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FUME5

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Just had a look at Whittakers facebook, he started mat training last week.

Also, looks like he's going to be regularly twitch streaming on Saturdays lol.
 

BLOODED_hands

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Yeah he had that sponsorship with Bethesda so he's probably going to play the latest Bethesda games. Probably going to be playing FO76 and ESO his with viewers (if he gets enough viewers that is).

Mighty Mouse gets about 10-100s of viewers the last time I watched his stream.
 

VoxPop

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Oct 30, 2017
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UFC 239

Bones x Thiago Santos

Holm x Nunes

There were Bones Stipe rumors swirling and was the better fight imo but looks like they settled on Santos

Also

Marlon Moraes x Henry Cejudo for vacant 135 title

Woodley x Lawler II
 

Chessguy1

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Watch this video.

Luke breaks down the UFC's deal with ESPN+.

UFC is guaranteed about 500,000 buys in PPV sales $$ in licensing fees from ESPN+, then if it sells a certain threshold it gets a cut too. To simplify, every PPV will be selling 500k, but paid from ESPN in licensing fees.

Basically, UFC is getting paid no matter how PPVs do. Even big daddy conor has little leverage when the UFC is receiving these massive licensing fees.
 
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Syder

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I just hope Santos doesn't rest on his laurels like Smith.

The only way these LHWs under Jones have a chance is to take the fight to him and hope for the upset. I don't need to see Jon beat on a poor guy for 5 rounds.
 

Riskbreaker

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I just hope Santos doesn't rest on his laurels like Smith.

The only way these LHWs under Jones have a chance is to take the fight to him and hope for the upset. I don't need to see Jon beat on a poor guy for 5 rounds.
Easy to say when you aren't getting punched in the face.

I know steroids, and general piece of shit, but he's a good fighter when it's all said and done. He neutralizes strengths and pulls you into his game. Most of the division isn't honestly good enough to dictate the pace.

I don't expect Santos to do well. We shall see, this has been a year of upsets so far.
 

Wamapoke

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So DJ could have stayed if the profit is guaranteed from ESPN. We're also gonna see more main events like Schevchenko v Eubanks. Not fun.
 

Rygar1126

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I know Borg is dealing with a lot regarding his son, but c'mon dude.

He went up in weight and still managed to miss. That's Rumble Johnson-esque lol
 

SnakeXs

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Easy to say when you aren't getting punched in the face.

I know steroids, and general piece of shit, but he's a good fighter when it's all said and done. He neutralizes strengths and pulls you into his game. Most of the division isn't honestly good enough to dictate the pace.

I don't expect Santos to do well. We shall see, this has been a year of upsets so far.
Exactly. And he's not one to crack under pressure. He's taken shots and maintained composure. He's never been knocked out. I can barely recall any knockdowns, even. I hate him, but he's talented, composed, smart with an even smarter team in his corner (namely Jackson who is seemingly done with most MMA outside of Jones), sticks to gameplans but adjusts properly.

He's a scary fight for anyone. Marty-level wrestling, or a puncher's chance is your best shot. A puncher's chance against a smart, lengthy fighter. Yeaaaaah.
 

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Askren - Masvidal is a bad matchup for the disillusioned pirate but there is really no one else in the top 10 for him.
Usman vs Askren is also pretty interesting and Askren with a belt would be the most hilarious outcome and I would love
to see Dana put the belt on him in the ring.

Is 170 the division where the wrestlers are the most dominant in terms of belt reign?
Hughes/GSP/Hendricks - Lawler excemption - Woodley/Usman all very heavy on the wrestling.
 

Riskbreaker

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Exactly. And he's not one to crack under pressure. He's taken shots and maintained composure. He's never been knocked out. I can barely recall any knockdowns, even. I hate him, but he's talented, composed, smart with an even smarter team in his corner (namely Jackson who is seemingly done with most MMA outside of Jones), sticks to gameplans but adjusts properly.

He's a scary fight for anyone. Marty-level wrestling, or a puncher's chance is your best shot. A puncher's chance against a smart, lengthy fighter. Yeaaaaah.
He out wrestled Cormier, who is on par with Askren in the wrestling department. And I kind of think a punchers chance is dumb to bet on, I mean that's like what every fighter outside of maybe Askren has.

Honestly there are two things that will beat Jones. Father time, in the future, or himself right now.
 

SnakeXs

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Askren - Masvidal is a bad matchup for the disillusioned pirate but there is really no one else in the top 10 for him.
Usman vs Askren is also pretty interesting and Askren with a belt would be the most hilarious outcome and I would love
to see Dana put the belt on him in the ring.

Is 170 the division where the wrestlers are the most dominant in terms of belt reign?
Hughes/GSP/Hendricks - Lawler excemption - Woodley/Usman all very heavy on the wrestling.
How many champs don't have a solid wrestling base these days? Even if it's not collegiate or offensive, it's necessary to have it as a threat and/or keeping the fight where you want it (a la Woodley). Max is the only male standout, really, and his TD def is over 80%. (Whitaker's is even higher). Look at the rest. DC, Jones, Cejudo, Usman, Khabib.
 

Camwi

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How many champs don't have a solid wrestling base these days? Even if it's not collegiate or offensive, it's necessary to have it as a threat and/or keeping the fight where you want it (a la Woodley). Max is the only male standout, really, and his TD def is over 80%. (Whitaker's is even higher). Look at the rest. DC, Jones, Cejudo, Usman, Khabib.
I think he was pointing out the history of the WW division rather than all the modern champions of various weight classes.
 

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How many champs don't have a solid wrestling base these days? Even if it's not collegiate or offensive, it's necessary to have it as a threat and/or keeping the fight where you want it (a la Woodley). Max is the only male standout, really, and his TD def is over 80%. (Whitaker's is even higher). Look at the rest. DC, Jones, Cejudo, Usman, Khabib.
Yeah I agree. Just thought it was interesting that 170 has had a lot of champs where wrestling is their main skill. Most other divisions are a bit more all over the place.
 
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Syder

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I assume Casey Kenney won't take the forfeiture from Borg's purse for the missed weight because of Ray's well-publicised issues with his son

or maybe I'm way off base and Borg is just completely unprofessional and deserves to lose the 30%
 

Masoyama

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I assume Casey Kenney won't take the forfeiture from Borg's purse for the missed weight because of Ray's well-publicised issues with his son

or maybe I'm way off base and Borg is just completely unprofessional and deserves to lose the 30%

He missed weight like 3 times at 125. Then goes up to 135 and then misses weight again? There's more wrong with his cut than just his size.
 

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