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duckroll

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I still find it funny just how thoroughly Shion has been replaced by KOS-MOS as the Xenosaga MC in the public consciousness
I don't think this is accurate? The face of Xenosaga has always been KOS-MOS from the start. There is no replacement. Shion was always only meant to be the main protagonist representing the first era of Xenosaga. KOS-MOS and chaos are the two entities which are eternal and would carry to all other episodes. Obviously the first era ended up being the only Xenosaga story they ever told, but KOS-MOS was front and center from the start. She's the toy in the Japanese limited edition boxes on the first two episodes, she is the one on the cover of all the games, and she was always the one most heavily featured in all the trailers. There has never been a time even when Xenosaga was freshly announced, where anyone associated Xenosaga with Shion over KOS-MOS. Being a protagonist and being the face of a franchise are different things. Ash is the protagonist of many Pokemon games, Pikachu is the face of Pokemon.
 

Procheno

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2 extra enployes but 6 more girls compared to last count? So at least 4 guys left the company
Could be that internships expired or like you said, they left because they're young fresh graduates and want to explore

Or maybe they sucks and got fired :P

I'm not a fan of this artist. Their eyes look like dead puppet eyes

Reminds me of this:

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Definitely the worst looking Shulk imo. Also everyone's faces in the art looks childish
 

NSESN

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so, with the pro rumors, trailer at e3 or not? A new xeno game could work well as a showcase
 

Procheno

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But this is easily the best looking Shulk model and I hope all future Xeno games use this art style. This is the art work finally perfected in 3D
Eyes aside, Shulk looks better in XC2 than XC or XCDE to me. The materials blow the other two games away.
Face is better in XBDE. Eyes, skin shading, nose, eyebrows, hair, expressions. Clothes, shoes, etc of Shulk's default original outfit are better in XBC2 definitely.

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I love the art style development progress done on the faces in Definitive Edition. Just a perfect balance of XB2 and XB1. Plus the enhanced development on the engine added things like good quality depth of field which helped a ton in cutscenes. Kinda baffling that they didn't update the textures in Shulk's iconic default outfit though lol
 
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Face is better in XBDE. Eyes, facial structure, skin shading, nose, eyebrows, hair, expressions. Clothes, shoes, etc of Shulk's default original outfit are better in XBC2 definitely.

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I love the art style development progress done on the faces in Definitive Edition. Just a perfect balance of XB2 and XB1. Plus the enhanced development on the engine added things like good quality depth of field which helped a ton in cutscenes. Kinda baffling that they didn't update the textures in Shulk's iconic default outfit though lol

Hmm, I guess looking at them side by side, I see what you mean

I think we can all agree Monolithsoft has definitely finally figured out how to properly translate their art to 3D models after whatever happened with X (which I love, but those characters were ugly af)
 

NioA

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So, do you guys think we'll see something about their next game in two weeks? I really couldn't imagine a better occasion at this point, it's either this or september direct.
 

Procheno

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Hmm, I guess looking at them side by side, I see what you mean

I think we can all agree Monolithsoft has definitely finally figured out how to properly translate their art to 3D models after whatever happened with X (which I love, but those characters were ugly af)
Absolutely, just compare all those screenshots to.... these

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It makes me excited to see what they'll do next and how it's gonna look, especially with the Super Switch oooo
 

King Kingo

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Monolith Soft must have a stake in the Xenosaga IP for KOS-MOS to still be appearing in their recruitment art, which in turn, explains why Bandai Namco doesn't see a remaster of the Xenosaga trilogy to be profitable if Nintendo has a stake in the series via Monolith Soft.

No offence to the artist but there's so many fans out there who can illustrate these characters so much better than this... I'm still happy that we got new Monolith Soft art.
 

