How do you use the Long Sword Helm Breaker? I don't quite understand. Do you need spirit gauge to activate it?
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Monster Hunter Rise demo impressions thread (update with new mission out now)
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Just some loose speculation on returning monsters based on some data and Japanese monster names in the demo
Jhen Mohran ("JIEN" / Jien Moran) – strings referencing ship, rock and tackle
Akantor ("AKAM" / Akamutorumu) – strings referencing ground and jump
Ukanlos ("UKAM" / Ukamurubasu) – same as above
Akantor ("AKAM" / Akamutorumu) – strings referencing ground and jump
Ukanlos ("UKAM" / Ukamurubasu) – same as above
You must be in red gauge and then use the silkbind vault attack.
You need to "level up" your guage (the outline will change color) by performing a Spirit Roundslash, which can be done as the final hit of the Spirit Slash combo or after a successful Foresight Slash. Then Helm Breaker will consume one level of that guage to work
Wirebug ZL+X when it does the kick press zr for helm breaker.
Just started playing this. Looks nice, character control is more fluid than I'm used to.
But that arrow and the damage numbers are a big nope. Can I turn those off?
But that arrow and the damage numbers are a big nope. Can I turn those off?
Monster react to your hits a lot, more than most games. It's just dependent on several factors that are essentially based around hitting thresholds like stunning, flinching, tripping, falling out of the sky, breaking horns, cutting off tails, getting paralyzed, falling asleep, getting trapped, etc. As well as them having different actions depending on the state of the fight, whether they're enraged or not, whether they still have their tail or not.
But no, they don't react to each individual hit. There's too much variation in the weapons to do it that way. And the multiplayer would probably make such a system too crazy. Having the monster flinch every time you hit it with a great sword swing would be incredibly over powered.
But you're right about needing to get used to the "rhythm", so to speak. Not many games care much about whether your weapon is drawn or sheathed for instance. And the different weapons will each have their own rhythm beyond the universal stuff. What weapon seems most interesting to you?
Jhen coming back is totally unexpected, but seeing as it's one of the few actually good siege battles and its armor is top-tier for GS, I'm not complaining!
Given what folks have found in the demo files (Capcom scrubbed a lot as far as new monsters are concerned, but a fair few vets are out and about now through either outright line confirms or their small monster counterparts being confirmed in addition to those three), the base roster is looking to be super healthy.
Given what folks have found in the demo files (Capcom scrubbed a lot as far as new monsters are concerned, but a fair few vets are out and about now through either outright line confirms or their small monster counterparts being confirmed in addition to those three), the base roster is looking to be super healthy.
Can you post a list if you have one?
Kinda? There's attacks called Silkbind Moves that are pretty similar to Hunter Arts (some of them are just straight up Hunter Arts)
Trying to make sense of the SA wirebug actions. ZL+X seems to swing and attack forward but what does ZL+A do? It doesn't attack but does a side step or something? Was kind of hoping the SA blade would have it's own set of wirebug actions too.
Handheld looks great but my hands gets so cramped holding it :(
Handheld looks great but my hands gets so cramped holding it :(
There are apparently customisable silkbite moves that replicate what were Hunter arts in GU.
This demo is excellent, and I can't wait for the final game now. Last one I played was GU, which I really enjoyed, but I wasn't too into the style system it had. So dropping that but bringing in some lite customization via wirebugs or alternate moves sounds great to me.
Love the new moves for Mizu.
Love the new moves for Mizu.
Yeah I meant any attack that let's you draw your weapon and land a hit- they are usually good ways to start combos and hit a bit harder too. You can also practice dismounting from the dog by jumping forwards and attacking as it's running, and you can do the same from a wirebug leap forward too. All ways to get in close fast, deploy your weapon and start your combos going with a heavy hit all at the same time.
The are mobility wirebug moves when the weapon is sheathed, and there are unique weapon wirebug skills called silkbinds when the weapon is drawn out.
Read through the Hunter's Notes in the pause menu. There's a section detailing every move for every weapon, including the wirebug skills. I don't use SA so I can't help with that specifically, sorry.
Need at least 1 spirit gauge, use the silk bind attack that puts you in the air and press (Spirit slash button) R or ZR depending on your settings.
I liked it in World but it was a much more technical weapon due to mobility limitations and how accurate you have to be with slow attacks.
But yeah the additions they've made make it even more enjoyable. Might be my main.
there's a lot of these on reddit. the game seems a bit buggy. but not in a bad way
These are what folks have found in the item Pastebin:
Outright confirmed:
-Nargacuga
-Zinogre
-Great Jaggi
-Volvidon
-Barroth
Small monster confirmations:
-Uroktor (meaning Agnaktor)
-Zamite (meaning Zamtrios)
-Delex (resident of the Sandy Plains, but they figure quite prominently into the Jhen Mohran fight)
Outright confirmed:
-Nargacuga
-Zinogre
-Great Jaggi
-Volvidon
-Barroth
Small monster confirmations:
-Uroktor (meaning Agnaktor)
-Zamite (meaning Zamtrios)
-Delex (resident of the Sandy Plains, but they figure quite prominently into the Jhen Mohran fight)
I have about 100 people - I'll try to prune a bit
But everyone has a weird switch nickname so i'm not sure who to cut.
