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MonolithSoft tweet promoting recruitment drive to hire production staff for the Legend of Zelda series development (BotW2)
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It's ok like for most things in life, there is a minority
you can just disagree
It is what it is. Sony will have their studios help too like Death Stranding recently. Just hope Honne will be able to get a development team one day and that will be 3 development teams for Monolith.
The amount of times that Nintendo does it to feed their own portfolio of Mario, Zelda, etc is way way more than Sony.
but I hope the same.. not just for Honne's branch, but for all of them including the X team.
What the fuck is going on here
Why are people complaining about Nintendo trusting Monolith for assisting them in their most big ass blockbuster games ever
Also lol at the "Nintendo EPD isn't enough ?". Nah.
EPD isn't even enough for the likes of Arms and Mario Kart 8, they need assist from Bandai Namco, and yet you expect them to be enough for their most AAA games ever ?
Why are people complaining about Nintendo trusting Monolith for assisting them in their most big ass blockbuster games ever
Also lol at the "Nintendo EPD isn't enough ?". Nah.
EPD isn't even enough for the likes of Arms and Mario Kart 8, they need assist from Bandai Namco, and yet you expect them to be enough for their most AAA games ever ?
My shitty crack at translating the images. I don't know all the correct technical names in English tho:
Technical Artists
(i didn't mean for those two bullet points to be bold, i just can't un-bold them lol)
Technical Artists
- Modelling Tech artist
- Rigging/animation artist
- Effects tech artist
- Character controls programmer (action)
- Environmental tools programmer
- System framework programmer
- Action Part (set piece?) planner
- Map planner (level design)
- Mission planner
- Scenario planner
- Main character designer
- Concept artist
- Character modeler
- Map modeler
- In-game animator
- Event production (the kanji makes me think this refers to cutscenes)
- Project manager
(i didn't mean for those two bullet points to be bold, i just can't un-bold them lol)
Because people thinks that a custom 3d world modeling could be found in the chips pack.
Isn't it literally the same positions like they put out in March? I think it's just a template they continue to put out. I mean some of these positions tell you that.
I can't see what all was under the positions they promoted in March, but it seems kind of...expanded? Like the general types of staff are the same (planners, gpp, tech artists) but what missions they're specifically needed for seems to have grown.
I have no idea what the recruitment looked like for BotW but based on my experience working for a AAA studio this looks...big.
Ok I found this. When they first posted what they were working on Zelda and recruiting back in March, these were the positions they put. Does it seem to match?
Yep it does lol
I guess the question is - have these remained unfilled since March, or are they just continuously staffing for them?
Guys...you understand that the more Monolith works on a game, the bigger the cut they get out of the sales of said game are, right ? Monolith helped developing successful games like Skyward Sword, Splatoon and Animal Crossing but it's only after BotW since they were so involved with the OW that they began growing steadily, the time/resources they are given to work on Xenoblade (and probably their new IP too) are way better than what they were used to with other Xeno games
They're continuously staffing. Unless they want to retain a certain size, they just want as many people as possible in those particular roles
i uh... i don't think that's correct. they're a part of nintendo, they're not getting a cut from the sales. of course it's better when the games they're helped with (animal crossing, splatoon, zelda) sell well, but it's not like they're getting a percentage.
Do we actually have confirmation this action rpg fantasy game exists instead of just speculation? Like is there an actual quote from Monolith acknowledging they are working on something other than Xenoblade or zelda?
They still have their arpg page up, in a dedicated space like their Xenoblade and Zelda pages
急募アクションゲーム開発経験者スタッフ積極採用中！｜採用情報｜株式会社モノリスソフト
モノリスソフトのブランドイメージとは異なる意欲的なプロジェクト。アクションゲーム開発経験者を募集しております。
www.monolithsoft.co.jp
They still have their arpg page up, in a dedicated space like their Xenoblade and Zelda pages
急募アクションゲーム開発経験者スタッフ積極採用中！｜採用情報｜株式会社モノリスソフト
モノリスソフトのブランドイメージとは異なる意欲的なプロジェクト。アクションゲーム開発経験者を募集しております。
Good to know. I was getting a bit worried because of that quote which said the only thing Nintendo would greenlight is Xenoblade. I don't think this project would be Xenoblade if its an action rpg.
I think people are taking Takahashi at face value a bit too much, he also said he wasn't sure if the Xenoblade franchise was continuing when they were already working on Xenoblade 2.
To me it seems clear that part of nintendo's plan for HD development was/is to grow Monolith Kyoto as an all-round support studio for all of their first party games. The EPD studios contain the directors/main producers and the staff that lays out the core gameplay and Monolith Kyoto assisting where needed (together with external partners like Bandai Namco and Koei Tecmo).
2020 dream is still alive until Nintendo says it's dead.
These are all positions that can easily come once a game is far into development.
I'm veering into speculation now but actually I wouldn't be surprised if the artistic direction changes quite a bit from what we saw in the E3 teaser, since the character designs felt more like placeholders
These are all positions that can easily come once a game is far into development.
I'm veering into speculation now but actually I wouldn't be surprised if the artistic direction changes quite a bit from what we saw in the E3 teaser, since the character designs felt more like placeholders
The difference between this and the March 2019 recruitment drive is that they're hiring freelancers. They were hiring for full-time employees with experience back in March. Nintendo/MS typically hires freelancers toward the tail-end of development, so whatever Zelda project MS is working on must be nearing completion.
