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Moon Knight |OT| Embrace the CHAOS
- Thread starter Helix
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Steven is more interesting than Mark honestly. The whole troubled stoic American mercenary thing is just kind of generic; and would make for a much less compelling main character. Hope that even with Mark in the drivers seat we still get a fair amount of Steven.
The only thing that's boring is waiting for the next episode. They should drop 2 episodes per week.
I'm not getting the criticism that this is "boring", either. They're doing something different with Moon Knight as a character, and the way that Oscar Isaac is portraying Marc and Steven is fascinating. It really feels like two different people and it's helping me suspend my disbelief a lot.
I was never invested in Moon Knight before, but now I am.
I was never invested in Moon Knight before, but now I am.
The weeks have been feeling long in between episodes; it's been a while that a show has hooked me week to week like this (Squid Game was a binge so that doesn't count haha)
On this thread people forget language and dialect coaches are a thing. He'll, they could have had some people fluent in Mandarin dub their voices and it'd have been better.
I'm still waiting for the "we weren't speaking Mandarin you fool" reveal, but that's probably being optimistic.
I'm still waiting for the "we weren't speaking Mandarin you fool" reveal, but that's probably being optimistic.
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I still don't get how this is such a big thing to get hung up on when it's one of the objectively hardest to speak languages on this planet, while literally all other languages get butchered regularly in all kinds of American movies and tv shows and nobody bats an eye. Yes, the guys' Mandarin was bad for literally one and a half line. Why is this not something to chuckle over, as all anime fans learned to do, and be fine with it?
Because, if it was an issue, they could have picked any other easier language? Leaving it in butchered feels a bit disrespectful and tarnishes the character at the same time because it's so clearly "off" and it isn't supposed to be.
For me, it's partially the problem of terrible Mandarin, and partially my irritation with Mandarin specifically always being the trope language used for "wow this guy is well learned/autodidactic" or whatever. Like, there's hundreds of languages all around the world, I just find it to be lazy when writers fall back on Mandarin always being the one language used for that shorthand. So, when they also do it poorly it just makes the cliche that much more annoying. I'd be just as impressed if he slipped into, like, German or Icelandic or something. There are probably languages that are an easier jump for native English speakers, and wouldn't sound so bad. I think the tendency to use Mandarin is rooted in a bit of, like, Orientalism, too.
It wasn't even just the tones--like the first word out of the girl's mouth was "knee high". Come on, even non-speakers have to have heard "ni hao" at least once in their life.
Well he did just lose half a universe worth of meals after Endgame
Just finished episode 2. Gonna go ahead and say Moon Knight has my favorite costume so far in the MCU. I was really wary of it in the promotional shots, but I'm digging the "light armor" look of it.
So is Ammit and the Egyptian gods an alien race like the Asgardians? Do they come from a pocket dimension like the Shang-Chi characters?
I'm predicting this episode to be a bit slower than usually as it's mid-season and it has to set up the foundation for the final episodes. Though, it's going to take place in a largely new setting so I'm sure the plot will move just as fast as episode 1 and 2.
Still waiting on episode 3 before I properly begin watching Moon Knight but I did come across a clip of Khonshu on YouTube and...is this supposed to be funny? Because i'm getting some serious Venom vibes from the performance and the way they mixed the VA's lines.
It's...complicated and it varies depending on the writer for Moon Knight, and this is assuming the writer isn't Doug Moench who just used Khonshu as an explanation for Marc's initial backstory in the comics i.e. a mercenary who died and got brought back to life. Sometimes he's portrayed as a manifestation of Marc/Grant/Lockley's worst character traits, sometimes he's a tangible being who's closer to an alien than a deity, sometime he's portrayed as a supernatural being. Most recently, he's been depicted as a sort of deity for which Marc is a priest for...kind of. The newest run is purposefully vague in regards to Khonshu as an entity beyond introducing a second "fist of Khonshu" as a physical representation of his vengeful nature.
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It's more " oh fuck oh shit oh no why is this happening" funny.
Also, Khonshu is a dick.
I mean, true to the comics, at least the more recent stories where Khonshu frequently gaslights and misleads Marc.
I dunno, seems tonally disconnected from the show's more serious tone when you have this deity/alien/supernatural being/whatever they end up deciding Khonshu is sounding like he'd tell Steven he's a turd in the wind and thinking it sounds cool.
He does deride Steven constantly, not 'turd in the wind' tier, but he stays being an asshole whenever he speaks out.
It's worth watching for sure.
Because taking care of language means you care about the culture. We wouldn't have this defense if it was a random white dude speaking bad Black English. It's the same thing.
Anime fans usually only have to contend with mispronounced names. But here it's not just names, it's a couple of sentences that was there to imply that Harrow's community is some enlightened, self-learned bunch. The problem here is that it's not simply butchering pronounciation, it's so off that it borders on them speaking gibberish and calling it "Mandarin", which Hollywood has a history of doing.
While I don't agree at all that this show is boring, I do feel like the OT is going at a much slower pace than the other MCU shows.
Viewership numbers seem to be second only to Loki amongst the MCU shows, so clearly they're onto something.
Hopefully! The lack of overt MCU connections, references, or teases might factor in to why the convo around the show hasn't felt as lively as Wandavision or Loki.
It's interesting to see the process of making a fake passport.
I'm liking the music for the Marvel Studios intro.
I'm liking the music for the Marvel Studios intro.
I'm starting to notice a trend when it comes to Gods (or godlike being) in the MCU not wanting to interfere in the affairs of humans.
Yep but after what happened in Eternals I doubt this is is like top 10 lol.
That was great? Definitely so new stuff with turning the night sky back 2000 years. That was a great sequence.
I bet they're gonna do the whole "innocent until Proven Guilty" thing that if they had acted before he had done it that they'd be no better than the god that they imprisoned.
Interesting...Layla has had business in Madripoor.
That sky sequence was dope af and the fact that everybody could see it happening must have been trippy as hell.
That sky sequence was dope af and the fact that everybody could see it happening must have been trippy as hell.
I don't think it's Jake...if it is, then he got a HUGE upgrade - an exact inverse to how Steven got a huge downgrade.
I personally think it was Khonshu taking over his body in those instances to set up the subsequence scene that shows that the Gods can also inhabit the body of their Avatars