Monster Boy and the Cursed Kingdom |OT| Pepelogoo in Wonder World [Now on PC]

Mejilan · Dec 30, 2018

I'll see if I can find a vid on YT. I didn't get to play MWIV until it was formally translated and released on the Wii VC.
I liked it, but it wasn't my favorite MW. But I've already uninstalled MB and don't feel like digging the disc out again.
Thank you.

Edit - No 100% clear on YT. Might have to re-install and re-beat! Crap!

Mega Man Zero · Dec 30, 2018

Mejilan said:
I'll see if I can find a vid on YT. I didn't get to play MWIV until it was formally translated and released on the Wii VC.
I liked it, but it wasn't my favorite MW. But I've already uninstalled MB and don't feel like digging the disc out again.
Thank you.

Edit - No 100% clear on YT. Might have to re-install and re-beat! Crap!

Which matches up pretty closely to this.

Game Rogue · Dec 30, 2018

Completed (non 100%) on Switch this morning. Ending credit stats 35+ hours, about 70% items, with nearly 500 deaths. I'm going back in for hearts, gems, and golden armor; might as well see what I can get done at 40-hours before starting Golf Story.

Jinfash · Dec 30, 2018

Goddamn this game is so good. I don't want it to end! Definitely my GOTY.

Jimnymebob · Dec 30, 2018

Is this very Metroidvania-y, or is it still a platformer at heart?
I used to love Monster Land, and from what I played of MWIV, that was great too, but I never played the others, and I'm very picky with what Metroidvania games I like (not many). Does the cjhallenge come from creative puzzles and tricky platforming sections, or from wandering around trying to remember an odd looking block in a room 5 hours ago, while the game does it's best Super Metroid/Souls impression by not offering me any help because 'immersion'?

B. Spaceman · Dec 30, 2018

Jimnymebob said:
Does the cjhallenge come from creative puzzles and tricky platforming sections, or from wandering around trying to remember an odd looking block in a room 5 hours ago, while the game does it's best Super Metroid/Souls impression by not offering me any help because 'immersion'?

Definitely the first that you said. The focus is on platforming and solving puzzles using your different abilities, while having an interconnected world

Jimnymebob · Dec 30, 2018

B. Spaceman said:
Definitely the first that you said. The focus is on platforming and solving puzzles using your different abilities, while having an interconnected world

Right, thanks. That was what I was hoping for!

Mega Man Zero · Dec 30, 2018

Jimnymebob said:
Is this very Metroidvania-y, or is it still a platformer at heart?
I used to love Monster Land, and from what I played of MWIV, that was great too, but I never played the others, and I'm very picky with what Metroidvania games I like (not many). Does the cjhallenge come from creative puzzles and tricky platforming sections, or from wandering around trying to remember an odd looking block in a room 5 hours ago, while the game does it's best Super Metroid/Souls impression by not offering me any help because 'immersion'?

It's structured kind of like a Zelda game. There is a world connecting everything, but the main areas are separated from the world, like dungeons in Zelda. A lof of people seem to think the combat is hard, but I didn't have any problem with it. I thought the challenge was more from the puzzles. Since stuff is split into dungeons, you're never forced to remember stuff from earlier in the game to backtrack to. All the dungeons are pretty self-contained.

nooknook · Dec 30, 2018

For the life of me I can't find where to get the bomb ability.
It looks like I can't progress further in the pyramid without them.
Any tips?

entremet · Dec 30, 2018

Game is good, guys.

Mega Man Zero · Dec 30, 2018

nooknook said:
For the life of me I can't find where to get the bomb ability.
It looks like I can't progress further in the pyramid without them.
Any tips?

There's 5 magic root things in the Misty Woods area, which includes the Snake cave, so you should go back through there and see if you find a bomb.

nooknook · Dec 30, 2018

Mega Man Zero said:
There's 5 magic root things in the Misty Woods area, which includes the Snake cave, so you should go back through there and see if you find a bomb.

Thanks for the help!
Unfortunately, I can't seem to leave the temple. The jump to the exit over the main save point in the temple is too high. Even with the double jump.

Mejilan · Dec 30, 2018

Mega Man Zero said:
Which matches up pretty closely to this.

Thanks so much for posting that. I wonder what it all means? It kind of bothered me that she wasn't represented in the Sanctuary's stained glass windows. Is this game occurring at the same time as MWIV? Is that a DLC teaser? Interesting.

