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Ms. Marvel Drops Major MCU Reveal in Finale Episode (Spoilers)(MAJOR Spoilers)
- Thread starter Dalek
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Ms Marvel is trending like never before on Twitter
People are eating that jingle up
It's like Feige told Pearlmutter, "no, more mutants."
(Apologies if someone already made that joke.)
(Apologies if someone already made that joke.)
The bangle started "Transmiting" like the Ten Rings did before the Swap
That's totally a set up for The Marvels or another project. Gotta weave that web.
That video proves that the 90s X-Men theme lives and dies on the electric guitar. A 100% orchestral version just doesn't have the same punch.
People were pretty excited in the actual OT last night from the posts I saw. I am one of those bubble people that was like "that was a cute reference" when the modified theme played but the whole "mutants are a thing" was kind of 🤷♂️ for me cuz we already got Prof. X in Dr. Strange no?
The actual episode also didn't do that much for me. Didn't really like anything involving the clandestines on this show, was here for the local NJ/HS/neighborhood shenanigans. My only Ms. Marvel knowledge is from playing the Avengers game though so I was never really hyped about this character going into the show or seeing her powers. The actress is adorbs though.
Yeah that pretty much signs the death warrant for Inhumans being relevant in any significant way for a while.
I'm guessing Wanda is going to be retconned into being Mutant as well, though probably without the Magneto connection.
I'm guessing Wanda is going to be retconned into being Mutant as well, though probably without the Magneto connection.
Nah that was the perfect way to tease us about the floodgates that are about to open, especially given the context of this being a show based on a character that's originally an Inhuman in the comics
That's from the multiverse though, irrelevant to our main universe as nothing about that movie hinted that we'd get mutants through multiverse shenanigans
I mean, maybe we still will, but Dr. Strange didn't give fans the teases they were looking for in that regard
I imagine the X-Men theme would've hit a bit harder had they not just used it in Doctor Strange.
NGL I kinda liked Kamala as an Inhuman. The further away she is from the X-Universe the better IMO. Marvel has this awful habit of plunging anyone called a mutant into all that X-drama.
You seem pretty indignant, so I'm not sure I'm going to convince you.
I think it's certainly possible that AoS gets ignored since it's come to a good conclusion and we are way past a time where SHIELD was relevant in the MCU and even in the show all the spy stuff had gone by the wayside, IIRC. That being said, it was one of the most beloved and longest running Marvel Television series, so I wouldn't count it out and I know people want to see Chloe Bennet's Quake, Gabriel Luna's Ghost Rider, and Coulson enter the MCU proper in some fashion.
I could go the Netflix route, but they won't because they actually directly acknowledged canon events in the MCU and had their own significant impact of events. They could ignore it, but just like the Inhumans or Fox X-Men, they won't because they all come with their own form of baggage that can't really be ignored. Netflix stuff can carefully, but easily be sidestepped because it's all street level an ultimately inconsequential beyond the shows' own sphere of influence.
AoS was dealing with world-ending alternate timelines already. There is no "overcomplicating" things because it is within their wheelhouse. Everything from the Darkhold to the Kree to L.M.D.'s to Inhumans to time travel were within their wheelhouse. In fact, if you think about it, the entire show has been a giant "What If?": What if Phil Coulson actually survived being killed by Loki? What if SHIELD survived HYDRA's takeover?
The show already teed itself up for integrating with SWORD so they can play things however they like if they choose to bring it back, including just having the characters appear in Secret Invasion, but unlike other things where they have to make a plausible reason for why Deadpool would even know about the multiverse, yet decide to leave behind his own universe for a new one, the AoS team would totally know and could totally integrate that plot smoothly without any friction or convolution. It's less about why they'd do it and more of why not since it could only give them more to work with from a storytelling perspective.
Oh man, first they make Wanda and Pietro not a mutant, now Miss Marvel IS a mutant. Wonder if that's going to impact the comics in any way...
Oh yeah, Quake is totally going to end up as a Mutant too if and when she gets out of AoS jail.
The difficulty is that the Avengers are already in their "Next Generation" phase, so in the main universe it wouldn't be a clash of the A-Listers from both teams. That said, it is something they're 100% going to do because the words "Avengers vs X-Men" on the marquee makes a billion dollars on its own regardless of the movie itself.
What I could see them doing, if the Multiverse arc is still running when they get to it, is have the X-Men travel to one of those anti-mutant dystopia timelines that are common in the comics, where the Avengers are mutant hunting inquisitors. That ways, they could have variants of people like Steve Rogers and Tony Stark on the team. (Maybe Nimrod is a variant of Vision?)
