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Monster Boy and the Cursed Kingdom |OT| Pepelogoo in Wonder World [Now on PC]
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The issue with the original Dragon's Trap was it was slippery without the animation to show that clearly.
The remake added animation 'tells' to the slipperiness, eg showing your character slowing down after letting go, which essentially 100% fixed the game while maintaining the exact same physics.
The issue with the original was an animation+physics weak design issue, rather than slippy controls in and of themselves. Lots of other games had slippiness in that era (especially in ice levels etc) but played better due to better matching animation+physics design. The original Wonder Boy arcade game had multiple walking animations and they varied in speed so it is an example of the same physics with better tells too.
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I love all the music around the temple area so much. It's like Wonder Boy music done by a Mexican Ska and Soul band or something.
Thanks for this, I was familiar that the main games "split" in style, and I believe I played Wonder Boy in Monster World when I was a lil' baby boy, but I've been curious in the offshoots seeing as the non-Sega takes on those games essentially involve other IPs. That and the idea of spiritual takes on it always confused me. I've also been interested in Shantae, so I imagine if I like some of this, I'm gonna like a lot more.
So if I get this right, there's seven games? Wonder Boy (which has a remake), Monster Land, Monster Lair, Dragon's Trap (which has a remake), Monster World, Monster World IV, and Monster Boy?
It was Wonder Boy V: Monster World III in Japan. None of the games officially had the title Wonder Boy IV.
Yes.
Finally picked up my copy of the game.
Also have to vent a bit. The Gamestop I pre-ordered at only got two pre-orders for the physical copy, they opened mine and tried to sell it to me as a new copy but not even the insert art was new, they had obviously gutted the whole case and put a darker colored photocopy in its place. I told the guy right away that was unacceptable, I'm not buying this, got my $5 pre-order deposit back in cash, walked down to Best Buy which is in the same mall and got a proper copy of the game. I was *this* close to walking back into the Gamestop on my way back out and showing the employee what a legit, untampered new copy of a game looks like. I know selling opened copies of games is par for the course for Gamestop but I've never had them actually try to sell me an opened copy that also didn't even have the original cover insert.
Anyways, can't wait to start this. :D
Also have to vent a bit. The Gamestop I pre-ordered at only got two pre-orders for the physical copy, they opened mine and tried to sell it to me as a new copy but not even the insert art was new, they had obviously gutted the whole case and put a darker colored photocopy in its place. I told the guy right away that was unacceptable, I'm not buying this, got my $5 pre-order deposit back in cash, walked down to Best Buy which is in the same mall and got a proper copy of the game. I was *this* close to walking back into the Gamestop on my way back out and showing the employee what a legit, untampered new copy of a game looks like. I know selling opened copies of games is par for the course for Gamestop but I've never had them actually try to sell me an opened copy that also didn't even have the original cover insert.
Anyways, can't wait to start this. :D
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Where do you live? Exactly. I mean, there are so many houses in the world.....
GOT THEM ALL
From back left to back right:
Adventure Island (MSX)
Wonder Boy (SMS)
Wonder Boy in Monster Land (SMS)
Wonder Boy III: The Dragon's Trap (SMS)
Wonder Boy in Monster World (SMS)
Wonder Boy in Monster World (Genesis)
Monster World IV (Mega Drive)
Adventure Island (NES)
Wonder Boy III: Monster's Lair (Genesis)
Wonder Boy (C64)
Wonder Boy III (Game Gear)
Saiyuuki World [Wonder Boy in Monster Land] (Famicom)
The Dynastic Hero (Turbo CD)
Revenge of Drancon [Wonder Boy] Game Gear
Super Wonder Boy in Monster Land (Amiga)
Monster World Collection (PS2)
Monster Boy (Nintendo Switch)
Monster Lair (Turbo Grafx CD)
Dragon's Curse (Turbo Grafx 16)
Bikkuriman World [Wonder Boy in Monster Land] (PC Engine)
Wonder Boy: The Dragon's Trap (Nintendo Switch)
Adventure Island (PS2)
Wonder Boy (Arcade)
Wonder Boy in Monster Land (Arcade)
Wonder Boy III: Monster's Lair (Arcade)
Yep.
Dragon's Trap was not Wonder Boy III in Japan, it was just Monster World II, but starred the same Wonder Boy from Monster World 1, and was in fact the fourth game, so is pretty clearly the actual Wonder Boy IV. Hence the next game being Wonder Boy V: Monster World III.
