-
Ever wanted an RSS feed of all your favorite gaming news sites? Go check out our new Gaming Headlines feed! Read more about it here.
-
We have made minor adjustments to how the search bar works on ResetEra. You can read about the changes here.
Modded Skyrim looks great, will next gen TES look better?
- Thread starter Deleted member 721
- Start date
Will a modded game that has its roots in 2011 and the PS3/360 tech era be inferior to a game powered by a Zen 2/13 TF equivalent machine more than a decade later?
Yes. Yes, it will. I don't know what some people are smoking to be saying otherwise, but c'mon people. Be serious.
Yes. Yes, it will. I don't know what some people are smoking to be saying otherwise, but c'mon people. Be serious.
Eh it's relative to what card you're using.
If you have a 1080ti, you can still hold a variable 60 outdoors. Interiors are no problem, saving for having to cap the frame rate at 90 in order to keep the physics from freaking out.
There's a few mods out there that make the combat work more similarly to Dark Souls. I've found it can't save melee combat entirely, but it does help.
Honestly, if you're not playing Skyrim like a shooter, you're gonna have a bad time.
If Bethesda has a brain in their collective skulls they will. Mods are the only reason Skyrim continues to sell in the later half of this decade. Without them, it would have been left behind in 2012.
Yeah you can find a lot of combat stuff too. It's probably not going to change a lot of the feel (Skyrim will feel janky in combat, it's how it is). Unlike Fallout a lot of the combat is melee with no VATs crutch. The only gun is crossbows, maybe there's a gun or hand cannon mod though but no mod rework like Fallout had built around making the ranged combat feel totally different and more in line with what gamers are used to. I'm trying to think of the Fallout Rework mod (it was huge) but I can't remember it. I know it was Fallout because it redid a lot of the gun gameplay.
Many of the Skyrim Magic overhauls turn the game into a similar style shooter like Fallout.
I have never played a Bethesda game for the graphics. Let me know when BDO lets me rob literally everyone, has houses I can sneak into that can get me arrested if caught, NPCs that I can interact with beyond looking at them, etc. etc. etc.
Bethesda games are beloved for reasons far FAR beyond their visuals.
Yes, no doubt, but how it looks is the least of my concerns about the game. It's nowhere on my list.
smileylaughing.jpeg
honestly, im not so sure about that, at least not the animations
As far as I'm concerned Bethesda games are PC exclusive, even the Xbox mods are limited. No script extenders, GB limits, etc.
Whoa whoa whoa, I was just comparing the visuals to modded Skyrim. In multiplayer MMORPGs the graphics are usually simplified to compensate for lot of characters, players, and open worlds yet this game still looks as good as a modded Skyrim (better to me). I don't think TES has anything to worry about when it comes to SP RPG and BDO. TES on next gen, and single player? It should be able to crush BDO in graphics (which is what this thread is about, how the next TES compare to Skyrim fully modded).
I do hope the next TES makes sneaking more like Oblivion though. I loved stealing everything, and robbing castles blind in that, then taking it all to a fence for money. Also clearing whole dungeons with stealth attacks, but in Skyrim it doesn't seem to work as good, Fallouts as well. You're so easily detected.
Last edited:
The animation system is being replaced, as well as the physics system, Todd said so in an interview like 2 years ago.
They can make it look as nice as they want, but I better still look like a stiff dumbass once the fighting starts like always or I'm OUT.
Don't we already know that TES VI is using photogrammetry and face scans to create environmental and character assets? If so it should certainly look like much bigger of a leap than Oblivion to Skyrim was, let alone vanilla Skyrim to modded Skyrim.
The problem with this conversation is that you can't separate systems and visuals. They don't exist in a vacuum for the same reason that nobody is making an open world game with visuals and animation on par with like Uncharted. The hardware needs to make a game as reactive as a Bethesda title look as good as something like BDO while still being able to run well(which is always the problem with these mods people like to showcase. Yeah you can make that shit look amazing if all you want to do is screenshots) on top of everything else (interacting with objects, theft, law enforcement, npc behavioral reaction, ALL of this kind of shit is absolutely non-negotiable for being in the game) is staggering.
But I entirely agree with you that they need to turn back the clock on their gameplay systems a bit. I liked harder lockpicking and faster running based on athleticism. I don't think someone wearing Heavy Armor should get to sprint at the same speed as a thief in a cloth jumpsuit.
Though I am also one of the people who can literally get the same game in a new setting and I'm good. Visual fidelity has never been a selling point for me, and it especially never will be with a Bethesda Game Studios RPG.
I just can't stand the art direction in those games and I doubt another generational leap will be enough to fix that.
my problem with most of skyrim mods was they never updated the road textures to do tesselation or parralax, so i took it upon myself to update this, because when u start adding graphic mods the road textures really stand out as horrible without it
this is with
this is without
those two pictures are literally exactly the same mods apart from the first one is using the new roads tweak i made (obvs different time of day hence color differences )
i havent got another comparison but heres another really nice skyrim modded screen i took
this is with
this is without
those two pictures are literally exactly the same mods apart from the first one is using the new roads tweak i made (obvs different time of day hence color differences )
i havent got another comparison but heres another really nice skyrim modded screen i took
Yeah the Granny Skyrim video where they scanned her face, showed it, and showed off the rocks and such for a desert looking environment.
At the least I'll be glad to see Granny Skyrim (Shirley Curry) in game even if it turns out looking (but running better) than a fully modded out Skyrim.
I'd rather they focus on making the game feel better to play, than to outdo modded game visuals.
