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Monster Hunter Rise demo impressions thread (update with new mission out now)
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Some MH newcomer: " I know this may sound weird, but I'm a bit turned off that this series is about killing wild animals for sport"
MH veteran: "Well, you see, the quests are contextualized in a way that makes it more than hunting for sport. Hunters actively help the environment by hunting destructive invasive species such as Deviljho or sometimes some monster is enroaching on a settlement and need to be put down and then there are Eld..."
Hunter: "Hehe, daddy needs a new pair of BOOTS"
So how does Silkbind work for Bow users? I hit R + A and the characters hand starts to emit blue. But my arrows don't change or anything...
That one gives you an attack buff, the other one makes your stamina recover a lot faster if you stay still after the evasive jump.
So how do you do the wyvern riding with it? In the tutorial mission I wound up using a puppet spider instead.
In the full game you will be able change the Evasion Silkbind Skill for an Ariel Attack Silkbind Skill that will allow you to initiate Wyvern Riding without the use of the Puppet Spider
Ohhh ok. Hmm I wonder if there are any alternatives now. Thanks!
Have you tried dodging while aiming and then A or X (I don't remember which was is it) to do a jump melee ? I think that used to do mount damage on world.
Riding a monster to a resupply point for ammo to kill it with is very impolite.
Omg lmao. I've always kind of hated that kind of response to this particular criticism, like just admit it's blood sport much of the time, but I'd also rather capcom not draw attention to it or joke like that
I've never been on board with fantasy video games we play for fun somehow being in support of mistreatment of actual animals
I think thats a bridge to far. MH is my favorite series ever and I am massive geek on wildlife and ecology.
I don't have that disconnect or feel my love of the game somehow is in contrast to supporting humane treatment of wildlife
I think thats a bridge to far. MH is my favorite series ever and I am massive geek on wildlife and ecology.
I don't have that disconnect or feel my love of the game somehow is in contrast to supporting humane treatment of wildlife
Through osmosis the demo just started clicking for me and now I can't decide which weapon I like the most. Having a great time with SnS, Long Sword and Heavy Bowgun
I'm enjoying the Hunting Horn a lot, but I'm a bit nervous that I'll be the target of hostility if I use it (as is the case for support weapons/characters a lot of the time). Is it a weapon that you'll be judged for using if you're not super pro?
Maybe before it became the new hotness, but now that it looks like a weapon you can effectively solo there may be no more shame.
I've found you never really get that weird 'class choice prejudice' stuff with MonHun. Sure, hunting horn supports the team, but hunting horn is a weapon in its own right that can out-damage some of the others, it's not like they are the designated support role or anything and if you aren't doing the support right, you aren't pulling your weight like in some serious MMO endgame raid . MonHun moves so fast that the only time people really notice if you aren't doing too well is when you cart, or if you mess up traps and sleep/bomb strategies others have set up. not how much damage you are or aren't doing. Given that, the constant buffs means that hunting horn users tend to be very welcome!
In my experience, outside the general bungling of sleep/bombs, or luring monsters away from traps when the rest of the team is on the other side of it, longsword users tripping up others (particularly lancers) was always the most annoying for me. In turn, lancers charging with no care for sending others flying when those others were the ones piling on heavy damage at the time was also a class no-no.
In my experience* Monster Hunter isn't that kind of game. It's a pretty chill community where it takes showing up in low rank armor to an end-game encounter and carting thrice in the subsequent fight to get kicked from a pick-up group. I don't think the huge popularity of Insect Glaive ever resulted in more than mild ribbing. And, honestly, if a bad player joins my hunt, new Hunting Horn is the weapon I want them to bring because that way they'll be most likely to still contribute to us doing well.
*based on the 3DS gens. If World's mainstream success in the west changed the attitude of the playerbase, I'm not aware.
*based on the 3DS gens. If World's mainstream success in the west changed the attitude of the playerbase, I'm not aware.
Thanks everyone for your responses :) I'm looking forward to playing some funky tunes while helping my team even more now.