Mega Man Zero · Dec 30, 2018

Mejilan said:
Thanks so much for posting that. I wonder what it all means? It kind of bothered me that she wasn't represented in the Sanctuary's stained glass windows. Is this game occurring at the same time as MWIV? Is that a DLC teaser? Interesting.

My theory is that Monster Boy takes place maybe 10 years after MWIV and the girl you save at the end is Asha's daughter. Maybe Asha got trapped in the temple while looking for her and we gotta save Asha in a sequel.

Thomas Kern · Dec 31, 2018

nooknook said:
For the life of me I can't find where to get the bomb ability.
It looks like I can't progress further in the pyramid without them.
Any tips?

To get the bombs: From the main entrance in the temple (big save spot) go to the right, you'll enter the area where you can rotate the room. You need to get one room up and go through the door there. It leads to the section where you get the bomb truffle.

Steve McQueen · Dec 31, 2018

I love to buy the physical game for Switch but it's very expensive over here. Do you guys think the extras make it worth it?

entremet · Dec 31, 2018

I'm enjoying this game, but it's a bit too punishing. I'm in a later area and a few hits kill me. I know. Get good and all that. But after completing a puzzle with a little bit of health, I make it to the next section. Get killed. No checkpoint. Now I have to do the puzzle again. I know the solution now, but it's tedious.

Otherwise, it's an excellent game, but things like this annoy me.

eXistor · Dec 31, 2018

entremet said:
I'm enjoying this game, but it's a bit too punishing. I'm in a later area and a few hits kill me. I know. Get good and all that. But after completing a puzzle with a little bit of health, I make it to the next section. Get killed. No checkpoint. Now I have to do the puzzle again. I know the solution now, but it's tedious.

Otherwise, it's an excellent game, but things like this annoy me.

Normally if you do puzzle stuff it always gets saved and you don't have to redo anything. I agree that sometimes hits hit a bit too hard, but you should have proper equipment to deal with most situations.

Steve McQueen said:
I love to buy the physical game for Switch but it's very expensive over here. Do you guys think the extras make it worth it?

I think they do, the manual is very nice and reminiscent of SNES manuals. Stickers are nice, but whatever imo. The game itself is definitely worth full price; it has some crazy attention to detail and the game itself is very long but without much repetition. Very meaty and varied.

Jinfash · Dec 31, 2018

The area I struggled with the most was the Volcano, and only because I completely ignored the ice equipment. Thankfully I wised up, bought the set and fully upgraded it then it became very manageable.

The dark realm might have been too punishing until I got more comfortable with the dash.

Is there a specific area you're struggling with, entremet ?

Steve McQueen · Dec 31, 2018

eXistor said:
I think they do, the manual is very nice and reminiscent of SNES manuals. Stickers are nice, but whatever imo. The game itself is definitely worth full price; it has some crazy attention to detail and the game itself is very long but without much repetition. Very meaty and varied.

Thanks! Just watched an unboxing and it looks great!

TheKeipatzy · Dec 31, 2018

entremet said:
I'm enjoying this game, but it's a bit too punishing. I'm in a later area and a few hits kill me. I know. Get good and all that. But after completing a puzzle with a little bit of health, I make it to the next section. Get killed. No checkpoint. Now I have to do the puzzle again. I know the solution now, but it's tedious.

Otherwise, it's an excellent game, but things like this annoy me.

Sadly agree. Gave the game to my sister after the volcano. At least she enjoyed it.

#notmywonder/monsterboy

FolderBrad · Dec 31, 2018

Need help with a secret room. I've used a rainbow drop, so I know it's there.

Spoilers

In the main room of the Volcano area down by the stone mural/save point there is a gray room right above the left exit. No idea how to get there.

/Spoilers

entremet · Dec 31, 2018

Jinfash said:
The area I struggled with the most was the Volcano, and only because I completely ignored the ice equipment. Thankfully I wised up, bought the set and fully upgraded it then it became very manageable.

The dark realm might have been too punishing until I got more comfortable with the dash.

Is there a specific area you're struggling with, entremet ?

LOL. It's that area haha. Money is hard to come by, though. Another complaint!

I'm really nitpicking though. Great game, tho. I'm a Souls fan so I'm used to this lol.

Jinfash · Dec 31, 2018

entremet said:
LOL. It's that area haha. Money is hard to come by, though. Another complaint!

I'm really nitpicking though. Great game, tho. I'm a Souls fan so I'm used to this lol.

