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Hand down one of the very best TV shows I've ever seen, holy shit. I started watching the show knowing absolutely nothing about it other than the font for the title card was the Sega font. I actually thought it was a comedy cartoon prior when all I'd heard was the name. I had no idea it was about technology or capitalism or anything. Took me a little while to get through the first season, I watched it slow, and by the end, I couldn't tell if I liked the show or not. The Season 1 ending felt really, really confusing and rushed in a few ways and I kinda felt like maybe the show could have ended right there and been ok. I actually took a couple of weeks to return because I didn't find myself enthralled with season 1, felt like the ending to season 1 was a little to high on it's own product, and that I couldn't figure where the show could possibly go from there.

Then I started watching season 2. And I didn't get up off my couch again until the end credits to the series finale were rolling. Holy fucking shit, what a show. I see online that some people are really upset that they never showed White Rose's machine or master plan, but I actually loved that ending. It, to me, felt like it let the show go batshit crazy into hard scifi without straining its credibility. You're like "time travel and alternate dimensions doesn't fit this story at all..." and thus, it never happens.

Gotta say, that final stretch, when F Society returns at the climax with that broadcast that exposes The Deus Group is some Grade A Rage against the Machine anger-porn, what a great moment.

Awesome, awesome show. I dunno why, but the phrase "Goodbye, friend" gets me.
 

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Easily one of the best TV shows of the decade. All 4 seasons are so ridiculously incredible. 305 is easily one of my favorite TV episodes of all time. Just...incredible all around.
 
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Easily one of the best TV shows of the decade. All 4 seasons are so ridiculously incredible. 305 is easily one of my favorite TV episodes of all time. Just...incredible all around.

I feel so stupid for not seeing any of the twists coming in the show. Like, that dude running the website regarding the darkweb being a prison warden blew my mind.

One of those shows that is even better on the second watch than the first because of all the new info you have. Like, notice how every single one of elliot's vigilante hacks somehow involves rescuing children who are being sexually exploited.

The episode where they finally reveal the truth about Elliot and his dad was one of the most riveting pieces of TV I've ever seen.
 

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The episode where they finally reveal the truth about Elliot and his dad was one of the most riveting pieces of TV I've ever seen.
The twist about the dad was genius. It was literally in front of all of our faces and yet NOBODY saw it coming. The whole show is just so meticulously crafted.
 

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Once Darlene said "Hello Elliot" I got tears man. Loved this show since the beginning. I also have to say having the outro being the final song at the end is so damn fitting that Sam Esmail deserves all the props.
 
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The twist about the dad was genius. It was literally in front of all of our faces and yet NOBODY saw it coming. The whole show is just so meticulously crafted.

Probably my favorite moment in the series comes when Elliot reframes his hiding the key in the museum. He realizes he wasn't running away and hiding, he was fighting back. He instantly recontextualizes himself as someone who is no longer weak. That moment gives him strength, and it's surrounded by bleakness in the series. It comes at just the right moment.
 
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It is right there at the top with Battlestar Galactica for me. An audiovisual orgasm.
There are so many gorgeous shots in the show too. There's that one where Elliot is trying to talk to Angela in the hall, and the shot is overhead between the door and the apartment. They're leaning essentially face to face, angela's room bathed in red. It's such a pretty shot.

And that entire episode that was done in one single take. Amazing.
 
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Also, White Rose is one of the best "villains" I've ever seen. She's so complex and multilayered. There were even points where I was rooting for her, rooting for her machine.
 

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There are so many gorgeous shots in the show too. There's that one where Elliot is trying to talk to Angela in the hall, and the shot is overhead between the door and the apartment. They're leaning essentially face to face, angela's room bathed in red. It's such a pretty shot.

S3E8 and S3E10 are probably my favourite episodes in the series. E8 was already one of my favourites and then they finished it with "In Time" from Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure (one of my favourite movies) playing over that scene you talk about. E10 has the ending with M83's Intro playing during the undoing of the hack scene. Great scenes with great music choices.
 

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Watching the final season as it aired with people here and on reddit was incredibly engaging. I think about Mr. Robot a lot and how flat out stunning it was at times.
 