I still remember a friend and I playing MHTri and having a Hunter ask us to assist with Aleotron, the final online boss at the time. He then proceeded to wait in the camp while we killed it for him. After 30 minutes of slogging away, we went and literally kicked him into the arena where he, as expected, carted immediately, and so we sighed and settled in to finish it with just two of us. Presumably they just wanted to see the end credits or something, it was weird though, never seen it before or ever since. Agree on hunting horn being welcome for new players joining a hunt to take on something they aren't familiar with yet. Ranged weapons too, as long as they aren't charging in with an all-out attack style and triple carting inside of ten minutes, multiple hunts in a row I'm easy. We all have bad hunts.
Never had a case like that. Almost reads like the person didn't want to type out an elaborate explanation on the Wii keyboard so settled for a simple request and silence. But it reminds me of plenty times when the group I was in took on a tough monster that was new to someone. And if they carted once or twice and weren't comfortable continuing but stayed back in camp while the rest of the group finished the mission, never once did anyone have a problem with it or make them leave afterwards. It was the least toxic multiplayer game I've known.
Managed to beat an Azuros without drawing my weapon at all. I'm officially satisfied now.
Throwing kunai are the true 15th weapon.
Throwing kunai are the true 15th weapon.
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That's true, I've defo had that where one player carted twice and then stayed in camp so as not to be responsible for everyone failing the quest.
I think it's kind of silly they didn't include that in the demo especially the wyvern riding one where they are trying to teach you how to use your silk bind to wyvern ride. I spent forever thinking I was doing it wrong (and at the time no one was answering me on what I was doing it wrong) before I decided it just couldn't be done with bow.
I have to confess, I've played over a 1000 hours across all the MH games I've played (I started with Tri > 3U > 4U > GU > Rise will be next) and have never ever played a single game online. Pretty much every online multiplayer game (where communication is a thing) I've played was full of people being toxic towards me, most likely because of my background (without going into too much detail). Because of that, I automatically avoid some online multiplayer, including MH despite loving the series. I know I shouldn't just write the community off, since on message boards and discord I've had a nice experience and the community has been nice. But the toxicity I've experienced just ruins my enjoyment of some games.
I think I'm going to give it a go with Rise, since there is no voice chat anyway, so that should decrease the chance of me getting annoyed. And if the community continues to be nice, that's even better and might help me get over this prejudice of "online communication in multiplayer games is bad!"
I think I'm going to give it a go with Rise, since there is no voice chat anyway, so that should decrease the chance of me getting annoyed. And if the community continues to be nice, that's even better and might help me get over this prejudice of "online communication in multiplayer games is bad!"
Honestly, I'm wary about online communities myself and I absolutely never had a problem in any monster hunter game I've played so far. And a big part of that is simply that interaction via messages or voice chat is minimal to non-existent. I think I can count on one hand the amount of times in my 800+ hours in World where I got any sort of interaction with another random player, not counting stickers and gestures. And I easily played 70% of my time online. It really is a non-issue from my experience. I obviously can't speak for yours, but I'm pretty sure that you will be able to play Rise without having to deal with toxicity. There might be a few passive-aggressive automatic shout-outs when someone faints, or sarcastic sticker usage, but that's honestly the worst of it. I can't speak for PC, and I heard that mods like damage meter foster a bit of toxicity, but on consoles and especially Rise I wouldn't worry about it at all. So I'd absolutely encourage you to give it a try, because even without really interacting with anyone, hunting together can be a good bit of fun.
Thank you, your post is reassuring. I'm certainly willing to give it a try, and it's something that I think could be really fun.
Either way, I can't wait for this game to finally release!
MonHun is the only online game I play, the co-op nature helps I think, plus it being a system with a lot to learn. It's a really friendly community!
I could say the same thing about PC. Also speaking about the Damage Meter mod, out of the 985 hours I put into World on PC, I think I've only encountered 1 person out of all my hunts that linked one in chat, and when they did the other people talked them down lol
That makes me happy. And you're right, it being co-op helps against possible toxicity.
It is a fun online game. You wont really see too much of people freaking out or being rude. Especially as there is no mic support. I think I have only run into someone truly being an asshole once. And we just kicked him because lol at getting mad over this.
I think you'll enjoy playing online.