Hopefully they find the bug and make it ok for the final release in a patch.
Oh that's excellent, thank you!
I will, I want to try new weapons this time around so this will save me running to Era every time I try a new weapon and need to understand the wirebug skills.
I wonder if Capcom would ever consider putting actual video tutorials for weapons directly into the game for people to watch. It feels like a really common refrain that people jump into the game, have no idea what they're doing, and either don't consult the hunter's notes at all or the notes themselves are rather vague and incomplete, which leads to a lot of questions about how to do particular moves or what certain things even do. Understanding different weapons has always been one of the series' hardest learning curve elements and it seems like they've never done a very good job of actually demonstrating the different playstyles beyond a general blurb and a few basic combo suggestions.
...I guess that's another way in which it feels similar to a lot of their fighting games, lol, although even those have a collection of player-controlled demonstrations now to show off how a lot of core attacks work.
...I guess that's another way in which it feels similar to a lot of their fighting games, lol, although even those have a collection of player-controlled demonstrations now to show off how a lot of core attacks work.
I didn't realize you needed to upgrade the gauge. I have been having trouble building it up in the demo but slowly getting better. I really had to play the beginner quest to learn the mechanics/
Really? Honestly not complaining, it's funny and it was only for a few seconds
yea, it's not the bad kind of bugs like Cyberpunk. more like the funny ones from Bethesda games before it was so overdone
Looks really nice, but man do I struggle with geometrically dense games on the Switch Lite. I would prefer this on a larger screen at twice the frame rate.
Wait, so it doesn't need to be in the red? Lol. The more you know.
The gun lance silk bind move is so cool. Attacking and reloading and aerial shots and slamming and the burst? All in one? Too cool 0:55 seconds in https://youtu.be/sb6OpciWRKA
Yup lol. Obviously red is the best as it does the most damage and white being the weakest.
Does the lance feels like World or like GU? Becuase Lance felt way better on World and was one of my favorite weapons, but in GU felt clunky and unresponsive
That's hilarious, can't complain about this, hopefully this will not only stay in the demo hahaha!
Exactly like world, but with more options! I think the range on the jump thrust may be reduced very slightly but honestly it turned out so well overall
Just pulled down Mitzutsune in a shade under 30m. Not as fast as you all-out-attack types out there but not too shabby for a lancer with aging reactions either! I reckon I'll get it down to 20-25 soon. The wirebug move to attach a silkline to them to leap straight for them is really useful for slippery characters.
If feels just like world but even better with the super mobility from the silkbind I still can't do charge from that jump, no idea how to do it, I keep 3x poking and forget to try charged sweep.
The HBG's R+A silkbind attack, Free Silkbind Glide, isn't a quick-sheathe move, so it's not "busted" it just literally isn't supposed to do that. It's entirely just a quick mobility tool, basically giving it the ability to do the usual ZL+A wirebug dash when weapons are sheathed, but while it's out instead. The cooldown for it seems about as low as the sheathed version too, so it's something you don't usually have to worry about abusing much if you're using it to evade attacks and such.
Some more data mining stuff (compiled from various sources), perhaps some stuff that was already otherwise known or might be available in the demo, I haven't been keeping up
- Further confirmation for Jhen: There is a "Counter Gong used" auto-message
- Messages indicating a photo mode of sorts ("posing for picture", "taking a picture")
- Those moves you have been hearing about are called "Switch Skills" (how original)
- NPC dialogue indicating that Apex state might return
- NPC dialogue talking about a blue serpent; Wind Serpent Ibushi (wing arms that can charge and have wind sacs)
- There's also some Thunder Serpent Narwa that Ibushi was looking for ("queen") – potentially final boss?
- Completing all arena quests will give you Feather of Mastery
- "Demo Version 2" is officially referenced
- Character Edit Voucher will apparently be a thing again
- Event quests will also be a thing again
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Please tell me there's no good games coming out in 2021 past march, because I don't think I can handle this game and other games. MH World sort of consumed my gaming time for a very long period and then Iceborne did the same. I had a lot of catching up to do after that :/ Games should really not be allowed to be as good as MHW.
Well they are pushing Stories 2 with some connectivity bonuses between both games so there's that (Stories 2 is for summer at least so theres time)
You can go straight from a silkbug leap up (ZL+X when sheathed) into a Lance charge when you hit the ground by holding down R+X+A when in the air.
the super counter (hold down ZR to guard, then A to begin your usual counter, then tap B to crouch into super counter) is amazing. Your stamina decreases rapidly but you charge up fast and can then lunge with X or poke up with A as long as you do it before stamina runs out.
Neither are in the move list in the demo but I can see both being really useful. The latter especially if you start a counter, realise there's nothing incoming, you can still drop into a stronger attack more quickly.