Q4 2020 might still happen but "Concept art designer" and "map modeler" a year out seems a bit unrealistic... so yeah probably mid to late 2021.
Unless they're hiring for a different Zelda game.
Ooooooh......
They've hired so many people since March. I'm pretty sure it's just a blanket. They just want to continue hiring for all positions. They've definitely hired for some of these. They just want more.
The translation in English says they're working on something they've never done with their brand. It's a a completely new IP.
Care to explain why the action RPG recruitment page is still up 9 months after the Zelda recruitment page went live? If it no longer existed, don't you think the page would've been at least wiped out in one of the earlier updates?
why can't people understand THIS ISNT NEW. Do you think they need these some of these positions now for BotW 2? They've literally developed BotW 2 for over 2 years now. It's just a template of positions they're continuously hiring at Monolith. The game has a very high chance coming 2020. This is just them wanting more people for any position now and future Zelda games
The only thing new is the freelancer positions
It looks like a push to make a 2020 release methinks. Otherwise, it wouldn't look like a manic push to throw as many resources at it to get it completed by then.
i'm still #team2020.
btw they could already be thinking about dlc and whatnot and be hiring for that.
btw they could already be thinking about dlc and whatnot and be hiring for that.
I always thought Monolith was not working on BotW 2 since it started out as DLC. The open world tech is already done just needs more content which I assume EPD can handle themselves.
So this recruitment is probably for the next project
you think it's gonna be the same exact hyrule, and that's it? they will for sure design new open areas to explore.
You think this Zelda recruitment is probably for the next Zelda game after BotW 2?
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Monolith has 3 or 4 projects going at the same time right now and is on their 3rd generation of Switch software of their own stuff, they are absolutely showing a ton of output this generation, not just xenoblade and support, but within the next 18 months or so, they will have this title out in the wild too.
I'm hoping that this leads to a lot of open world development. My main concern is that BOTW2 is either going to be a) same map but altered a bit, b) underground in enclosed areas (unless they make underground feel like overground).
My hope is that the very brief shot of Hyrule Castle levitating at the end of the clip is the start of it being taken to a completely new land.
My hope is that the very brief shot of Hyrule Castle levitating at the end of the clip is the start of it being taken to a completely new land.
I think this is overblown. They are still working their own series and at least one of those is supposedly a new property. They've worked to support core Nintendo titles for years now so this isn't something new or outlandish. They continue to grow and expand the scope of their projects, this includes Xenoblade, Zelda, and new stuff too. I don't see the issue
Yeah, I don't think that's an unreasonable interpretation? Nintendo is obviously always thinking ahead and if BotW 2 is releasing next year they're probably prepping for the next-gen Zelda at least.
I would love a whole new open world but considering it's a direct sequel I have feeling it'll mostly be the same with new areas. Probably dungeons. Which EPD could handle themselves I think with some minor support from Monolith.
That's just how I thought of it.
Nintendo really wants that 2020 release for BOTW2.
At least we have XCDE next year as well. Hoping for that new MS IP in 2021.
At least we have XCDE next year as well. Hoping for that new MS IP in 2021.
I already said this earlier. This Zelda recruitment is for BotW 2 and future Zelda projects. They posted this recruitment back in March, except for the freelancers which is new.
To me this is just a general Zelda recruitment and that's why they didn't specify it's for "BotW 2".
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We can thank Monolith Soft for BotW. If Nintendo didn't own Monolith (this is why owning studios and expanding first party is good) we would've never got BotW most likely.
I kind of understand your point, and I still are slightly mad at Nintendo (or Monolith who knows) for rushing Xc2 and developing it with a really small team. And yeah BotW is my favorite game ever.
But as Monolith has been hiring nonstop the last months, I think their next project will have more resources and hopefully we won't have another Xc2 situation again.
I hope that the XC DE development doesn't use too much time or resources and that they are at the same time involved in something new that is not related to Xenoblade.
We won't have an early XC2 situation anymore because MS has already said that they have gotten better at implementing the Switch hardware, that was already seen in Torna which looks and runs better than base XC2. XCDE is supposedly going to look even better than that.
Monolith has grown nearly 100 people more since BotW released. They've had INSANE growth. If Nintendo only pulls the same amount of people they used for BotW, Monolith will have wayyyy more people for their own internal game development. Xenoblade Chronicles 3 or whatever the next Xenoblade game is should not be short handed
Xc2's problem was not only a matter of hardware knowledge, the game had a day one patch fixing the menus and several patches during the first months fixing lots of QoL problems, they decided to launch the game on Switch's first year and this was the main reason they had no time to polish lots of rough things in the game. I'm optimistic that their next project will be better managed, but as they are current working in BotW and XC DE, I hope they give time to their new project instead of deciding in a unrealistic release date.
I also doubt yet another rushed game will happen since they're not going to be forced to release a title on a console launch year again (that's until Switch 2 happens at least).
I imagine a big part of the reason XCDE exists is to onboard new staff and give more time to prepare for bigger projects behind the scenes.
Yes. This is how I saw it. They hire so many new graduates. Doing XenoblaDE is great for their experience