I don't know which area comes first, but if you're okay with spending a few minutes to grind gold, check out the video in this post:

Neo-Saiyan said:
I used this method to grind for money, quick and easy 👍

Neo-Saiyan · Dec 31, 2018

FolderBrad said:
Need help with a secret room. I've used a rainbow drop, so I know it's there.

Spoilers

In the main room of the Volcano area down by the stone mural/save point there is a gray room right above the left exit. No idea how to get there.

/Spoilers

That one took me a while to find as well.

If you take the top left exit above the professor, then look above the first statue you come across when you enter, you can see the edge of breakable blocks above the statue

entremet · Dec 31, 2018

This volcano, man. It never ends lol.

kyle mechlachlan · Dec 31, 2018

entremet said:
This volcano, man. It never ends lol.

I just got here and I'm halfway through it seems. Definitely a pretty big difficulty spike.

Fuzzy · Dec 31, 2018

The Volcano is only difficult if you can't afford the ice armour and missed a lot of hearts before then.

Gurgelhals · Dec 31, 2018

Mega Man Zero said:
My theory is that Monster Boy takes place maybe 10 years after MWIV and the girl you save at the end is Asha's daughter. Maybe Asha got trapped in the temple while looking for her and we gotta save Asha in a sequel.

Isn't the green-haired boy in the ending cutscene just the main character's brother transformed back into a human? The one who was a small green dragon througout the game?

Jinfash · Dec 31, 2018

Can someone help?

FolderBrad · Dec 31, 2018

Haha, scroll up a bit

Jinfash · Dec 31, 2018

FolderBrad said:
Haha, scroll up a bit

Dammit lol.

Mega Man Zero · Dec 31, 2018

Gurgelhals said:
Isn't the green-haired boy in the ending cutscene just the main character's brother transformed back into a human? The one who was a small green dragon througout the game?

You know what, I guess it is Zeke. I just thought it was the green-haired girl Pepelogoo kept talking about, because of how he snuggled him. But they show Zeke by that wall just a few seconds before that. Pepelogoo still needs to find the green-haired girl then.

entremet · Dec 31, 2018

Fuzzy said:
The Volcano is only difficult if you can't afford the ice armour and missed a lot of hearts before then.

Nah. I got the armors. It just never ends and it's the biggest difficulty spike. Plus lava, dumb annoying bat enemies. Man I don't miss it lol.

I'm in the next section after the volcano and man it is a breath of fresh air.

eXistor · Dec 31, 2018

entremet said:
This volcano, man. It never ends lol.

Make sure you (not really a spoiler, but just in case)

get the ice equipment, it helps.

/edit: oh you already did? Are you playing on hard?

On a related note, I just finished it with a 92 point something percentage. Absolutely stellar game and honestly I think I might switch around my GOTY list. I had DQXI at 1 and this at 2, but I think I'm gonna flip them around. I really have almost nothing bad to say about it; a complete joy that gets better and getter the further you get. It took me 21 hours and that seems a bit long for this type of game, but when a game continually provides the player with varied content it can take as long as it wants.

entremet · Dec 31, 2018

eXistor said:
Make sure you (not really a spoiler, but just in case)

get the ice equipment, it helps.

On a related note, I just finished it with a 92 point something percentage. Absolutely stellar game and honestly I think I might switch around my GOTY list. I had DQXI at 1 and this at 2, but I think I'm gonna flip them around. I really have almost nothing bad to say about it; a complete joy that gets better and getter the further you get. It took me 21 hours and that seems a bit long for this type of game, but when a game continually provides the player with varied content it can take as long as it wants.

I agree. This game just shot up my list.

Mikebison · Dec 31, 2018

Finished the game yesterday. Not sure if it's timing, price, people being a bit luke warm or confused by the wonder boy remake, but man, this became one of my favourite games of the year.

eXistor · Dec 31, 2018

Mikebison said:
Finished the game yesterday. Not sure if it's timing, price, people being a bit luke warm or confused by the wonder boy remake, but man, this became one of my favourite games of the year.

I know right? It's crazy good. Like I'm almost shocked. I don't wanna sound hyperbolic here, but this game deserves all the praise it can get.

AnimeJesus · Dec 31, 2018

eXistor said:
I know right? It's crazy good. Like I'm almost shocked. I don't wanna sound hyperbolic here, but this game deserves all the praise it can get.

