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Mortal Kombat 11 - Review Thread
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Yup and that's the entire point.
Frustrate the player into spending money on MTX.
Fantastic and wonderfully thorough review! I'm still excited to play this one but it's good to know there are reviewers holding NRS and so on accountable. Great stuff.
I hope they patch that grindy shit out. AFAIK Shadow of War patched out a lot of its skeevy mechanics, so maybe the same will happen with this.
Picking it up almost entirely for the story, and customization isn't too TOO big a thing for me, but everything that's being shared about the grind just makes it seem needlessly tedious.
It'll be disheartening to 90% of the dev team. If NRS is on board with this, it's the higher ups, not the people who do most of the work.
Why are devs making games grindy instead of fun? I'll continuously play a fun game where I won't even buy a shitty, grindy one infested with micro-transactions - like MK11.
Precisely. All the hard work of an entire team, brought down by shady decisions.
Yeh, as others have said that's a good review. Thank you for highlighting the issues fairly.
"Mortal Kombat 11 isn't just a fantastic entry into this long running franchise, it's a stunning example of how much value and content developers can pack into the fighting game genre."
this is near satire level of a sentence in light of the heavy grind aspects and tedious shit you have to do to earn a single skin for the char. at best, it is negative value lol
but yes, the game itself, the core fighting is really well done, i´ll give it that
this is near satire level of a sentence in light of the heavy grind aspects and tedious shit you have to do to earn a single skin for the char. at best, it is negative value lol
but yes, the game itself, the core fighting is really well done, i´ll give it that
Yeah, I get that. It's like if EA ruined FIFA's Ultimate Team. I mean, you can still play online and there are other modes, but nowadays most people play Ultimate Team the most so ruining that is going to be disappointing to a lot of folks.
Because they take customers for granted and want to yank more money out of them.
If they had the foresight to expect this and prepare for it they wouldn't have shat the bed in the first place.
It has everything to do with everything. If we want this nonsense to stop we have to at least ground our hyperbole and present actual, defensible reasons for the practices to change (ie sales losses, MTX money losses, etc.).
Screaming the sky is falling with a dash of incredulousness does nothing.
Plus, you wrote like you played it. I'm more interested in reviews from folks who played it and how the grinding impacted them such that devs and pubs would see the negative effects.
I think they knew exactly what they were doing. They are just looking if the reviewers and players eat it or don't.
Don't just jump on me, lol, this is a truth that pretty much everyone is stating. Read the thread. You're wrong.
I also did not write like I played it at all.
There is no hyperbole here, the kind of MTX focused grind on show is not worthy of a 9/10, it's something that should be fought against as best we can and that means, at the VERY LEAST, not rewarding it with near flawless scores.
I dont like GaAS components, guess itll be samsho for me. Even if I dont have to pay it's just like get these fucking progression bars out of my face, so lame and unfortunate that terrible modern game design will ruin another franchise
I haven't read/watched many reviews yet, just looked at their scores and summaries, but I have the feeling that many reviewers, because they are not regular fighting gamers, didn't even fully realize the extreme grindiness of the game. Reviewers that are more regular to fighting games do clearly point it out as a negative.
The fact that the grind fucking sucks doesn't make that statement wrong. On top of the classic arcade ladder how many fighting games have this level of character customization, a 5-6 hour story mode with the highest production values and (yes, shitty) challenge towers?
I do hope they patch the towers of time because this game seems to be nearly flawless in every other department. Having the Krypt be randomized is fucking stupid too.
I'm not wrong at all and fear you completely misunderstood my point. I want reviews to call this out because us bitching on a forum carries little to no weight. Stating bald conclusions does nothing in the grand scheme.
hopefully the bigger youtubers like Angry Joe and folks will cover this too, people need to be aware about the MTX laden aspects of the game and the grind which is attached to getting some gear pieces
I mean they might just say "we didn't want early adopters to get too much of a head start, hhehehe" and just nerf the grind and the timed towers tomorrow.
but that is of course wishful thinking.
I love playing the game but it's just too hard.
mind you, the grind is not even my biggest problem, difficulty is.
but that is of course wishful thinking.
I love playing the game but it's just too hard.
mind you, the grind is not even my biggest problem, difficulty is.
Its so obvious how WB was getting more and more interfiring with Development of the game, MK9 had easy fatalities, Injustice 2 is where Im pretty sure pushed NRS to have Lootboxes and now the grind.
You could have seen this MILES away.
Lets hope that now with all this negativity over the grind NRS will be able to have weight in the meeting room with WB and change the progression to better place. Though even that is not much likely.
You could have seen this MILES away.
Lets hope that now with all this negativity over the grind NRS will be able to have weight in the meeting room with WB and change the progression to better place. Though even that is not much likely.
I play these games solo.
The reported grind has caused me to cancel my preorder.
I may pick it up around the holidays on sale and maybe the grind will be fixed by then.
The reported grind has caused me to cancel my preorder.
I may pick it up around the holidays on sale and maybe the grind will be fixed by then.
Any reviewer that doesn't mention the micro-transactions, or mentions them but doesn't take points off of their review, is not doing their job and are actively hurting the industry. It's sad to see 8s and 9s already, as if the anti-consumer bullshit isn't even there.
No we can't. It's not hyperbolic, in any way, to say that the grind on show with the MTX on offer is a bad thing for consumers.
It's not hyperbolic to say review scores should reflect this.
Stop defending it.
That's true to a degree, but Netherrealm are the ones that chose to make the cosmetics such a big focus.
Plus, it seems consumables are locked away in the Krypt, and are an essential item for beating some of the Towers. In that respect, gameplay is absolutely affected.
I was really looking forward to this and ready to buy it day 1 but after reading about all of these issues I'll hold off on that purchase. It really sucks because I quite enjoyed the multiverse in Injustice 2 and was hoping they would fix some of the annoyances instead of multiplying them to encourage buying consumables with mtx. Hope they do something about it soon but if they don't I guess I'm sitting this one out.
I said your initial statement is hyperbolic. I actually agree with your points here. It's just a shame we got here with your initially hyperbolic statement.
And if you check my other replies here and elsewhere, I am consistent with this.
if you just play online there is no grind because there is nothing to unlock/progress online.
My initial statement is not at all hyperbolic.... a game does not deserve a 9/10 if it has these flaws.
Is the Krypt the only way to obtain consumables? If so, then yeah, that's a bigger problem.
What upsets me is that they did that several months post release, after nobody gave a fuck anymore. Wouldn't surprise me if they did it here by the time Injustice 3 or whatever is announced. It hurts much more in the long run to have a bad launch of a fighter and eventually make it better down the line than it does a singleplayer game like Middle earth so maybe they'll be quicker to avoid a huge drop off in players but I doubt it.
It is deserved. They are trying to slowly change things, imo they are thinking 1. We accept the grind in injustice, 2. We become accustomed to a longer grind that makes us (the larger more casual audience) emotionally invested in our game while also making the grind a little more tedious so that 3. By the time we offer a real money alternative, itll seem harmless and nobody will mind given the amount of time they've spent in our game (like Fortnite)
That's not what you said. Here's what you said.
You are going to extremes. The grind is present in the game yes, but it's not the entirety of It, the main part of the game is actually great.
Says who again? It seems like people sometimes forget that reviews are entirely subjective.