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S3E8 and S3E10 are probably my favourite episodes in the series. E8 was already one of my favourites and then they finished it with "In Time" from Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure (one of my favourite movies) playing over that scene you talk about. E10 has the ending with M83's Intro playing during the undoing of the hack scene. Great scenes with great music choices.

One trick they used over and over again that would never make me not chuckle at how it got me, is when the soundtrack would get cut off by some diagetic element in the show. It happens constantly, over and over again, but every single time it would surprise me.

This show has some great music in general. I dunno the artists behind the music, but they seemed to always fit the scene well. The music accents everything, really ramps up the connection. That single take episode wouldn't be nearly as tense without the soundtrack.
 
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Watching the final season as it aired with people here and on reddit was incredibly engaging. I think about Mr. Robot a lot and how flat out stunning it was at times.

I appreciate a show where the main character is so well acted, that I legitimately believe he's a genius. I felt that way about Walter White in Breaking bad, where it wasn't so much what he said, but the things he didn't say in silence, that the audience would fill in mentally with deep introspection, that made him believably genius. I felt the same way about Elliot. The way Rami portrays these thousand yard stares makes it feel like there is way, way more going on in his mind. Which, given the theme of the show, is correct.
 
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The joke in the sitcom episode where Mr Robot says "It's one for alderson...." and Elliot confusingly says "And Alderson for one?" is legitimate sitcom gold. I actually laughed at that joke.
 

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Season 2 pissed a lot of people off by going "So this is what would actually happen if you did something like that to the economy" and it was incredible.
 
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Oh, and what the hell did Tyrell see before he died? That is never brought up again! What was that blue glow?
 
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Season 2 pissed a lot of people off by going "So this is what would actually happen if you did something like that to the economy" and it was incredible.

WHAT? The way they handled the aftermath of the collapse of all money was one of the smartest, best things about the show. Because of fucking course that's how it would play out. That E-corp got richer and more powerful is exactly how it would happen. People would absolutely flock to e-coin like morons. It's so good, because it's so true. Of course the only people who would truly suffer would be the average person.
 

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One trick they used over and over again that would never make me not chuckle at how it got me, is when the soundtrack would get cut off by some diagetic element in the show. It happens constantly, over and over again, but every single time it would surprise me.

This show has some great music in general. I dunno the artists behind the music, but they seemed to always fit the scene well. The music accents everything, really ramps up the connection. That single take episode wouldn't be nearly as tense without the soundtrack.

One that stood out to me when I first saw it was when Tyrell stands up from strangling the woman in S1, the music cuts out abruptly.
 
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One that stood out to me when I first saw it was when Tyrell stands up from strangling the woman in S1, the music cuts out abruptly.

I think the best example in my head is near the end, when Philip Price is giving this swelling speech about how he won and White Rose lost, and the music is grand and triumphant, until White Rose pulls out a gun and shoots him. The gun shot silences the music, and it's replaced with a woman screaming.
 
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Some have speculated it's just a visual representation of his death via an offscreen Blue Screen of Death

But Tyrell doesn't use Windows, he uses Linux, he makes a point of that. Linux doesn't have blue screens...

It's weird how this show made me sympathetic for nearly every "villain." Like I felt honestly bad for Tyrell, despite him being an objectively awful person. He was fucked up, but then again, everything around him was fucked up as well. His wife was a sociopath, for example.

The only character in the show that I felt they did absolutely nothing to make her feel sympathetic, was that woman who was the dark army's handler. Hooooooly shit I hated that woman so much, which I guess is a great sign of how well she played that role.
 

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I think the best example in my head is near the end, when Philip Price is giving this swelling speech about how he won and White Rose lost, and the music is grand and triumphant, until White Rose pulls out a gun and shoots him. The gun shot silences the music, and it's replaced with a woman screaming.

Oh yeah that's a good one!
 

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and the creator of the show is currently working on a BSG reboot.

It is just perfect. Can't wait.

There are so many gorgeous shots in the show too. There's that one where Elliot is trying to talk to Angela in the hall, and the shot is overhead between the door and the apartment. They're leaning essentially face to face, angela's room bathed in red. It's such a pretty shot.

And that entire episode that was done in one single take. Amazing.

So many outstanding compositions:

 
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It is just perfect. Can't wait.



