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MS and Sony update/clarify BC status for next-gen consoles
- Thread starter orochi91
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To be fair, these clarifications by MS and Sony were just released.
This thread is to hopefully clear these misconceptions.
Launch is still ways off and the big events for both MS and Sony are still ahead. After the real reveal events is when the marketing and reportage will truly kick off and before those I don't know if the audience is really that widespread.
All this dishonest posting from some people reminds me an advice once I got from a teacher: "Reading is hard, for those that doesn't like what they're reading"
Same reason they gave pretty stern warnings that name changes could cause serious issues, but in the end didn't. You can't test for everything in a development environment. There are untestable variables in an end user environment and giving definitive statements both leaves them legally vulnerable to lawsuits for false advertising and is just uncouth.
To be honest, I'm not sure why anyone who was actually paying attention thought the result of last-gen back compat would be dramatically different - they will obviously never explicitly say 100% compatibility but it was always incredibly likely it would be almost entirely so by the end of it all, the only reason this discussion has continued to go on is because Sony's approach to talking about the PS5 weirdly releasing only morsels of information at a time confuses people who don't know any better, like mainstream news outlets and people who only read headlines.
Microsoft is smart. They initially said all Xbox One games. Then slightly amended that when pressed.
Now console warrior weirdos are gonna run with the fud that all Xbone games BC while only a small fraction of PS4 are BC
Now console warrior weirdos are gonna run with the fud that all Xbone games BC while only a small fraction of PS4 are BC
Wait, some people were really thinking that they put games on XBL/PSN without testing, "as is", just because they made emulator?
Emulation is always tricky, and consoles are not PCs, any error/crash will be unacceptable. Of course they need to test the whole library. And there's possibility that some games even won't work properly on next-gen hardware.
Emulation is always tricky, and consoles are not PCs, any error/crash will be unacceptable. Of course they need to test the whole library. And there's possibility that some games even won't work properly on next-gen hardware.
The problem is even in this own thread you still see people saying "so hundreds vs thousands, X wins".
I highly recommend you point people to this thread if they spout that talking point again.
If video games are dumb then what does that make video gamers?
It's going to be funny seeing the fanboys spin them both pretty much saying the same thing into a good and bad. Already off to a good start too.
The only thing you can kinda reach for is MS are further along with their testing, but that's not too surprising.
The only thing you can kinda reach for is MS are further along with their testing, but that's not too surprising.
Well, how about that its their aim to have 4000+ games playable at launch. So far they've just expressed its their aim to have 4000+ games playable, but never said "at launch".
It was the number at launch that was the issue, and honestly this statement doesn't really do anything to address that and just reinforces that they want to have a majority of PS4 games playable on PS5 which we already knew.
Listen just laugh. This is absolutely close to the funniest and pathetic thing I've seen people argue over now. I'm laughing at just how absurd this is.
Sony has some work cut out for them because MS has proven themselves in the BP realm this gen. Legally of course they aren't going to say "all". As someone with both consoles it's not hard to compare both company's recent history with backwards compatibility. Xbox 360 games I can throw in my Xbone and play are usually delegated to PSNow on my PS4. I hope Sony tries to implement ps1-3 in the future but the cynic in me thinks they don't want to risk that sweet PSNow revenue.
People wonder why they have to be cagey with their language when we have threads like this.
We have people who want these companies to explicitly state that ALL games and 100% of them will work guaranteed.
can you tell us if dice's older games will work at launch on both consoles ;)
4000+ is thousands, not hundreds. Math is not that hard.
This whole discussion feels too nitpicky for me. Everyone hanging on a word to try and squeeze out an advantage.
Sony said overwhelming majority of 4000, which mean thousands. MS said thousands. Seems like the same damn statement from both sides to me.
Hanging on the "at launch" feels like trying too hard to find a difference where there isn't one. Thats needlessly nitpicky to demand they both use the exact same verbiage. They got their points across. We should reaaalllllly let this go. It wasnt a big deal to begin with tbh.
Lets go back to arguing over a teraflop vs ssd speed or something.
Sony said overwhelming majority of 4000, which mean thousands. MS said thousands. Seems like the same damn statement from both sides to me.
Hanging on the "at launch" feels like trying too hard to find a difference where there isn't one. Thats needlessly nitpicky to demand they both use the exact same verbiage. They got their points across. We should reaaalllllly let this go. It wasnt a big deal to begin with tbh.
Lets go back to arguing over a teraflop vs ssd speed or something.
I don't think it's just that.
I think it's trying to reconcile that with also boasting about their upcoming platforms.
But I think either company could have found a more elegant way to satisfy both goals.
I am so out of the loop on this. Life is hectic to say the least. What's the "top 100" thing?
"My Senran Kagura game isn't compatiable. You will hear from my lawyers!!!"
This is so funny .
Either way it's the same for both MS and Sony most games will work but the won't say 100%.
Saying that mean they can get sue if one game has a problem.
Either way it's the same for both MS and Sony most games will work but the won't say 100%.
Saying that mean they can get sue if one game has a problem.
Cerny talked about "the top 100" PS4 games running on PS5 in a way that it sounded like they will only roll out 100 games on PS5's BC initiative at launch.
However the new statements say otherwise.