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Jimnymebob

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I mean, I guess they're Sub Zero because of the axe, but when you have these in a match and the characters don't have their name on the health bars, it gets confusing as a spectator. It's like 'oh, there's that yellow ninja, I guess they're playing Scorpi- Oh they've just shot an ice ball".
 

Noctis0Stella

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hm I don't know the characters look really realistic and amazing, but women like Jessie or Sonja are too much covered with clothes while the men can show their ripped bodies.
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I mean, i don't care about nudity in games, but the developers should have free desicions about the designs in a game.
 

lazygecko

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Oct 25, 2017
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Character design, probably yes. But as for overall art direction, I think MK9 is still unparalleled. It's such a vibrant, clean and colorful game coming out at a time when the brown and desaturated aesthetic of western games had hit its peak.
 

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I want to see more of Robocop. I want to see how close they get to him being photorealistic from the movies. Considering his design, he should probably get closer than any other character.

Oh shit, I wonder what his alternate costumes will be. I hope they have Robo-Terminator as one of his designs, with the metallic skull face.

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I can't believe this is real.
 

NeoRaider

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D'Vorah's design and details are so impressive to me. I feel like they put so much effort when designing her.
 

jett

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With how character customization work and the hundreds of combinations involved, do you realize exactly what you are asking here? Forget keeping the file size under 200GB for just the video files alone to account for every possible combination.
I think he's asking NRS to stop using pre-rendered cut-scenes.
 

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D'Vorah's design and details are so impressive to me. I feel like they put so much effort when designing her.

She has one of the best designs of new mortal kombat by far. Prior to MKX, I always felt the klassic kharacters had better designs than shit like Reiko or Taven or similar. But D'Vorah is right up there with the klassics.
 

Tyaren

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hm I don't know the characters look really realistic and amazing, but women like Jessie or Sonja are too much covered with clothes while the men can show their ripped bodies.
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I mean, i don't care about nudity in games, but the developers should have free desicions about the designs in a game.

Female characters do still show skin, just to a more sensible amount. Sindel is a good example:

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This is imo way more attractive than her in some kind of silly mankini.
 

Ruisu

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Aug 1, 2019
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hm I don't know the characters look really realistic and amazing, but women like Jessie or Sonja are too much covered with clothes while the men can show their ripped bodies.
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I mean, i don't care about nudity in games, but the developers should have free desicions about the designs in a game.
This has been explained in lore in a satisfying way imo, the older designs were more about the "show" of the tournament, while new designs are closer to how the characters actually prefer to dress or their actual battle outfits
 

lazygecko

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Oct 25, 2017
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hm I don't know the characters look really realistic and amazing, but women like Jessie or Sonja are too much covered with clothes while the men can show their ripped bodies.
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I mean, i don't care about nudity in games, but the developers should have free desicions about the designs in a game.

MK9 really took the designs to absurd, cringey levels even by the past standards of the franchise. Sonya's bra-less vest was the most WTF-inducing. The game still being my favorite visually I think is a testament to how good it looks overall in spite of the glaring issue with the character designs (the juvenile fan service outfits were far from the only problem with them, really).
 

lucebuce

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I think he's asking NRS to stop using pre-rendered cut-scenes.
No, OmegaDL is right.

The intros/outros/Fatal Blows/Krushing Blows on CONSOLES run at 30 FPS while the rest of the game is 60. On PC, you have the option to have it all at 60 so no big deal.

Most people are assuming that one of the things they might add to a PS5/XseX port of the game would be 60 FPS for all cinematic stuff.
 

Greywaren

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Jul 16, 2019
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This is absolutely true and I'm glad most of us agree. MK11 is a gorgeous game and I sometimes let the AI play by itself just to look at it.
 

arcadepc

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The funny thing is that back then MK was regarded as a fighter with the best styled realistic models, especially with 2 and 3. Everyone knew other Japanese games were better in gameplay.

But MK4 art direction went down the drain especially when compared to Japanese 3d fighters.
With mkx and mk11 they gained back some of that lost art style, though I still think Tekken 7, SC6 and VF5 have better 3d character design (clothes not included due to customization) , animation and movements when it comes to realistic characters.


Regarding Goro, Motaro and Kintaro, I still prefer the original claymation model. A high res scan of the original figures with more detailed motion would be amazing. One reason I hope for a Primal Rage remaster too instead of using 3D.
 

Erg

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Oct 30, 2017
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Haven't played MK11 yet, does it still have microtransactions to pay for easier fatalities in this one? Because that was pretty annoying
 

lucebuce

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Haven't played MK11 yet, does it still have microtransactions to pay for easier fatalities in this one? Because that was pretty annoying
I have like 10,000+ Easy Fatality tokens stored up and I haven't spent a dime beyond my initial Premium Edition purchase. The game practically showers easy fatality tokens on you.

Though you CAN still pay for them if you want for whatever reason.
 

yogurt

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Oct 25, 2017
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I can't do MK any more, man. The fatalities are just too gruesome. I don't want to see a photorealistic recreation of someone's flesh getting torn off, I just don't.

