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cDNA

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yep as he was still making Videos during that time that were still getting millions of views. So its at best shady at worst down right evil.
Is not the main purpose of the PPP keep the people employed even if the business are losing money? It makes sense he was making videos while receiving the loans to pay for salaries.
 
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Musubi

Musubi

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Yep as he was still making Videos during that time that were still getting millions of views. So its at best shady at worst down right evil.

He can't fund every single video like this one out of his pockets. Most of his outlandish videos are backed by high-paying sponsors if those deals fell through I could see why he would apply for the loan. The guy has a company which has employees that he pays. Expecting him to do that out of his personal wealth is crazy.
 

Tatsu91

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He can't fund every single video like this one out of his pockets. Most of his outlandish videos are backed by high-paying sponsors if those deals fell through I could see why he would apply for the loan. The guy has a company which has employees that he pays. Expecting him to do that out of his personal wealth is crazy.
He gets so many sponsors that their is no excuse he does not need that money. He makes an insane profit that he did not need it many Business went under that could have used that money.
 

HardRojo

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Oct 25, 2017
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I could buy a whole store too.
With my credit card... and they'd I'd cry because I'd have to pay the whole thing off...
 

xxracerxx

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Oct 25, 2017
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He can't fund every single video like this one out of his pockets. Most of his outlandish videos are backed by high-paying sponsors if those deals fell through I could see why he would apply for the loan. The guy has a company which has employees that he pays. Expecting him to do that out of his personal wealth is crazy.
If there is truth to how much his channel makes a year, then...yeah he can afford it.
 

Vector

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Feb 28, 2018
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Mr Beast is a symptoms of a broken system beyond repair and its sad seeing people here cheering on his "philanthropy"
 

Feep

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't mean to pile on the hate, he seems like a decent guy, but slamming twenty people inside a shoebox fucking GameStop during a pandemic just rubs me the wrong way. Masks aren't going to do shit with that many people moving around for very significant periods of time within a small, enclosed space like that. He didn't need to make it a party in there.
 

sappyday

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Oct 27, 2017
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I don't mean to pile on the hate, he seems like a decent guy, but slamming twenty people inside a shoebox fucking GameStop during a pandemic just rubs me the wrong way. Masks aren't going to do shit with that many people moving around for very significant periods of time within a small, enclosed space like that. He didn't need to make it a party in there.
Feels like my job
 
Nov 18, 2020
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Mr Beast is a symptoms of a broken system beyond repair and its sad seeing people here cheering on his "philanthropy"
+1. And he's supporting large corporations like Gamestop tremendously while doing it. Classic neo-liberalism. Feel good fluff at a price, and of course he's making $10000+ on the ad revenue for this video alone. He was probably in on some kind of sponsorship deal too because now they get built-in advertisements for 11 million people. If really he wanted to make a statement, he'd take all that money and silently donate it to food banks instead of bragging about it and raking in the exposure dough.
 
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Senator Toadstool

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Oct 25, 2017
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Mr Beast is a symptoms of a broken system beyond repair and its sad seeing people here cheering on his "philanthropy"
this. also lots of what he gives are materialist goods. and giving someone a house. is going to follow up? does the person have a job? what about property taxes? repair and maintenance costs? people need support system not some rich guy doing adds for corporations giving himself millions for videos where he still continues to come out ahead. Its like habitat for humanity not deeding houses to the recipients but deeding it to themselves and having the person pay THEM the mortgage payments. and requiring "sweet equity" (400 hours of slave labor)

performative philanthropy is toxic and just perpetuates horrible cycles. if he's helped people, that's great for them. but recycling corporate money for stunts? eh
 
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this. also lots of what he gives are materialist goods. and giving someone a house. is going to follow up? does the person have a job? what about property taxes? repair and maintenance costs? people need support system not some rich guy doing adds for corporations giving himself millions for videos where he still continues to come out ahead.

performative philanthropy is toxic and just perpetuates horrible cycles. if he's helped people, that's great for them. but recycling corporate money for stunts? eh
Here have a Mansion!
Yay, but wait I can't afford it?
Mansion!
 

Handicapped Duck

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Mr Beast is a symptoms of a broken system beyond repair and its sad seeing people here cheering on his "philanthropy"
How generous of a multi-hundred millionaire to be generous with his wealth. Yeah it's nice he's helping the community, but maybe the community shouldn't be forced to live in poverty to begin with.
 

R1CHO

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Oct 28, 2017
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+1. And he's supporting large corporations like Gamestop tremendously while doing it. Classic neo-liberalism. Feel good fluff at a price, and of course he's making $10000+ on the ad revenue for this video alone. He was probably in on some kind of sponsorship deal too. If really he wanted to make a statement, he'd take all that money and silently donate it to food banks instead of bragging about it and raking in the exposure dough.

How would that work?

His content is basically watch me while I gave away this and that. That's what has catapulted that YouTube channel, starting with Twitch online donations.

