Should have done a 5 second video showing how to get a full rdna2 spec console, with one person handing a series x to another.
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Should have done a 5 second video showing how to get a full rdna2 spec console, with one person handing a series x to another.
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What RDNA2 features are only on Xbox Series X/S? Microsoft's messaging is so confusing, it's ridiculous to wvoid mentioning that those are the in-house solutions like DirectX Raytracing... But I guess they need to fuel console wars through misinformation as a marketing strategy... Oh well
Nah. The PS5 is based on RDNA2 architecture while using custom solutions for certain features to fit Sony's needs, whatever those are. Microsoft, however, seems to be uses the full feature set provided to them by AMD which also features in the newly announced GPUs.
Of course Sony won't support every feature, they customize, that is their approach to console design because they don't need parity with PC.
With that said, that blogpost is lacking a mention of the key hardware feature of RDNA2, the infinity cache. I don't think neither console have it (we know for a fact Xbox does not have it from the architecture papers), but without the feature that provides the biggest improvement for RDNA2, can you really say that the GPU is "full RDNA2"? That is not the downplay the series x, it's a fantastic machine, but I am confused what does "fully integrate RDNA2" mean in this case
With that said, that blogpost is lacking a mention of the key hardware feature of RDNA2, the infinity cache. I don't think neither console have it (we know for a fact Xbox does not have it from the architecture papers), but without the feature that provides the biggest improvement for RDNA2, can you really say that the GPU is "full RDNA2"? That is not the downplay the series x, it's a fantastic machine, but I am confused what does "fully integrate RDNA2" mean in this case
Erm....you do know that direct x is a ms developed and maintained api currently only supported on windows and Xbox (essentially only the windows kernel), right?
Since when is directx supported on openbsd?
It's crazy how many assumptions are being made in here from a simple non specific tweet.
On one hand some of you are like:
- PS5 has RDNA 1.5 or RDNA 1 with a few features from RDNA 2
- PS5 doesn't have Variable Rate Shading
And then the rest of you are like:
- Microsoft is flaming fanboy wars!
- The only differences are that it's not directx 12
- PS5 has RDNA2+/RDNA 3 because of the custimizations
How is it possible to have these types of bold conclusions from a tweet that simply says the Series X/S is the only console with full RNDA2 Integration?
On one hand some of you are like:
- PS5 has RDNA 1.5 or RDNA 1 with a few features from RDNA 2
- PS5 doesn't have Variable Rate Shading
And then the rest of you are like:
- Microsoft is flaming fanboy wars!
- The only differences are that it's not directx 12
- PS5 has RDNA2+/RDNA 3 because of the custimizations
How is it possible to have these types of bold conclusions from a tweet that simply says the Series X/S is the only console with full RNDA2 Integration?
This lol.Wow at people being offended that MS is marketing their consoles.
would make sense if they were. a lot of people are saying direct x is irrelevant to consoles which just seems absurd to me.
You mean like people pretend that the video of a Sony exec exchanging disks with another Sony employee was completely innocent?
So PS5 doesn't use DirectX stuff, what a surprise. Other than that it's still RDNA 2. But I guess MS got the response they wanted with this sort of article.
Looks like MS own embargo by amd was lifted today. They can reveal the full RDNA 2 suite of features.
Haven't both sides always done this? Next gen starts when we say, this is how you trade games, we believe in generations?
We will see soon enough when we get proper comparisons and hands on impressions.
This is all stemming from a game of tug of war between two groups since 2018. Now that one console has come out saying it has 'full RDNA2 Integration' and the other hasn't all hell is breaking loose.
Yes.
People who are pretending it had nothing to do with the competition are dishonest or clueless.
People being deliberately obtuse as if MS doesn't have a history of doing this.
lol. Navi 10 is RDNA 1
"AMD's Navi 10 GPU uses the RDNA 1.0 architecture and is made using a 7 nm production process at TSMC. With a die size of 251 mm² and a transistor count of 10,300 million it is a medium-sized chip. Navi 10 supports DirectX 12 (Feature Level 12_1). For GPU compute applications, OpenCL version 2.0 can be used. It features 2560 shading units, 160 texture mapping units and 64 ROPs."
So rather than looking at 10 TF vs 12TF.
The Xbox is going to have 50%+ more performance per watt? lol
Just like PS4 didn't have the revolutionary, proprietary and fully bespoke move engines that the Xbox One had. Sony is playing catch up again.
Not weird. Makes sense. DX12 Ultimate features are Xbox only.
So those DX12 Ultimate features are missing.
??? ps5 and ps4 dont need to have windows and directx features.
Props to MS marketing, there are really good compared to last launch. They are not lying and people are eating it up. They where sitting on this for a while.
And for the last time PS5 is RDNA2 based, Sony just chose (or cant DX12) to not use some features and developed and added some of there own. So full RDNA2 means use all of the base features. RDNA2 based is using most features and drop what you dont need or cant use and add your own. It does not mean the PS5 is RDNA1.
And for the last time PS5 is RDNA2 based, Sony just chose (or cant DX12) to not use some features and developed and added some of there own. So full RDNA2 means use all of the base features. RDNA2 based is using most features and drop what you dont need or cant use and add your own. It does not mean the PS5 is RDNA1.
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Basically lol but I'm here for the embarrassing posts people are really feeling themselves
Mesh Shaders we do. Sampler Feedback and VRS have had no hints that it's supported.
VRS is one area that has been heavily speculated to be different on PS5 though, if it's not missing. But we've only had speculation. We don't know for sure yet which feature(s) PS5 didn't adopt from RDNA2, or which it does or doesn't have analogs of.
Navi 10 isn't based on RDNA2. There's the core RDNA2 microarchitecture, which both consoles and these PC parts are based on. There's then 'PC-standard' RDNA2 features, which the consoles adopt to different degrees (XSX to a full degree). There are some things that both have added or tweaked different to 'PC-standard' RDNA2 (e.g. SFS texture filtering, gpu cache scrubbing) - again, possibly to different degrees, and I think that's the end of the story we have the least visibility of right now.
But that means:
DirectX® Raytracing
Variable Rate Shading
Mesh Shaders
Sampler Feedback
All of them pretty important.
But why are most of the rest talking like ONLY MS does it?Shit, even in the GPU market marketing there is stuff like this.
We do know. Xbox mentioned specifically DirectX Ray Tracing, Variable Rate Shading, Sampler Feedback Streaming, and mesh shading. We know Sony has ray tracing, but we don't know if they have their own implementations of VRS, SFS, and mesh shading.
Microsoft Marketing Team with that dirty ass campaign stirring up the warriors again.
PS5 = Custom RDNA2 (Customized for PS5 features and who knows what they added)
XBOX X = Standard RDNA2 (Closer to what we get on PCs)
If you don't get that please gtfo.
PS5 = Custom RDNA2 (Customized for PS5 features and who knows what they added)
XBOX X = Standard RDNA2 (Closer to what we get on PCs)
If you don't get that please gtfo.