Bang on. I'm subbed until the end of 2022. Basically, a higher value customer than 5 people buying a next gen console that only focuses on single player games, bought physically.
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MS: "90 million active Xbox Live Users (up from 64 last quarter); more than 10 million GamePass subs"
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Bang on. I'm subbed until the end of 2022. Basically, a higher value customer than 5 people buying a next gen console that only focuses on single player games, bought physically.
Next you're going to say people actually like multiplayer games. /s
Sony and Nintendo didn't make any money this gen?
This is a gem of a response where we live in the fantasy world where as soon as Microsoft gets some momentum all of the sudden Nintendo, Sony and everyone else will stop making good games. Yes, let's ignore what services like Playstation Plus can do for titles such as Driveclub where a poor launch would normally kill a title yet ended up being loved by the community. Or a game like Resogun and Rocket League who used promotions and services to catapult their titles.
Good news for you is this doom and gloom attititude has been going on for many years and will likely continue for many more. I heard xCloud will soon be your only option too. /s
People bitch about Microsoft's reluctance of releasing numbers and think it's all because they aren't very good, then the moment they do they don't like them and feel Microsoft will control the world.
But the 20 percent is monthly users. Not a total of everyone that has tried to service. A lot of that 80 percent will have tried the trial. They aren't in the 10m figure.
Any service that has a 20 percent attach rate is doing insanely well.
Game Pass (and subscriptions in general) are seen by some as the beginning of the end for game ownership (physical or otherwise) and collections.
I had no idea Game Pass was this successful. This is some real momentum going into the launch of the Series X.
I don't see how they want to undercut it, unless they put their best games on the service. Otherwise these services live with the third party games and indies and unless Sony goes deep pocket like MS psnow will be worse.
I think it will be alot bigger when it rolls out to xcloud. I still like to buy Physical media but it's the direction the entertainment industry is heading in.
One way of looking at it - suppose a console has a 100 million install base.... take the absolute monster blockbuster game on the system - it sells 15 to 20 million copies, no one would call that anything but a huge success, despite the fact that 80 to 85% of the install base never touched it.
Yeah, it's obviously the solution to the Stadia problem, where people don't feel inclined to pay full price for games they will never truly own.
Youre not included in this number then. It's 'more than 10m current subscribers'.
I'm sure a lot of people do that. But this is about current subscribers. So while you could be in the figure for this quarter, you'd be out the next. Just how Netflix shows their subscriber numbers.
I mean, they have more than ten million now. I doubt they will be at 2 next month.
Ha, yeah.
Also, they have motion smoothing enabled on their TVs. Ahhh.
LOL at the "GamePass has to be failing financially" truthers that come out in these threads...tomorrow they'll go back to acting like MS has been hiding these numbers 🤣
Sure...subscriber growth ONLY happened because of $1 deals...that's how it works...and btw, even if everyone paid $1, that's still $10 million dollars a month that would be zero dollars a month without GamePass.
Sure...subscriber growth ONLY happened because of $1 deals...that's how it works...and btw, even if everyone paid $1, that's still $10 million dollars a month that would be zero dollars a month without GamePass.
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90 million active users is such a useless metric. How many are gold subs?
In the world of data driven analytics and focus testing it's not
People's determination to spin any positive Microsoft news into something bad is fascinating.
Sony and Nintendo have had a fantastic generation and it has resulted in some of the best games ever. Why is the thought of another company seeing success, bringing great games and services and pushing it's competitors to be better a bad thing?
Sony and Nintendo have had a fantastic generation and it has resulted in some of the best games ever. Why is the thought of another company seeing success, bringing great games and services and pushing it's competitors to be better a bad thing?
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Streets of Rage 4 is about the same level as other third party games they've had day one. Stuff like Outer Wilds, Mutant Year Zero, Void Bastards, The Good Life etc. It's fairly busness as usual.
Xbox will almost certainly becoming my primary console next gen after being very disappointed with them this gen and selling im XB1 after 1 year. I am already holding back purchasing some games such as Streets of Rage that I know are on game pass.
But I would much prefer to pay an annual subscription rather than monthly. Is this an option for game pass?
But I would much prefer to pay an annual subscription rather than monthly. Is this an option for game pass?
