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Mordau Devs intend to add option that erases PoC's and female player characters for alt righters in-game [Article updated with Q&A with Devs]
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Backpedaling is never a good move...I'm pretty sure I've seen them mention the toggle back pre-release too, so it isn't a good look for them at all
They should have just owned up to it
They aren't even trying to clean up the community. Like they said in the interview, they are basically hoping that it will solve itself. Bending over and allowing users to toggle women and POC off. That's spineless.
I mean it's such an absurd idea I could almost believe it was a rogue developer, like seriously who could possibly think of such an idea as anything other than a joke to mock alt-right/racists.
Because the mere existence infuriates people. I'm actually reminded of a review I saw recently of Battletech. Dude saw that there was an option to select "other" for gender and lost his shit in the review. These people are unstable assholes that are full of hate.
Looking at how the Mordau dev's are handling their toxic community, I'm lead to doubt their honesty. Creating an option to disable representative player diversity sounds like something they'd want to do, like YouTube refining the algorithm rather than actually doing something effective..
You're extending them good faith which I ran out of long ago for the gaming community. I don't think they were "bending over" They just got caught. There's a very good reason the gaming community will ALWAYS remain toxic. It's not just Gamers that hang out on 4chan and 8chan boards. The devs and heads of these companies grew up in the same shit and still partake in those communities as well.
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So are they adding an option to toggle the Giant's in Horde mode, since I don't recall there being any ten feet tall barbarians descending from the North?
In the end it doesn't really matter if the devs are white supremacists or not. They want to actively appeal to white supremacists in order to get their money, and that is just as bad if not worse. They can get fucked either way.
It's fascinating how transparent this is for everyone but (apparently) them:
Ahh yes, immersion:
I mean, their response after this being mentioned more broadly was "wow, look at that unethical game journalist, guys." They know exactly what they're doing.
Eh, maybe. I've seen good people get defensive when criticized over all kinds of things. Being criticized is hard. More so when it's by a public website.
That said you're right that it does hurt their argument and makes it seem like they are actively courting the GamerGate crowd, so they shouldn't get benefit of the doubt.
It might be kind of funny if the option's description was something like "I'm a snowflake who can't deal with diversity"
It would be even better if, server-side, it gave the player's character a white hood but the player them self couldn't see it.
After Finish watches ALL 8 Seasons. I just Notice that Westeros didn't have any PoC.
Does this totally historically accurate medieval combat simulator have your sword strikes bouncing off plate armor ineffectually? Does armored sword-fighting involve grabbing your sword by the blade to jam it into gaps like a makeshift spear and lots an lots of wrestling?
You must have shut your eyes when occurrences such as Maori and British Indian actress played Dornish women.
It does have real historical magical perks including the ability to regain all your health when you deliver a killing blow. So just like German mercenaries of the 16 century and Viking's from the 10th century super immersive and totally real.
Yeah it did have POC... so totally understandable that it could be forgotten about, easier to make it part of essos in ones mind.
The books have a minor character named Jhalabar Xho in the royal court.
An exiled prince from Summer Isles who regularly attends tourneys and big events, he's been unsuccessfully petitioning Robert Baratheon to invade his homeland in a bid to regain his station. Basically a less outwardly pathetic version of Viserys without a sister to sell. Arguably more nefarious since it's explained in The World of Ice and Fire that these royal power struggles are largely bloodless, ritualized ceremonial wars and now this sore loser wants to bring plundering rapists to his home for power.
AFAIK he is not in the series.
It's really a shame that Summer Isles worldbuilding got downplayed, as there you have an island nation of black people with the best maritime (their ships and navigation skills are superior to Westeros and most of Essos) and bow technologies in the world.
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Yeah there's a bunch of them in the book, and of course Vary, Tyros of Myr and other Red Priests could have been POC. But I'm presuming everyone is talking about TV show GOT, which included Turkish (former)porn actor playing Shae. Never mind Dorn which was heavily coded in the series as Moorish Spain influence.
This game is basically a bunch of warriors running around and whacking each other with weapons is it not?
That is certainly not how medieval battefields worked.
While I'm usually in favor of giving more control to the player, this seems icky as fuck considering the circumstances.
Haha. If it would be like this, it might be worth it.
Video games just like movies or books can aim for authenticity and accuracy. Just because you can respawn and stuff doesn't mean every bit of realism should be thrown out of the window. But what's happening here seems just like pandering to worst kind of assholes, considering how soft they've been dealing with the rampant racism and toxicity in their game.
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Honestly, The News would help Increase sales the game than anything.
Oh look, more receipts that completely invalidate Triternion's milquetoast denials. Shocking.
Can people complain about a sword strike not being completely useless against an opponent in plate armor?
The backpeddling is fascinating to watch.
Lies. I've never seen a doggo get to 100%
Well yeah it has video game smearing of centuries of history but aims for realism and immersion when called on only having white males as player avatars.
Just imagine a realistic fps or strategy game set around the operation crusader battles in north Africa 1942 but having units such as AV7 tanks as part of Rommel's 21 pz div and whippet tanks as part of 7th Armd Division, and then deciding Indian units don't exist because none of them were armoured corp. WW1 and WW2 occurred in the same century but mixing units from the Viking era and German mercenary pike man from Renaissance is all good? Nah it's a fantasy video game.
Look at how you can have Crusaders, but no Mamluke, Turk's, Fatimid Egyptions (including Regt's drawn from what is now Sudan). But German pike merc's vs Crusader all good and super REALS.
You don't have Augustus commanding late republic legions and Byzantium era cataphract cav in Rome total war. The late Imperial armies and the Republic/early Imperial armies/equipment is different enough Creative separated the types between two different games and still kinda stretched things within the long time period the Empire existed.
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Kind of a shame they're backpedaling. I was looking forward to getting the game, setting the filter to women of color only, and then taking a gazillion screenshots that I'd plaster all over and boost the google rankings until they are known as that medieval women of color game.
I doubt that's how the filter would work. They want to put in a filter for white supremacists, not anyone else.
It has absolutely nothing to do with historical immersion, because PoC and women existed in Europe across all ages, and while there weren't many of them that fought, many of them did. Viking women were just as much capable of fighting as the men were, and especially in Southern Europe/around the Mediterranean, plenty of brown and black people existed.
Or the Moors, the Romans, the Greeks, the Egyptians, the North African kingdoms, etc.
Also super weird that "historical accuracy" always uses the modern concept of race that goes against the grain of all of historical consensus.
Nazis who enjoy celebrating "Western culture" love romanticizing imagery such as this game's, because they think it was a time where whiteness was pure, and women were suppressed.
Just about any historical and eurocentric game, really - Europa Univeralis and Crusader Kings are just as much of a hit as this game or Chivalry.
Stunning that something like this could ever exist, I thought the thread title might have been misleading but wow.
Really haunting, and it always seems to be the medieval history games that draw in the extreme right.
Really haunting, and it always seems to be the medieval history games that draw in the extreme right.
Also it's a multiplayer game that isn't even using real factions or countries lmao
Nonono you're all wrong and don't get it. The devs just don't want to give those a-hole players the opportunity to express their racism and hate by killing POC and female characters. They want them to only kill white guys, so they tricked them. It's quite ethical!
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Honestly though, it's so shitty and their reaction is also shitty. The realism and historical accuracy argument is just a bad attempt of damage control.
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Honestly though, it's so shitty and their reaction is also shitty. The realism and historical accuracy argument is just a bad attempt of damage control.
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