ILikeFeet

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Monolith Soft must have a stake in the Xenosaga IP for KOS-MOS to still be appearing in their recruitment art, which in turn, explains why Bandai Namco doesn't see a remaster of the Xenosaga trilogy to be profitable if Nintendo has a stake in the series via Monolith Soft.
nah, Bamco owns Xenosaga completely. Takahashi just loves him some robot girls

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"What do you mean I don't count? I got my own stand alone game!"
you dead tho
 

evilmonkey

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Monolith Soft must have a stake in the Xenosaga IP for KOS-MOS to still be appearing in their recruitment art, which in turn, explains why Bandai Namco doesn't see a remaster of the Xenosaga trilogy to be profitable if Nintendo has a stake in the series via Monolith Soft.
They don't. Everything from Xenosaga is fully owned by Bamco. The reason they won't move forward with a remaster is the series doesn't have a future without Monolith (who are on Nintendo's payroll) and it was never big enough to warrant a remaster to begin with.

The art is just a way of acknowledging their past. They've already moved on to much greener pastures.
 

TheGreatLugia

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Monolith Soft must have a stake in the Xenosaga IP for KOS-MOS to still be appearing in their recruitment art, which in turn, explains why Bandai Namco doesn't see a remaster of the Xenosaga trilogy to be profitable if Nintendo has a stake in the series via Monolith Soft.
Namco is in the copyright for this artwork like they were for the studio's 20th anniversary artwork.
 

Semajer

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I wonder if it means anything that they used the Xenosaga design rather than the Xenoblade one.
 

Vito

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I will buy anything you want Monolith just include Pyra and Mythra.
 

King Kingo

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nah, Bamco owns Xenosaga completely. Takahashi just loves him some robot girls

They don't. Everything from Xenosaga is fully owned by Bamco. The reason they won't move forward with a remaster is the series doesn't have a future without Monolith (who are on Nintendo's payroll) and it was never big enough to warrant a remaster to begin with.

The art is just a way of acknowledging their past. They've already moved on to much greener pastures.

Namco is in the copyright for this artwork like they were for the studio's 20th anniversary artwork.

Thanks for clarifying. KOS-MOS is the character who started it all for Monolith Soft so I suppose she deserves the spotlight.

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He will not be forgotten.

Xenogears was legally developed under Square's development division so Monolith Soft can't even use Fei to promote Monolith Soft if they wanted to.
 

Morlas

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I will buy anything you want Monolith just include Pyra and Mythra.
Well of any of the main casts from either Xenoblade they're probably the most likely to show up in a future game since they're functionally ageless and they presumably wouldn't return to their core crystals even after Rex dies
 

King Kingo

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Xenoblade Chronicles 3 being revealed with the new iteration of the Nintendo Switch would be reminiscent of Xenoblade Chronicles 2 being revealed with the original Nintendo Switch.
 

Hikari

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I've always speculated that KOS-MOS will be big in Monolith's future and maybe a important character in Xenoblade 3. I think the 10th anniversary Xenoblade art with the Zohar convinced me tbh. Also, I'm legit curious why they chose her V4 form from Xenosaga and not XB2 iteration. I think this HAS to mean something. V4 KOS-MOS has not gotten new art in years.
 

4859

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I've always speculated that KOS-MOS will be big in Monolith's future and maybe a important character in Xenoblade 3. I think the 10th anniversary Xenoblade art with the Zohar convinced me tbh. Also, I'm legit curious why they chose her V4 form from Xenosaga and not XB2 iteration. I think this HAS to mean something. V4 KOS-MOS has not gotten new art in years.

Even kos mos is not powerful enough to overcome the most powerful force in existance.....

Copywriters lawyers.
 

Dnomla

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It's always so nice to see the whole Xeno crew together in official art. And seeing KOS-MOS so prominently displayed gives me too much hope for a Xenosaga remaster, or even crazier, Xenoblade 3 being a sequel to Xenosaga and Xenoblade 1/2, because it would fit so well. Or the craziest yet, we're getting Xenosaga Episode IV

Their new game can't come soon enough.

Xenoblade Chronicles 3 being revealed with the new iteration of the Nintendo Switch would be reminiscent of Xenoblade Chronicles 2 being revealed with the original Nintendo Switch.
This is what I'm thinking. No better time to show it off.
 

Quinton

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SE is holding him hostage. they still haven't sent their terms
SE: Doesn't look like anything to me.

;_;

Xenogears was legally developed under Square's development division so Monolith Soft can't even use Fei to promote Monolith Soft if they wanted to.

That won't stop me from trying...!