It's a shame, because I used to LOVE MK up through MK 9 and the character designs do look amazing...
 

Dizastah

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Oct 25, 2017
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I can't do MK any more, man. The fatalities are just too gruesome. I don't want to see a photorealistic recreation of someone's flesh getting torn off, I just don't.

It's a shame, because I used to LOVE MK up through MK 9 and the character designs do look amazing...
That's the problem I have with it. I really want to buy it but I wish there was a lower gore setting. It's kinda hard to play when you got family members watching you.
 

ThatMeanScene

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't think anyone would dispute this about MK11. Excellent excellent character design; they make me want to play the game but then I remember how it plays and the animation so I don't. 💀
 

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While i loved Jades design in MK9 as a horny 13 year old her redesign in 11 is light years ahead in terms of functionality.
 

Double 0

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Nov 5, 2017
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Sonya: Jacqui says as kids you were scared of me.
Cassie Cage: You'd randomly attack us with arm bars!
Sonya: And you learned to always be ready.

Not being super serious, just kind of funny.

They got that from the voice actress. Sonya's voice actress, Ronda Roussey, used to have that happen to her by her mom, a famous judoka.
 

RM8

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Oct 28, 2017
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MK9 had the entire female cast wearing banana hammocks. Like, at least DOA tries to be creative in its pandering, MK9 had the worst dressed female cast both from a pandering perspective and from a design perspective.

"Male characters show their ripped bodies". Liu Kang channels Bruce Lee, MK9 Jade channels a stripper, pole dancing included.
 

Neoxon

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Oct 25, 2017
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No argument there, especially considering that NRS finally cut it out with the sexualization of the game's women. If they can just get their in-game animations up to the level of the competition (they've been making some progress in MK11, so credit where it's due), they'd be unstoppable. A shame about Sonya's voice, though (at least with Scorpion, as much as I miss Patrick Seitz, his new VA at least did a solid job).
 

"D."

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Oct 30, 2017
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I wholeheartedly agree. I just need them to keep chipping at those animation. Some characters have improved a lot, others are damn near perfect (Liu Kang, Kung Lao) and a bunch of others still animate and move in that typical MK 'jank' we all know and love
 

jett

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No, OmegaDL is right.

The intros/outros/Fatal Blows/Krushing Blows on CONSOLES run at 30 FPS while the rest of the game is 60. On PC, you have the option to have it all at 60 so no big deal.

Most people are assuming that one of the things they might add to a PS5/XseX port of the game would be 60 FPS for all cinematic stuff.
I know all this.

I'm saying what Gitaroo might have meant is for NRS to both stop doing 30fps cinematics during gameplay and to also stop doing pre-rendered cut-scenes (all of their story mode is pre-rendered). If their story modes weren't pre-rendered they could conceivably run at a higher framerate and resolution if you had the appropriate hardware.
 

Annabel

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Mar 22, 2019
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I hated Skarlet in 9 but now she's my favorite character as of 11. Her redesigns helped a lot.
 

Nano-Nandy

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Mar 26, 2019
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Haven't played MK11 yet, does it still have microtransactions to pay for easier fatalities in this one? Because that was pretty annoying
It does. But you still earn tons of them by playing normally (just like before); and they're only shown to buy on the "premium store" which only appears in the main menu at the right corner; were you can buy other stuff you can unlock normally but with crystals (that you can also earn by playing).
 

CaptainKashup

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May 10, 2018
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It does. But you still earn tons of them by playing normally (just like before); and they're only shown to buy on the "premium store" which only appears in the main menu at the right corner; were you can buy other stuff you can unlock normally but with crystals (that you can also earn by playing).

+ You can win Easy Fatalities tokens by just playing the game
 

Crossing Eden

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Oct 26, 2017
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Everything presentation wise about this game is insane. I seriously cannot wait to see what this team does with next gen hardware. 💦

I mean, i don't care about nudity in games, but the developers should have free desicions about the designs in a game.
This always confuses me. As if developers are forced to give us more sensible designs when before it was the opposite. Developers used to not be given free reign to create reasonable character designs.
 

Leo-Tyrant

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Jan 14, 2019
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I definitely agree that they turned it around. Mortal Kombat has been just terrible from an aesthetic perspective to me for over 20 years.

I think 2 peaked and then it was all terrible until 11. I still dont love the animation (which is on purpose).

From the Tekken perspective: I agree. Tekken 3 was peak design, they looked like real people/fighters. Now they look like RPG characters with random loot on top.

A disgrace.
 
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skillzilla81

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Oct 25, 2017
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hm I don't know the characters look really realistic and amazing, but women like Jessie or Sonja are too much covered with clothes while the men can show their ripped bodies.

I mean, i don't care about nudity in games, but the developers should have free desicions about the designs in a game.

I love this alternate reality where people with shitty opinions like yours think developers are being forced to be more respectful with their female designs.

As if that form-fitting Jade outfit in MK11 isn't "showing off" her body.