They also brutally executed Reed, Maria, Peggy, and Charles, but we know Charles will eventually return (in X-Men 97), Reed will return in the Fantastic Four, and an alternate version of Captain Carter is a main reoccuring character in What If?
I don't think he meant it as a personal attack. He wouldn't have even referenced the character if their goal was to let the Inhumans rot away in obscurity.
Wait Bruno stated in like the first or second episode that her powers did not come from the bracelet but were unlocked by it. He said the powers were coming from her.
Also, what are the Jinn then if she's a mutant?
Eh Karnak is cool on paper but in execution other than one specific run he usually just amounts to a get out of jail free card.
I don't think I phrased that right. And your right. As for Clan Destine I think it was more to bring Kamran in while sidestepping inhumans. It was pretty stupid. Other dimensional beings or something, but that doesn't preclude mutation, in the 616 comics lots f species and races have mutants, Namor for instance, broo of the brood for another.
EDIT: There we're skrull mutants too, not even mentioning Shatterstar.
Yes that was a different time when they were technically cool with each other(at that point Rogue no longer had Carol's powers, and Rogue is always better when she doesn't)
The story your thinking of was when Staten Island was taken over and there was a time difference between when she showed up and when her allies showed up.
Rogue even showed up and used her upgraded powers that let her absorb life energy from a distance. (which was always stupid and tied to the X-Men movie.)
I meant to post a random X-Men vs. Fantastic Four cover 'cause I thought having the noobs clash might be something that happens, but man oh man did I not expect what I found.
It's like Superdickery, only specifically aimed at Franklin Richards
Reed's troll face is hilarious here. Oh, and Franklin Richards is mourning his dead mom's corpse.
Note: This will not be the first time this happens.
Franklin Richards mourning his dead mom AND dad. Throw another corpse onto the pile!
Wolverine is the best there is at what he does, and what he does ain't grief counseling.
Franklin's not mourning his dead parents anymore, but that's only 'cause he's running for his life. Also included: dead Johnny and Ben. Two more corpses for the pile! BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKRULLS FOR THE SKRULL THRONE!
Franklin finally stops running and finds peace with the zombified corpses of his beloved family behind him while the X-Men are...impaled on trees or something? A happy ending after all.
There's way too much story potential for her not to be Magneto's kid, plus Elizabeth Olson has gone on record saying she wants that to be the case. At one point Magneto was suppose to be in MoM and it was gonna get confirmed there
I can't find a pic of it because Google image search is trying to sell me NM copies of Inhumans #4 instead…
But this reminds me of the panel in the Jenkins/Lee Inhumans where the imposters are dressing like the Inhumans because they're cool now.
And the guy with the face paint, high as fuck, is like "bro..Karnak".
I remember that issue! That's exactly it.
Don't know why y'all talking about Rogue, this will be the villain in Marvels
Are they still pushing her as the Anti-Carol?
He hasn't been around in a minute i think. But Kamala is the Anti-Carol, likable and engaging are the direct oppopsite of Carol
Like you said. The X-Men will have always been there, and the MCU never focused on them before.
You're out of line, but right.
But yeah, I just realized I haven't thought of Star for like three years, which apparently was when the limited series was.
That's all I've ever wanted. Just give us a Kamala/Kitty/Jubilee/Armor who can be the new viewer proxy, welcome to the X-men, hope you survived the experience, etc.
Considering what happened with Spidey's origin I could see is getting that.
Feige fucking knows we know who they are.
A lot of characters are likely going to be retconned and get their Ancestory kits! I'm fine with this, but also fine if they leave Wanda as non Mutant. But this will probably be part of the picture; what _defines_ being a mutant, it may impact more characters/relationships than others. Looking forward to the next few years (again).
Makes me sad that they're doing Inhumans dirty like that after the dope ass return of Black Bolt.
If they want to keep it true to Islamic perspective, they'll be like ghosts/another realm, but born of smokeless fire (simplified). But depends how far they wanna go without eventually offended Muslims, some of whom were offended just from this show existing in the first place.
I mean, AoS is almost certainly never being revived. If anything happens, it'll be a character showing up in something. Likely Quake or Ghost Rider. Maybe May or Mockingbird.
And if that's the case, again, there's no need to tie it to the multiverse. The problem with this, as was the problem with tying the Netflix shows to the multiverse, is that it would be pointless and a waste of time to write that into a story when the characters already exist.
Like, if Quake shows up in something, they're not going to be referencing the events of season 5, episode 4 of AoS. And they aren't going to have her pop out of a wormhole and say, "Hey. I'm from another universe." Much like Daredevil and Fisk, she'll simply... show up.
Trying to tie it to the multiverse automatically makes things more convoluted than they need to be. There's simply no point.
Still an on-screen proper MCU Black Bolt though. Reed fucked him over.
