comic book fans on Twitter seething about this like Feige just pulled off some big horrific war crime against Inhumanity.
Probably best not to think about it, but
1) is Kamran even human at all, or was he born of two Clandestines… perhaps his dad is no longer with the group.
2) If Kamala's mom and grandmother don't express any powers from the bangle, then perhaps there IS something about Kamala's genetics that causes that distinction.
X-Men with more comedy will be a fantastic thing to see after so many years of the Fox films.
I'm just messing around. I dug the shit out of him. From the costume to Mount's limited acting - which was better in that minute than the shit he got on the show.
I like to think that their use of the X-Men cartoon theme is a sign of what to expect with their X-Men movie.
Give me them colorful costumes.
Give me them colorful costumes.
And according to the leaks we have Namor next… boy imagine that teamup XD
Considering they are using the X-Men 97 theme and it's explicitly called that in the credits, I would not be surprised if the new animated series is a continuation of the original series while also being a bridge and ends with the original animated series X-Men moving over to the MCU universe so that we have new mutants like Kamala and the old ones too
They walked back the Djinn stuff as soon as it was introduced. It seems like it was meant to be a red herring that the Muslim community could pick up on immediately, or at least that's what those who know more on the subject mentioned.
I highly doubt that, especially when they already invoked that series with 838 Xavier in MoM. Ms. Marvel made it clear that mutants will be native to the main MCU with no multiverse shenanigans involved.
The interesting thing is, the subtitles for MoM also refer to the jingle that plays during Xavier's entrance as the X-Men '97 theme.
I was marking out so hard at hearing mutation that I missed it too. lol
What if the connection with the Clan Destine and the Noor Dimension was that Noor energy triggers latent mutations?
We heard Janet Van Dyne allude to how she's been changed by the Quantum Realm through adaptation and evolution in Ant-Man and the Wasp. People felt like her Quantum powers were a mutation, but that was before the Fox had been finalized.
The Noor Dimension likely isn't the Quantum Realm, but I could maybe see Marvel doing a thing where the energy is Cosmic Magnetic Background Radiation, which is the same energy from the Big Bang, the same energy emitted from the Infinity Stones, and the same energy that gave Monica her powers. Maybe it can mutate regular people to give them superpowers and even trigger mutations in people with an X-gene.
Just a theory since Kamran seemed to also have powers that were made of Noor energy. I just think that there is something more to the connection between the Clan Destine and the Noor than what we got that has broader applications than just a way to get from point A to B with Kamala as a solution for the stretching CGi, connection to Carol Danvers, and giving Kamala an inherent power not connected to the bangle (that isn't being Inhuman). Like it is all those things, but even if they wanted to go all the other directions with the bangle and mutant powers, they didn't have to go the Noor Dimension angle, especially since it's only a side story connected to the Clan Destine that barely gets explored. They could have had the bangle energy come from anywhere.
We heard Janet Van Dyne allude to how she's been changed by the Quantum Realm through adaptation and evolution in Ant-Man and the Wasp. People felt like her Quantum powers were a mutation, but that was before the Fox had been finalized.
The Noor Dimension likely isn't the Quantum Realm, but I could maybe see Marvel doing a thing where the energy is Cosmic Magnetic Background Radiation, which is the same energy from the Big Bang, the same energy emitted from the Infinity Stones, and the same energy that gave Monica her powers. Maybe it can mutate regular people to give them superpowers and even trigger mutations in people with an X-gene.
Just a theory since Kamran seemed to also have powers that were made of Noor energy. I just think that there is something more to the connection between the Clan Destine and the Noor than what we got that has broader applications than just a way to get from point A to B with Kamala as a solution for the stretching CGi, connection to Carol Danvers, and giving Kamala an inherent power not connected to the bangle (that isn't being Inhuman). Like it is all those things, but even if they wanted to go all the other directions with the bangle and mutant powers, they didn't have to go the Noor Dimension angle, especially since it's only a side story connected to the Clan Destine that barely gets explored. They could have had the bangle energy come from anywhere.
It'll be funny if the bangle radiation unlocked her powers, then later we find the xmen have a radiation rock that gave them powers too. like some kind of new terrigen mist. Lockjaw is actually just Morph.
I immediately that of that after the finale.