So many outstanding compositions:



What's more amazing about that one-take episode is that it's not an actual one-take. It's intricately stitched together to make it look like one take, the outside of the building and the inside are two different cities. The amount of work they put in to make it into a one-take was actually more than it would have been to just be an actual one-take, which of course is a phenomenal amount of work to begin with.
 
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So Elliot's mom -- she is a pretty terrible woman to her children of course, but in retrospect: did she know about what her husband did? If you watch her talk about her husband in Season 1's flashbacks, she harbors an extreme amount of resentment towards him. The show frames it as her being greedy that he "didn't fight" and has died and left them with nothing, but then again Elliot is an unreliable narrator. He didn't even know the truth about his dad at that point. If his mom knew what her husband did, that would explain her anger towards him more, no?
 

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my favorite show of all time and probably the only one i was able to watch as each episode aired if not watch it the next day afterwards. Rami Malek is an amazing actor, and I can't wait to see whatever he and Sam Esmail do next. I think Sam made an incredibly smart move casting him cause he's the only person who can say some of the stuff Elliot said in S1 about society and have me still give a damn about the character.
 

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So Elliot's mom -- she is a pretty terrible woman to her children of course, but in retrospect: did she know about what her husband did? If you watch her talk about her husband in Season 1's flashbacks, she harbors an extreme amount of resentment towards him. The show frames it as her being greedy that he "didn't fight" and has died and left them with nothing, but then again Elliot is an unreliable narrator. He didn't even know the truth about his dad at that point. If his mom knew what her husband did, that would explain her anger towards him more, no?

Wouldn't the Elliot that showed us glimpses of what happened be technically the mastermind? Since the mastermind is the one who didn't have all the information while the real Elliot already knew about his father. Might be wrong though so feel free to correct me.
 
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Wouldn't the Elliot that showed us glimpses of what happened be technically the mastermind? Since the mastermind is the one who didn't have all the information while the real Elliot already knew about his father. Might be wrong though so feel free to correct me.

That's what I mean, we never see things from the perspective of the real elliot. The few times in the series the real elliot comes back, we see them as black outs. We only ever see the flashbacks of his mother from the perspective of Hacker elliot, who doesn't remember what his dad did to him. Hence why I figure he remembers his mom's disposition towards his father in a confusing way, framing it as something that makes more sense to him. Sort of like how he remembers "jumping" out the window to make sense of it all. Like, he remembers his mom hating his dad, but since he doesn't remember what his dad did, the reason she hates his father in his memories is made up. Hence her being mad that he "didn't fight back" and "was a pussy."

I say this because the real-world interactions we observe between Elliot and his mother, she's basically catatonic and living in isolation. Perhaps she had a mental break over the guilt of not stopping what happened? Once she's dead, they go through her possessions and find elliot's walkman, which to me, reads as a sign that she still thinks about her son.
 

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So Elliot's mom -- she is a pretty terrible woman to her children of course, but in retrospect: did she know about what her husband did? If you watch her talk about her husband in Season 1's flashbacks, she harbors an extreme amount of resentment towards him. The show frames it as her being greedy that he "didn't fight" and has died and left them with nothing, but then again Elliot is an unreliable narrator. He didn't even know the truth about his dad at that point. If his mom knew what her husband did, that would explain her anger towards him more, no?
The series never really answers that question as Elliot probably never would have known the answer, but it does explain why Elliot's harboring far more resentment towards her than Darlene over the course of the series.
 
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The series never really answers that question as Elliot probably never would have known the answer, but it does explain why Elliot's harboring far more resentment towards her than Darlene over the course of the series.

I felt Darlene resented her mother much more than Elliot. Of course, Elliot sort of invents a new mother in his head in Season 2, which is why he goes and thanks her at the end. He creates a mother who will protect and heal him, like his real mother never did, and I think comes to terms with her. But Darlene never really forgives or accepts her mother in any way. She didn't even want to go move her stuff out, Elliot had to force her.

I don't think Darlene knows what Elliot's dad did, the dialog seems to suggest she never figured it out. Elliot protected her in the closet, so she probably wasn't molested, but her dialog for her dad is whistful. She says she doesn't remember him much but wishes she does. Much of her resentment for her mom seems to stem from their family being incredibly broken (for natural reasons) that I think she never picked up on except for subconsciously. Like the story she tells about being kidnapped, she says she's just happy to be with that woman who cared for her. I get the feeling she feels super abandoned by her mom, which I guess lines up with the idea that she knew about their dad being a child molester but didn't stop him.
 