For those confused, the series in actual order:
- Wonder Boy (not a Monster World Game)
- Wonder Boy: Monster World (western: WB in Monster Land)
- Wonder Boy III: Monster Lair (not a Monster World Game)
- Monster World II (western: Wonder Boy: The Dragon's Trap)
- Wonder Boy V: Monster World III (western: Wonder Boy in Monster World)
- Monster World IV (Wonder Girl?)
Missing the first console version, SG1000?
GOT THEM ALL
From back left to back right:
Adventure Island (MSX)
Wonder Boy (SMS)
Wonder Boy in Monster Land (SMS)
Wonder Boy III: The Dragon's Trap (SMS)
Wonder Boy in Monster World (SMS)
Wonder Boy in Monster World (Genesis)
Monster World IV (Mega Drive)
Adventure Island (NES)
Wonder Boy III: Monster's Lair (Genesis)
Wonder Boy (C64)
Wonder Boy III (Game Gear)
Saiyuuki World [Wonder Boy in Monster Land] (Famicom)
The Dynastic Hero (Turbo CD)
Revenge of Drancon [Wonder Boy] Game Gear
Super Wonder Boy in Monster Land (Amiga)
Monster World Collection (PS2)
Monster Boy (Nintendo Switch)
Monster Lair (Turbo Grafx CD)
Dragon's Curse (Turbo Grafx 16)
Bikkuriman World [Wonder Boy in Monster Land] (PC Engine)
Wonder Boy: The Dragon's Trap (Nintendo Switch)
Adventure Island (PS2)
Wonder Boy (Arcade)
Wonder Boy in Monster Land (Arcade)
Wonder Boy III: Monster's Lair (Arcade)
Reached the endboss, but not sure what to do in his third phase.
He splits into four copies, and I'm not sure what to do. Using the Frog tongue on him removes the copies, but then he throws off a full screen nuke I can't avoid and I can't even reach him to get in some hits before he's split into four again.
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Fumbling around in the dark is actually the opposite of fun.
I was having a good time until they took away my ability to see shit.
How about we make an underwater maze full of bombs where you can't see shit? Yeah, that sounds like fun!
I was having a good time until they took away my ability to see shit.
How about we make an underwater maze full of bombs where you can't see shit? Yeah, that sounds like fun!
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Only played a bit so far but the first couple of tracks have been really catchy already. :)
Loved how Dragon's Trap looked on my OLED, and this is looking really good too.
Interestingly enough when Matt made the original Shantae he didn't know about Monster World IV, fans pointed out the similarities.
I just adore this game. The music remixes pepper the soundtrack without feeling like it's leaning on them too much, and the original music is all incredible. The way your first run through an area requires a fair bit of caution and then you get an upgrade that makes you feel like a superhero against those same challenges is really cool, too.
I still can't believe how little media attention this has gotten.
I still can't believe how little media attention this has gotten.
Just did the beach missions with the Pepelogoo and first few equipment pick ups and....wow, this game is pure joy to play so far and was well worth the wait.
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Yeah, I knew it would be like this releasing right in between Pokemon and Smash Bros. Gotta go with what gets hits.
Hi Everyone, I'm happy you're all enjoying Monster Boy!
Regarding this post from Mega Man Zero:
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Please equip your prince armor for light! :D (or/and prince bracelet with additional shine)
This was fun. 😒
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Thank you so much! ^_^ Regarding the media attention: We actually got bombarded with requests from all kinds of media especially after the first reviews hit but we didn't manage to send press keys out to everyone yet (it was insane and we've been away to celebrate the launch). We can't complain and are happy with the sales so far, we didn't make this for a day but to have a classic that we hope is a must have in years to come.
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I spent all my money on the dagger. I made it through eventually. It wasn't that long. Also, spoiler tags for puzzle solutions, please. 😁
Added the spoiler tag and another one:
The armor is free, you find it in the Temple ;)
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Oh so you managed to solve the dark area in the temple 'blind too', not bad! Well, we have a system in the game that makes the armor purchaseable when you missed it in the temple.
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Yeah, that's why I was so mad when I came across yet another dark area. LOL!
Oh, very interesting. The Lizardcube guys were shy about discussing the particulars, but that makes sense.
And hey, if any fan base is okay with a bit of confused branding, it's probably Wonder Boy's.
It seems pretty limited, even here in the US. I had to try three stores before I found one with a single copy. If you want the physical version, I would import and do it soon.
I was coming to this thread just to ask a question that this answered, if it was more like Monster World 3 or 4, so happy that I decided to actually read the thread instead of just asking. Thanks for info.
Think this is going to have to come before Smash for me. Monster World 3 was my favorite in the series and these side scrolling explorable action/rpgs are my jam. Anyone know how big the map is?
Still going to have to wait till after Katamari.