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I actually meant "stopping the acceleration", but yeah it's worth being clear. Their investments in GP will only increase.
This is excellent news Game Pass has exceeded my expectations. 10 million subs is quite a feat which tells me Microsoft is good at the subscription business, and they have the ability to bundle multiple subscriptions. Wall Street loves digital services with large userbases and Microsoft has always been great at keeping their stock performing well. Proud investor here :)
This Math is quite silly. Many subscriptions services offer a $0 promotional period, then people stick around after seeing the value first hand. Does this people dont want to pay $0? No it means "try before you buy" is a proven business practice.
It would be all but impossible to reach 10million subscribers, if 93-94% are quitting after the promotion. MS' numbers means high retention.
If Sea of Thieves didn't cull all the free trial periods then Gears 5 certainly finished them off!
Yeah that's exactly how they undercut it.
If MS' can dangle their entire first party on a $10 carrot in order to sway people away from Sony towards xbox. They surely a similar carrot from Sony would get those people to stay and maybe get even more people to leave xbox.
I don't believe you can buy annual Game Pass Ultimate subs but you can buy 3 month subs and stack them. No need to keep paying a monthly direct debit. Just buy a bunch of 3 month codes from Amazon or whatever. They'll just extend when you next have to pay.
Yes, I know that. I was just replying to that "real numbers" thing, cause this is something we'll never know. There's 10+ million now, but we don't know (and don't need to know) how much money those 10+ million subscribers generated in march, cause people can pay monthly, use special offers, pay upfront, upgrade an Xbox Live Gold subscription, etc. There are so many variables.
I'm loving to see different games being funded and finding their public on Game Pass. Like, Psychonauts 2, the original is one of the best games i've ever played and I'm happy that more people are gonna play the sequel now that it'll launch on the service, have a marketing push from Microsoft.
There is. If you go from the subscriptions page on a web browser you can even get 24 months
Wouldnt rec it though, youd miss a lot of good deals by picking a huge chunk at once like that, but its up to you and whats more convenient for you
I've personally used the dollar deal at least five times since 2018. It at least used to be for those who were currently not subscribed, not those who had never been subscribed. Not sure how it is now since I did the convert Gold to GPU thingy.
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So I take it this means paying subs and not those coming from 1$ deals and whatnot?
Depends on how long ago the user took the deal and for how long the deal was for. It would still include all those who upgraded their Gold subs to Game Pass Ultimate for $1/£1 though. As far as I know that offer is still running even today, though there's no way of knowing what volume of that 10m did that particular offer or upgrade.
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You can also convert it a second time too for those that missed out on stacking.
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I'm subbed till end of 2022, so getting a XSX is almost a no brainer for me (unless what is still to be announced on the XSX in the coming months will be disappointing).
My first world problem is going multi-platform or not with next gen, as i am currently invested in the PlayStation economy when it comes to consoles...
My first world problem is going multi-platform or not with next gen, as i am currently invested in the PlayStation economy when it comes to consoles...
Meh. I like Gamepass, but I also like keeping hold of my games. With Gamepass, third party titles enter and leave the service on a monthly basis. When it leaves the service, you have no choice but to purchase it.
I love it as a rental service, allowing me to try games to see if their worth my money, but it's current model is certainly not the future.
True, and at least the GPU seems to get more expensive the more you pay upfront:
1 month - 12,99€
3 months - 38,99€ (~13/month)
6 months - 78,99€ (~13,165/month)
12 months - 157,99€ (~13,166/month)
24 months - 314,99€ (~13,125/month)
(luckily my next GPU sub charge is on 28/02/2023).
Those are very strong numbers. You have to imagine Sony and Nintendo are looking at this very closely. I guess the issue is that when you've got titles like Animal Crossing and Spider-Man doing extraordinary numbers at retail, it's difficult to "give up" that money in favour of a subscription -- even if a subscription may mean more income in the long-run.
They'll definitely be crunching the numbers.
They'll definitely be crunching the numbers.
Of course it's the future and it's beyond the Netflix of gaming. Netflix doesn't give you a 20% discount to purchase movies that are leaving.
GTAV is leaving soon, but that's not the norm for third party time on there. Wolfenstein The New Order has been on there for like a year it feels like and it's finally leaving.
Plus whatever game Microsoft is making for next gen will be on there forever.