I was wondering what they could add to the new series that would tie to the MCU, since we've already got versions of many Marvel heroes in the show and it's still an X-Men-centric show that will exist in the multiverse as part of the MCU, but adding Kamala, other heroes that exist in the MCU (or variants that are closer to the MCU version), and just pulling from more recent X-Men stories from the comics it does seem like there is still lots of new territory to explore there.
It seems like a good place to test out ideas they may use in the MCU proper, since we've seen that a lot in the games and TV shows for other Marvel properties, but as far as I know, the X-Men may not have had an outlet for that, especially not any time under Perlmutter.
I think they'll do a secret wars reboot when the actors are too old. Then the rebooted universe will have original avengers, xmen/mutants and FF exist at the same time with new actors without having to do origin stories.
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I had that idea, like they basically end up combining the Inhumans and mutants, or at least there is a natural triggering of the X-gene in humans through age, an artifical radiation trigger that might force a latent mutation, and then maybe a mutation that can even happen in normal humans. It kind of explains Carol or Monica getting their powers or Wanda and Pietro getting powers from an Infinity Stone, like some people simply die while others mutate and get powers through their mutation augmented by the cosmic radiation.
There was definitely something weird about the Clan Destine trying to get back into their dimension as the Veil opened and the energy killed them. People remarked how it looked reminiscent to how Agents of SHIELD portrayed terrigenesis. I guess it could be explained that the Veil is what killed them, but there was so little explanation that it almost seems like Noor energy is what killed them and gave Kamran his powers.
I'm not really sure what to make of it all, but maybe we find out more of Kamala's story in The Marvels, at least with the bangle.
Anything like that would be very long time from now. Like, not even on any potential roadmap right now.
‘Ms. Marvel’: What Kamala Khan’s DNA Reveals About Her Genetics
“It's like her wildest dream already came true over the show, but then we just gave her one more bit of the dream.”
Iman talking about the Finale
This is awesome, I dropped of Ms Marvel hard after the first episode. Glad to see its happening!
I kinda like the idea the first confirmed mutant is loved and supported by her friends and family and supported in her life. It'll make what's to come and the contrast all the more heartbreaking for the others.
I hope we get to see some of the behind the scenes for this moment in the Assembled doc.‘Ms. Marvel’: What Kamala Khan’s DNA Reveals About Her Genetics
“It's like her wildest dream already came true over the show, but then we just gave her one more bit of the dream.”www.marvel.com
Iman talking about the Finale
I also wonder if its a hint that it'll tie into X-Men 97 in some capacity. I just read that apparently that show isn't going to be within the MCU, but I'm positive there'll be some multiverse shenanigans to tie things in. There's no way they're doing a revival just for the sake of doing it.
Edit: just realised that the end credits name the song as "X-Men 97 Theme" so yeah, that show is going to tie into the MCU too.
I figure it's just a way to introduce newer audiences to the concept of the X-Men so they don't have to cram everyone's origins into one movie, but it's not actually connected.
I wasn't expecting them to just... fart out the riff like that. That's actually really hilarious.
"Yes we're talking about THAT kind of mutation, you can all shut up now!"
"Yes we're talking about THAT kind of mutation, you can all shut up now!"
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I just keep thinking about how much Ike Perlmutter has to be absolutely SEETHING over this lmao. I bet he had grand plans a long time ago to introduce Kamala and make the Inhumans big
I don't mind the change, but I was hoping she'd be an Inhuman just to open the door to circling back to them in a good way. They need to wash off the stench of whatever that show was. Lol, but this is still great
No way. It would've been a HUGE Black Bolt push.
After all "women don't sell"
Hell we can even use a remix of Be a Star for her first appearance.Don't know why y'all talking about Rogue, this will be the villain in Marvels
How much have you watched? Just remember that all the money went into the first two episodes because those were released in IMAX theatres as one release. They then added a bit of time when it was split into two episodes when it aired on ABC. The rest of the show gets worse.
Don't underestimate them they've already said mutation could still refer to Inhumans and the theme riff is just a red herring
I WISH I was making that up because I don't get why either.
A poster in the OT this morning. Not Marvel or anyone connected to them. lol
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My favorite storylines:
Gorgon-whose power is superhuman strength is defeated by a wave at the beach.
Karnak-whose has unparalled intellect-spends an entire episode walking around a mountain in a circle because he got lost.
Black Bolt-the Celestial Messiah, The Midnight King, one of the most powerful beings in creation is defeated by the Honolulu PD.
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