The numbering for this series has always been confusing to me, lol.
However am I right in assuming the murals shown in the town are referencing...
Wonder Boy (as in the original)
Monster World 1 & 2 (this is the same character right?)
Monster World 3
Monster World 4
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However am I right in assuming the murals shown in the town are referencing...
Wonder Boy (as in the original)
Monster World 1 & 2 (this is the same character right?)
Monster World 3
Monster World 4
?
Wonder boy 1, 2, and dragons trap are all the same character, named bocke in japan and tom tom in the west. Wonder boy 3: monster lair is leo and princess purapil which takes place hundreds of years after dragons trap. Wonder boy in monster world is shion, and also takes place hundreds of years after both dragons trap and monster lair. Monster world iv is asha, and is hundreds of years after monster world.
Oh ok thanks for the clarification I was confused there cause I was thinking they skipped Monster Lair for some reason, lol.
Just wanted to say as much as I loved the reimagined visuals in the Dragon's Trap remake, I'm definitely digging Monster's Boy's graphics much more. They're just gorgeous and look like art from one of the old WB manuals come to life.
Oh man, I'll never forget reading this Gamefan import preview in high school and thinking how amazing WB IV looked and thinking I'd never get to play it since that was before I knew how easy it was to get into importing. Thank goodness for emulation and the VC release later as well.
I looked up GameFan's coverage of Monster World IV.
Oh man, I'll never forget reading this Gamefan import preview in high school and thinking how amazing WB IV looked and thinking I'd never get to play it since that was before I knew how easy it was to get into importing. Thank goodness for emulation and the VC release later as well.
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Aaaahhh this game is so good. I love the little touches, too. The idle animations, the way your character's weapons and armor change your appearance. Not all games do this and I always appreciate when they do. The music is so catchy and great, I'm having a lot of fun.
I can't figure out what to do in this room in the Volcano, probably just me being stupid.
Move that top block to the left.
Any big differences in versions? Or just get whichever is most convenient?
Thanks Aeana! By the way it's actually your comments on this game that made me pay attention to it and now I'm definitely getting it so thanks!
Thanks Aeana! By the way it's actually your comments on this game that made me pay attention to it and now I'm definitely getting it so thanks!
That's what I figured, but I can't seem to push it because it's on the very edge of the platform, so I can't get up there. I have the Lion's ability to dash straight up, but I can't dash horizontally again in the air.
I like the Dragon's Trap style more, especially from a high-level art direction standpoint, but there's no denying this turned out gorgeous, and I say that as someone who was pretty wary about the art style in earlier versions Game Atelier showed.
WB in Monster Land was one of the first games I have played, back in the 80's. Its a series that kind of faded away during the start of the 16-bit era. So its no surprise many gamers didn't play a lot of them, or at all.
I found out much later that Adventure Island was OG Wonderboy. I have to say I didn't like these games. I'm more into the RPG's like ML, DT and likely the new one.
The numbering is pretty crazy. The subtitle has its own.
WB3 looks amazing yes. But MB is new, and is far bigger. You could feel WB3 is a remake of a very old game, it plays kind of rough at first.
I've seen lets plays and there are quite some secrets, stuff you can access with the right items etc. I like that. Too bad MB isn't physical in Europe, i would've caved right away. Perhaps I should import a copy, though its out of stock about everywhere right now.
I found out much later that Adventure Island was OG Wonderboy. I have to say I didn't like these games. I'm more into the RPG's like ML, DT and likely the new one.
The numbering is pretty crazy. The subtitle has its own.
WB3 looks amazing yes. But MB is new, and is far bigger. You could feel WB3 is a remake of a very old game, it plays kind of rough at first.
I've seen lets plays and there are quite some secrets, stuff you can access with the right items etc. I like that. Too bad MB isn't physical in Europe, i would've caved right away. Perhaps I should import a copy, though its out of stock about everywhere right now.
It's one of the best games of that generation and holds up extremely well today.
It is not in any way needed to play Monster Boy, but well worth playing on its own.
Get an English version. There are several available digitally, and a fan-translated ROM as well. Don't play the import unless you speak Japanese, as it does have a good deal of dialog.
Enjoying the game so far, but am I missing something about this snake boss? It doesn't seem to be beatable with only 5 lightning bolts (which is all I've found so far), but so far the other bosses/rooms that require a specific power-up have provided more of that power-up in the same room. If I don't use the lightning bolts, the opportunities to attack seem very few and far between, especially later in the fight.
EDIT: I was missing something (and it was ultimately pretty easy)
EDIT: I was missing something (and it was ultimately pretty easy)
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