On the other hand I do agree that the content is basically dumb and I don't care for it, and yeah, it's kind of baffling that contrast between the typical American capitalist view of the world, with half America fearful of the "socialists" and then aplauding and crying stuff like this.

How many MAGAs got a free Beast car? What happened to work hard to make it? xD
 

Senator Toadstool

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Oct 25, 2017
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How generous of a multi-hundred millionaire to be generous with his wealth. Yeah it's nice he's helping the community, but maybe the community shouldn't be forced to live in poverty to begin with.
He's using his wealth to perpetuate this cycle by gaining that by working with the forces who caused this to keep getting rich on what often amounts to poverty porn
 

Vuze

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Oct 25, 2017
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this. also lots of what he gives are materialist goods. and giving someone a house. is going to follow up? does the person have a job? what about property taxes? repair and maintenance costs? people need support system not some rich guy doing adds for corporations giving himself millions for videos where he still continues to come out ahead.

performative philanthropy is toxic and just perpetuates horrible cycles. if he's helped people, that's great for them. but recycling corporate money for stunts? eh
Yes, this also always rubs me the wrong way. Initial cost is one thing, but I don't think the random office worker guy he gifted a Lamborghini will have any choice but to sell it asap. Which of course is still a net benefit for the guy but in the end lots of money is just lost that way. Same with the blue hair guy who paints houses etc. You sure that old lady you gave it to will be able to cover running costs and maintenance? These videos are kinda sketchy.
 

Rover

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Oct 25, 2017
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He seems to work with PewDiePie often and promotes him. Even the dog video posted on the first page has a PewDiePie mention. It's like if milkshake duck was rich.
 
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Yes, this also always rubs me the wrong way. Initial cost is one thing, but I don't think the random office worker guy he gifted a Lamborghini will have any choice but to sell it asap. Which of course is still a net benefit for the guy but in the end lots of money is just lost that way. Same with the blue hair guy who paints houses etc. You sure that old lady you gave it to will be able to cover running costs and maintenance? These videos are kinda sketchy.
If you wanted to gift a car something like a Corolla is much better, like you and ST said most people could afford that, but then you don't have the wow and shock value for clicks.
 

Valcrist

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Oct 25, 2017
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His goal is to have big food banks all over the USA and focus on taking care of homeless people too. He's finally getting the food bank stuff started with this video.
 

Ashhong

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Oct 26, 2017
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The hate in here is just embarrassing. The dude worked hard and was able to become a YouTube star, then uses his wealth to give back to the community. Yet some are upset because he didn't give enough? That he dared to make a video to keep his wealth going, so that he could in turn give more? Get over yourselves
 

Senator Toadstool

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Oct 25, 2017
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The hate in here is just embarrassing. The dude worked hard and was able to become a YouTube star, then uses his wealth to give back to the community. Yet some are upset because he didn't give enough? That he dared to make a video to keep his wealth going, so that he could in turn give more? Get over yourselves
"Worked hard"

AKA got corporate sponsors and a production team

this myth of the wealthy earning their wealth is meh
 
Nov 18, 2020
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How would that work?

His content is basically watch me while I gave away this and that. That's what has catapulted that YouTube channel, starting with Twitch online donations.

On the other hand I do agree that the content is basically dumb and I don't care for it, and yeah, it's kind of baffling that contrast between the typical American capitalist view of the world, with half America fearful of the "socialists" and then aplauding and crying stuff like this.

Yeah it's feel-good charity porn that feeds off of shock value. I know his content feedback loop. He's funded by corporate money and he makes significantly more on the grift to accelerate his wealth at the same time. It's not genuine philanthropy aimed at seriously addressing systemic issues. There's always an angle to it.

Like he gave away a bunch of games from GameStop. Great for the people who received them. But GameStop gets a free ad that 11 million people saw, and probably sponsored the giveaway from their ad budget. And now he makes $11,000 from the ad revenue and continues to build his commercial empire and merch. I don't like how corporate the whole thing is, under a thin veneer of altruism.

The hallmark of true philanthropy is giving silently without strings attached, because it should be about the philanthropy itself, not the marketing and hype around it and how you exploit it to build your brand. Kourtney Kardashian: "My dad always said to not be boastful about the charity work you do. Ask yourself if you are helping to benefit others or for a self-serving purpose."
 

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The hate in here is just embarrassing. The dude worked hard and was able to become a YouTube star, then uses his wealth to give back to the community. Yet some are upset because he didn't give enough? That he dared to make a video to keep his wealth going, so that he could in turn give more? Get over yourselves

It's great for those that win - but we shouldn't act like he is Youtube Jesus. He runs a business. It isn't about giving, it is about making (views/money).

He's said quite a few times in the past that he wants to put every cent he makes from YouTube back into projects like food banks & charities etc.

Seems like a genuinely good guy.

C'mon.
 

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Mr Beast is a symptoms of a broken system beyond repair and its sad seeing people here cheering on his "philanthropy"

I don't see how. Entertainment is maybe one of the least sketchy ways to make money.

