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Movies that can technically be classified in a genre that many people don't associate them with
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I'm glad someone else has recognized it. The scene where India is offered a glass wine is so clearly a "she is drinking his blood" scene, only it is now metaphorical and not literal.
Black Swan is a horror film. I am not sure if that is what most people think or not, but it seemed to be marketed as a thriller.
To me, a Christmas movie (which is not a genre unto itself) is one in which the events of the film could only occur during Christmas. The Shining absolutely does not fall under that umbrella.
You are correct.
You are also correct. The events of Die Hard could have occurred at any time of year and it would not change the movie (except that one sign wouldn't have "Ho ho ho" on it).
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Heh, I hit post and knew that was coming. I was agreeing about the first Terminator being horror, then commenting how both franchises ditched their horror themes for more action oriented movies. Of course, Alien is known classic horror.
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Terminator 2 is also kind of a road movie
If you take out Batman's costume and Joker's make-up, and some of their antics, The Dark Knight is basically just a straight crime thriller/drama.
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The Village is a love story/romance film, rather than whatever the fuck the trailers for the film had you believe (thriller? I guess)
Avengers: Infinity War is a Greek tragedy, Endgame is its heavily-extended deus ex machina.
I just need to say that I'm so sick of this. You guys realize you're perpetuating a meme built from toxic masculinity, right?
I just need to say that I'm so sick of this. You guys realize you're perpetuating a meme built from toxic masculinity, right?
This would work for The Terminator also.
True.
Wait what? How?
I'm not a Die Hard guy (seen it once, was alright), but the meme seems.. harmless? Where does the toxic masculinity come in?
It's a reactionary response to Christmas not catering to mass media's usual trend of violent entertainment. The idea of Die Hard as a Christmas movie was highly promoted by Spike TV as the "grown men's alternative" to children's movies and Hallmark Channel dreck. Peppered throughout this meme's entire lifetime are all the hallmarks of toxic masculinity.
Whiplash isn't really a horror movie, but it comes way closer than "drama about jazz" would ever lead you to expect.
In at least Phantasm and Begins if you angle your head you can see it as a "Frankenstein versus the Wolfman"/"Alien v Predator" vein but it's "Crazy Bat Person" versus "Grim Reaper."
Cloverfield is a romance/love story.
Also, the "Die Hard is a Christmas movie" meme sucks. Lethal Weapon 1 is the real Christmas movie.
Also, the "Die Hard is a Christmas movie" meme sucks. Lethal Weapon 1 is the real Christmas movie.
Gremlins is a horror movie that heavily uses the iconography of Christmas and takes place entirely at Christmas time. I'll keep that in mind for the future I guess, but I didn't think using it to answer OP was an issue.
This is a very good example. It's got just enough gross out and disturbing parts to solidify it as horror which is probably what most people think about the movie, but the arc of the plot is largely about the relationship.
Die Hard is really more the problem in that context. Gremlins is very firmly rooted in Christmas as part of its storytelling. You could change Die Hard to any other time of year and all you need to do to the plot is change the reason for McClane's visit and the company party, which is trivial.
Agreed with the above post from Keldroc, but despite being the less-offensive example, stating it's a Christmas movie tends to come from a similar place, wanting to insert pre-existing violent media into Christmas as a reaction to more "wholesome" Christmas entertainment, without going whole hog and promoting the pre-existing films like the slasher Black Christmas as "Christmas movies" because they're simply TOO on-the-nose, or films like The Family Stone because they're not violent.
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lol maybe don't create a weird conspiracy theory about why people think Die Hard is a Christmas movie in the same post you deride them
Wait, since when is Gremlins not a Christmas movie? The entire plot of the movie centers around Christmas. The Mogwai was a Christmas gift. The rampage was on Christmas. Plus there's that whole Santa story. It's a Christmas movie. Christmas movies are allowed to be dark and edgy.
It's pretty funny to compare the Saturn V launch from Apollo 13 and First man.
Apollo 13 is filled with so much pathos and gleefulness about conquering space, meanwhile in First Man these rockets are more like rust buckets held together by a couple of nuts and bolts. Tom Hanks marches to the rocket like a hero, Gosling walks to it like it's his death sentence.
Overall I like First Man's depiction more, even if it can a bit too gloomy at times
I wouldn't call David Lynch's work "horror," they're too idiosyncratic to be easily categorized according to genre, but they definitely draw a lot from other genre work, and some of the scariest scenes in the medium are from the likes of "Mulholland Drive" and "INLAND EMPIRE."
What would you classify Westworld as? Western? Horror? Cyberpunk? I'm talking the movie, not the show.
Yeah it really showcases the danger and desperation well.
And I suppose I never thought about it in detail, but the moon landing itself is an incredible feat of piloting skill and technology. That scene had me on edge even though I knew the ending.
Drive-in in my town showed Gremlins a few weeks ago. Felt like weird timing, it's a December watch for me every year.
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Star Wars is a traditional Hero's Journey and is specifically NOT sci-fi like many people think it is. It's basically Lord of the Rings with a different skin.