Will Vanilla ES6 look better than modded Skyrim? Maybe. Modded Skyrim can look really fantastic with enough mods and BGS isn't really known for making particularly pretty games.
Will modded ES6 look better than modded Skyrim. Without a doubt.
Honestly, when it comes to visuals I'm more worried that they'll stick with vanilla Skyrim's boring gray artstyle instead of going for something more colourful and interesting. That being said, visuals are the least of my concerns with ES6.
Will modded ES6 look better than modded Skyrim. Without a doubt.
Honestly, when it comes to visuals I'm more worried that they'll stick with vanilla Skyrim's boring gray artstyle instead of going for something more colourful and interesting. That being said, visuals are the least of my concerns with ES6.
A few months ago they had a video about the Skyrim "grandma" and they showed something with photogeometrey or something. The same thing has been used for Battlefront and Forza. So at least they'll have that hopefully and that should make a big improvement.
Fairly well not quite as nice looking. There has been no case for a previous Elderscrolls title maxed out with full graphical overhaul mods looking better than the next one. Such was the case from Morrowind to Oblivion, and Oblivion to Skyrim.
This is coming from someone who has well over 1000 hours for all three Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim. for a combined 3000+ hours across the three.
I mean sure there are some caveats here and there, but the biggest thing are lighting technologies. Skyrim has much more natural lighting compared to the Bloom heavy Oblivion, and even Skyrim SE is a bit better than regular Skyrim when you factor the new Godrays and fog effects.
I think the next elder Scrolls will look quite a bit better then skyrim with mods, the only thing impressive in those videos is the amount of vegetation, the lighting, polycount and character models are still contrained by 512mb ram + 240gflop gpu.
Even fallout 4 looks better and that's current gen.
It has one ace over Skyrim which is native pom/parallax support. For some reason they removed it from Skyrim, and the only way to get it is hacking it in via ENB. Unfortunately not even Skyrim SE ENB supports parallax hacking.
In Oblivion it's as simple as enabling a flag in the mesh files and then texture mods can take full advantage of it to add a lot more depth to the environments.
Here's a texture overhaul I made for the prison tileset which adds parallax to a lot of the surfaces
Keep in mind the fully modded Skyrim has no limitation on character models per console spec. Model replacements exist. And typically higher polycounts are notwithstanding considering mesh and texture replacements part of a replaced model.
Even with a new skeleton animation mods, like XP32 for example, there isn't much of a limit the biggest thing is character animations and hardcoded lighting effects.
A newer Elder Scrolls game should focus on better quality animations and lighting. As in the case modders can handle the rest, but for the sake of a straight graphics comparison. Vanilla ES6 should look better by some degree of margin than modded graphics Skyrim.
I mean if they can include things like global illumination and photogrammary for character models and static objects like landscape and building textures, then at that point they would be at a far better starting point.
No doubt about it.
Bethesda managed to create some of the best looking open world games with Oblivion and Skyrim on last gen consoles. Not so much on PC but they shifted their focus away from PC after Morrowind anyway.
Bethesda managed to create some of the best looking open world games with Oblivion and Skyrim on last gen consoles. Not so much on PC but they shifted their focus away from PC after Morrowind anyway.
Yeah I've seen some replacement characters and they look on par with current gen ones, but I doubt they will be as good as next gen ones, next gen models will look better then current gen ones.
Maybe not, Bethesda seems incredibly averse to taking the time and money to build something new that would support such a bump. Sure FO76 looks better than FO4 but it bloody well should considering the time between releases. I'm still bitter FO4 looked like such a lemon at launch, interiors with the lack of overworld quality lighting made it look like the last gen entries. Truly a wtf moment if there ever was one in gaming, almost all Bethesda releases looked nice at release, maybe not cutting edge but certainly a noticeable improvement over what came before. I remember friends used to update their gpus for things like Morrowind and Oblivion releases. FO4 felt like the start of "we don't wanna spend the money" and I see it hasn't improved much since.
As an aside anytime I see these mega mod list videos from Skyrim I can't help but wonder why there isn't a more streamlined process for creating some system through one of the mod managers where you can feed it a file that includes download info for each of the mods a certain person uses so you can just download and apply it all in the requisite load order. I've never had the patience to download these laundry lists of mods people use. If there IS something like what I'm looking for please tell me, it'd be nice to experience some of these myself without having to spend an hour plus downloading dozens of mods and applying them all manually in a mod manager /rant
As an aside anytime I see these mega mod list videos from Skyrim I can't help but wonder why there isn't a more streamlined process for creating some system through one of the mod managers where you can feed it a file that includes download info for each of the mods a certain person uses so you can just download and apply it all in the requisite load order. I've never had the patience to download these laundry lists of mods people use. If there IS something like what I'm looking for please tell me, it'd be nice to experience some of these myself without having to spend an hour plus downloading dozens of mods and applying them all manually in a mod manager /rant
that's super saturated, that godray is making the sun glimmering, lakes and rivers are swimming pools
Unfortunately. There's a difference between not liking them, and deliberately being obtuse. I myself am soured after 4/76 and Starfield will be the make or break moment for me, but it should be obvious to everyone, hater or no. People should be able to not like something and yet still be able to reach some conclusions objectively. Sad that they can't.
Given what he said about Fallout 76, I am surprised that anyone would simply take him at his word. IIRC he also said that Fallout 4 was being developed on a brand new engine.
There is a good reason why "Sweet little lies" featuring Todd Howard exists.
Bethesda has great artists and that's their only saving grace on the visual front. As for the rest I will believe it when it I see proper preview vids circa after 2020.