It's a great game for sure but man that price point is disappointing, especially since you can easily 100% in under 20 hours. Similar games (Steamworld Dig 2, Hollow Knight, etc...) that are a fraction of the price offer so much more content and challenge.

andymcc · Dec 31, 2018

TheKeipatzy said:
Sadly agree. Gave the game to my sister after the volcano. At least she enjoyed it.

#notmywonder/monsterboy

this game isn't even as hard as the older Wonder Boy games.

J_ToSaveTheDay · Dec 31, 2018

Requesting a bit of help.

I'm at the Haunted Mansion, and I can't figure out how to get the mirror statue near the dual conveyor belts to stay in place on the left side of the map. I feel like I've completed all of the map so far besides this one little riddle -- I've got the Mirror Shield and I've got Pepelegoo following me around... I feel like the two major areas I can't access yet are the door behind the statue in the main hall, and the sewers next to the water pressure machine. I'm completely at a loss at what to do -- I feel like I need that statue to sit in place so it'll beam light into the main hall so I can finish the center light puzzle.

TheKeipatzy · Dec 31, 2018

andymcc said:
this game isn't even as hard as the older Wonder Boy games.

Sure if your say so...

Saw the endings, and the levels beyond. I am over it.

eXistor · Dec 31, 2018

EricOfSeattle said:
It's a great game for sure but man that price point is disappointing, especially since you can easily 100% in under 20 hours. Similar games (Steamworld Dig 2, Hollow Knight, etc...) that are a fraction of the price offer so much more content and challenge.

I'll respectfully disagree. 20 hours is not short at all and more games shold aspire to be that lenghts. Most games overstay their welcome anyway.

I think I finished Steamworld Dig 2 in 2 sittings and about 6 hours, it wasn't varied, was repetitive and it offered zero challenge. Not a bad game, but not one I hold in very high regard to be honest, certainly not compared to this. Hollow Knight I've yet to play (waiting on that physical) but I hear it's like 40 hours long. If they can fill that up in interesting ways, cool, but I've got my doubts. But we'll see. The game is 100% worth full price to me and it offered me much more than certain other hyped up games this year that overstayed their welcome by, oh 40 hours (RDR2 I'm looking at you).

Mikebison · Dec 31, 2018

EricOfSeattle said:
It's a great game for sure but man that price point is disappointing, especially since you can easily 100% in under 20 hours. Similar games (Steamworld Dig 2, Hollow Knight, etc...) that are a fraction of the price offer so much more content and challenge.

'Easily' 100% in under 20 hours. If you're using a guide. Most people will finish in about that time without being close to 100% imo.

And yeah, Hollow Knight is crazy value. But if anything, that game is under priced rather than monster boy being over priced.

andymcc · Dec 31, 2018

TheKeipatzy said:
Sure if your say so...

Saw the endings, and the levels beyond. I am over it.

if you think this game is harder than the original Wonder Boy or Monster Land, I dunno what to tell you? Nostalgia?

entremet · Dec 31, 2018

I don't mind the price at all. Hollow Knight was made by a two man team essentially.

And Hollow Knight, which I do love, is the exception here.

andymcc · Dec 31, 2018

I think this game is a lot more fun to play than Hollow Knight *shrug*

Matesamo · Dec 31, 2018

What a thing when the biggest complaint about a GOTY candidate is that it cost $40 after four years of development.

Jinfash · Dec 31, 2018

The cork puzzle in the village. WTF?!

AnimeJesus · Dec 31, 2018

eXistor said:
I'll respectfully disagree. 20 hours is not short at all and more games shold aspire to be that lenghts. Most games overstay their welcome anyway.

I think I finished Steamworld Dig 2 in 2 sittings and about 6 hours, it wasn't varied, was repetitive and it offered zero challenge. Not a bad game, but not one I hold in very high regard to be honest, certainly not compared to this. Hollow Knight I've yet to play (waiting on that physical) but I hear it's like 40 hours long. If they can fill that up in interesting ways, cool, but I've got my doubts. But we'll see. The game is 100% worth full price to me and it offered me much more than certain other hyped up games this year that overstayed their welcome by, oh 40 hours (RDR2 I'm looking at you).

Hollow Knight is on another level and not even a fair comparison, especially at $15. I completed the story at 92% after 60 hours and that's not even touching the latest free DLC. The game is filled with variety and cool secrets. Not sure why you would have doubts given the reception it's had

I also thought the physical version was cancelled.

Monster Boy and the Cursed Kingdom |OT| Pepelogoo in Wonder World [Now on PC]

Who is cuter?

Pepelogoo

Kirby

Jigglypuff

Kirby sucks

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