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Fuck yeah it is! That last season is oh so incredible. Easily one of my favorite TV shows, ever.
They fucking nailed that ending too which was just amazing to see.
 
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I think the ending was a letdown. Some parts i liked, others I didnt.

I love the ending, personally. I can get why some people might be upset, but the idea that this mysterious project didn't work is just so appealing to me. With TV shows and movies and such, you're just so primed to things happening juuuust the right way so we get the full picture. In the long run, what the machine was, wasn't important to the overall story that was the heart of Mr Robot: Elliot's struggle to find self and sanity. I actually love the cold way the show tells you white rose was wrong, her gamble failed, and immediately moves past it. I feel like actually explaining the machine would have destroyed the mystique. It's totally the whole "not showing the shark" trick in jaws. It lets me keep these impossibly fantastic expectations I have in my mind.
 

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For me personally every single character in this show was just perfectly written, casted and acted. Really incredible stuff.
 

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I love the ending, personally. I can get why some people might be upset, but the idea that this mysterious project didn't work is just so appealing to me. With TV shows and movies and such, you're just so primed to things happening juuuust the right way so we get the full picture. In the long run, what the machine was, wasn't important to the overall story that was the heart of Mr Robot: Elliot's struggle to find self and sanity. I actually love the cold way the show tells you white rose was wrong, her gamble failed, and immediately moves past it. I feel like actually explaining the machine would have destroyed the mystique. It's totally the whole "not showing the shark" trick in jaws. It lets me keep these impossibly fantastic expectations I have in my mind.

I dont need the machine explained, but WR conveniently being a damaged person like Elliot just felt lame. It's like in Dexter where everyone is a serial killer. She was over the top cartoon villain. And she had an effect on Angela. Okay-- WR is just super convincing or whatever. But it just felt like they did more than just imply the machine was all nonsense.

The bigger issue for me is that it SHOULD raise a ton of questions to anyone investigating that Elliot is tied to all of this. So in the end, I dont feel its a happy ending. There are just far too many coincidences for Elliot not to face serious prison time or repercussions. That's what bothers me most. Elliot solves his inner conflict but there's still a lot happening about him that is just ignored.

Then there's Dark Army. Way too easily dealt with. I liked the show because it felt more grounded but I felt some things were too neatly wrapped up.
 

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I remember just playing on my phones for the first 6 episodes of the last season, was just dull overall. And they dropped the ball HARD on the Wellicks, absolute waste of two great characters. But damn, starting with 407 it just took off like a rocket. Legit the best episode of TV I've seen.
And in the final, when the mastermind just stares at fake Krista and says "no! This is my life. It always will be" I got mega chills. The ending was great even if it wasn't what I really wanted.
 
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I remember just playing on my phones for the first 6 episodes of the last season, was just dull overall. And they dropped the ball HARD on the Wellicks, absolute waste of two great characters. But damn, starting with 407 it just took off like a rocket. Legit the best episode of TV I've seen.
And in the final, when the mastermind just stares at fake Krista and says "no! This is my life. It always will be" I got mega chills. The ending was great even if it wasn't what I really wanted.

When hacker elliot at the end gets scared and asks Mr Robot if it's like he says, just eternal nothingness, and Mr Robot says "We'll always be a part of him" in a call back to Season 2 is great. Also mega depressing to me in an existential way.
 

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Apologies for the necrobump, but I just wanted to share my love for this incredible series as well. Rewatched season 4 as I managed to get my whole house through seasons 1-4 over the last couple months. Honestly, its my favorite show right next to Twin Peaks. Its so beautifully crafted and shot, and a lot of the themes and characters really resonated with me. My girlfriend surprised me with the complete series on blu-ray this morning, and while the case is extremely fragile and shitty, it makes me so happy to just own all of it. Really hope that they release a nice 4k edition later down the road though. Legit obsessed with this series lol.
 

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When watching i thought the finale was the episode with the airport scene at the end. i was like holy shit what a crazy bold ending. And i saw that there was one more to go. Thinking back i can only vaguely recall what happens in the last episode so i guess it didnt make much of an impact. It was a fun show but season 2 and how it ended kind of put me off of the series. Season 3 did make the previous season better so theres that.