+1. And he's supporting large corporations like Gamestop tremendously while doing it. Classic neo-liberalism. Feel good fluff at a price, and of course he's making $10000+ on the ad revenue for this video alone. He was probably in on some kind of sponsorship deal too because now they get built-in advertisements for 11 million people. If really he wanted to make a statement, he'd take all that money and silently donate it to food banks instead of bragging about it and raking in the exposure dough.

That's the kind of thing I think makes no sense. Like those rich kids who just wanted to figure out how to give their money away.

Whether or not he turns out to be a good person is beyond me... But using money to make money to give away is objectively smarter and more beneficial to everyone than simply giving it away quietly. By far.

He could do more, of course - target certain political, mental health, and educational initiatives in areas they would have the greatest impact... But he's doing a much better thing than quiet donations.
 
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Yeah it's feel-good charity porn that feeds off of shock value. I know his content feedback loop. He's funded by corporate money and he makes significantly more on the grift to accelerate his wealth at the same time. It's not genuine philanthropy aimed at seriously addressing systemic issues. There's always an angle to it.

Like he gave away a bunch of games from GameStop. Great for the people who received them. But GameStop gets a free ad that 11 million people saw, and probably sponsored the giveaway from their ad budget. And now he makes $11,000 from the ad revenue and continues to build his commercial empire and merch. I don't like how corporate the whole thing is, under a thin veneer of altruism.

The hallmark of true philanthropy is giving silently without strings attached, because it should be about the philanthropy itself, not the marketing and hype around it and how you exploit it to build your brand. Kourtney Kardashian: "My dad always said to not be boastful about the charity work you do. Ask yourself if you are helping to benefit others or for a self-serving purpose."
LOL I was not expecting good advice from a Kardashian but pleasantly surprised.
 

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God forbid someone is able to help others as well as himself. Who's getting hurt from these giveaways?

The people that 'lose' the contests and miss out on a big, easy payday. If he still does that.
The aspiring kids that watch his videos and get the wrong ideas.
The people that get an expensive house or car and have to take debt when they have to pay taxes on them. (Just a guess)

I'm just saying we shouldn't pretend he is just 'giving away' money. He is making money. (And no, he doesn't give all of it away)

It would be great if he was at least honest about that.

I thought these were some pretty good ones

He probably made over half a million from Youtube earnings alone on this video.
 

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LOL I was not expecting good advice from a Kardashian but pleasantly surprised.

Kourtney's business has nothing to do with philanthropy, though.

Mr. Beast's videos are a cycle - people watch videos like these and buy his stuff/watch ads. Then, he gets money to give back.

It's good advice for most rich people, because that's not how they get rich.
 

Skyebaron

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Oct 28, 2017
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The best part was the child from africa dying from hunger while he bought stuff and I ate my 5th burrito.
 

Rover

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Kourtney's business has nothing to do with philanthropy, though.

Mr. Beast's videos are a cycle - people watch videos like these and buy his stuff/watch ads. Then, he gets money to give back.

It's good advice for most rich people, because that's not how they get rich.
I figured her business wasn't but I'm not into the Kardashians.

It's a business at the end of the day and you need to at very least cover your expenses and in most cases make a profit for growth. At the least I'll give him that his business does quantifiable good and theoretically does a lot.

LOL agreed, there are many saying about the rich.
 

Vector

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Feb 28, 2018
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I don't see how. Entertainment is maybe one of the least sketchy ways to make money.
Making money off of entertainment is not an issue in and of itself, but don't pretend MrBeast is helping fix any of the systemic problems that lead to poverty - if anything he's perpetuating those problems and inadvertently taking attention away from real solutions by glorifying philanthropy and parading it around as a solution.

It's an incredibly hollow, capitalistic way of addressing the issue of poverty and it's scary that MrBeast is legitimizing it and so many young people think it's OK.
 

TheMadTitan

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Oct 27, 2017
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The people that 'lose' the contests and miss out on a big, easy payday. If he still does that.
The aspiring kids that watch his videos and get the wrong ideas.
The people that get an expensive house or car and have to take debt when they have to pay taxes on them. (Just a guess)

I'm just saying we shouldn't pretend he is just 'giving away' money. He is making money. (And no, he doesn't give all of it away)

It would be great if he was at least honest about that.



He probably made over half a million from Youtube earnings alone on this video.
He didn't give someone an expensive house, he bought an employee from some business a house around the corner from where he worked in a relatively affordable (looking) neighborhood so he would have more room for his wife and expecting child. Both were employed and given that it's not LA or New York, likely would have affordable payments for the property and other assorted taxes.

The cars bought all came from used car lots, and all that is asked of people is which car are they interested in (likely cars already within their budgets since no one rolls up on a dealership without having a ballpark for the vehicles they're looking at), so it's safe to assume that they would've already budgeted for costs for that.

And given that in every video, he's telling people to buy merch and do other things multiple times, it's not like he's keeping it a secret that he's making money. He's telling people he's making money, and money he's makes gets used to do dumb shit.

While there's plenty of criticism to be levied, I don't think these are it.