The most toxic it gets is when you don't know what to do. Especially on big unusual quests with rare monsters on a specialized field (ie jhen mohran). It was a unique battle with certain heavy equirement. But the toxicity is just ppl leaving.
I felt like a dummy because I triggered the spike at the wrong time but no one was verbally aggressive.
I expect a discord to pop up from this community and ppl are more than helpful. So finding ppl to hunt with when they know you are learning will be easier than on past games. It used to be tough to fill certain missions but the improvements to mission structure and drop in probably make it a better community.
I felt like a dummy because I triggered the spike at the wrong time but no one was verbally aggressive.
I expect a discord to pop up from this community and ppl are more than helpful. So finding ppl to hunt with when they know you are learning will be easier than on past games. It used to be tough to fill certain missions but the improvements to mission structure and drop in probably make it a better community.
I did it, I beat Mizutsune with LS, and with a pretty bad picture to show for it. I didn't have a chance to play all week but I watched Arekz video on LS in World and knowing how important the spirit gauge is I slayed it on the first try, even though if a little long and awkward. I also used the trick with launching it between two walls, and I feel pretty fantastic. I'll be working on time, so maybe I'll slay all three by the time game releases.
Using a dps meter in MH? Wow
Why would anyone even do that, so many factors can impact a fight with monsters in the game, only the arena is a more controllable environment. This isnt an mmorpg like ffxiv where mechanics are set and once the fight is memorized it's all about dps optimization. Lots of things can change how the fight plays out in MH.
After all, nobody is gonna help you farm a monster if you act like an asshole.
That's very good to know haha, I don't like the idea of a damage meter in Monster Hunter. Nice to hear that it's basically just the same on PC when it comes to the community.
It's just information, nothing harmful! (Sarcasm)
Nah, the actual reasoning is so they can feel superior. It's silly. They want to point out 'bad players' and point to themselves as 'good players'. Luckily, as others have said, it's incredibly rare because few are like that, and only for PC World. There're obviously proper usage like min-maxing for speedruns in multiplayer, etc, but the situation described ain't it.
My enjoyment of the demo went up immensely after ordering the the hori split pad pro. Knew the joycons would be a detriment to my enjoyment of the full game when I first started the demo back on Friday. It was down to the horis or the pro controller. The recent deal on the Hori pretty much sealed the deal for me. God, whata difference they make. Been doing things solo for now. Work and different timezones really screws up playing with folks from a discord server I'm in. MHW was my first MH and it feels so good to be back to MH. Looking forward to hunting with some of you in the full game! :)
Well I won't lie and say I didn't use one on the PC version. Before I stopped playing , I started using one for a few months. Never linked it in chat or used it in a toxic manner though. I was just used to having one for so long after playing WoW for years and was curious,and I got more into solo speedkills a bit so it was nice to see what I could improve on as it didn't just show damage if I recall.
Yeah, such a thing isn't inherently bad - when utilized as the other scenario, it's toxic, but without that it's totally not a problem, and likely even a benefit. Seeing improvement is super cool!
I play exclusively with randoms, it's mostly a good experience, but not always. Toxic/elitist auto call outs when you faint and rape jokes when they mount the monster etc. I have even encountered racism. The most common is by far the rape jokes for mounting, I have encountered them in every game since mounting was introduced.
This is also why I always play as host.
This is also why I always play as host.
Yeah, the lack of voice chat actually makes me want to try online lol. I'm more comfortable with the idea now.
Thank you!
A discord would be great to find certain hunts. I've read about how hard it can get to find hunts for certain monsters in GU, because there are so many monsters in that game. A discord would help with similar situations.
That's very true hahaha!
Aww... I get this, but we've all been there! Who knows, maybe you sticking around would have seen you pull off a clutch save in that final stretch and save the whole quest! I do get it though, my good friend is very much the same way. In her case it comes from playing far more toxic multiplayer games where it was the norm to get verbally put down for the smallest mistakes. I've found, in my years and years of playing the series, that the amount of times I saw someone kicked or accosted due to carts or something equally mundane... is just a tiny tiny fraction compared to allll the wonderful moments with total strangers.
