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MLB The Show 21 | Review Thread
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But I mean that wouldn't make sense. Game isn't going through a service on the PS side. It's going through normal means of purchase.
Gamepass wasn't even in play. Sony had no idea it would land there when development started
The amount of people that switched to xbox or refuse to purchase a game that's on another platform for free is worth considering.
Are you for real? LMFAO
Sony didn't know this was going on GAMEPASS when they stated development.
But they finished development knowing the game would be given away for free?
Are you trolling? These games have a defined budget and they are made in 12 months by reusing ton of stuff, thinking that they had to cut stuff or make it worse because they knew aboutt GAMEPASS 3 weeks before launch is some dumb conspiracy theory.
"Given away for free" is extremely disingenuous. And frankly sounds like some platform war bullshit
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Damn, I play MLB the show exclusively for RttS. This kills my interest in this series, fuck.
First it was 2K and now the show. I guess I'm just not the target audience for these sports games anymore.
I don't understand the hate on next gen 2k21. Speaking as an offline only player, the changes they made were fantastic.
Before people started blaming Xbox? The game was designed the way it was designed. Platforms had nothing to do with that
I know. I was referring to GP more specifically getting the blame for the poor aspects showing in the game.
Yeah, I feel the exact same way. my excitement levels are waaaay lower now.
I'm still confused over the RTTS / DD loadouts....
Read up here https://realsport101.com/mlb-the-sh...how-features-trailer-positions-personalities/
and here
www.operationsports.com
Is it 100% confirmed that you MUST play DD to progress your player? Like is it similar to NBA 2K where buying VC is mandatory unless you want to grind for 100s or hours?
Man I'm just happy this is on GPU.
Read up here https://realsport101.com/mlb-the-sh...how-features-trailer-positions-personalities/
and here
MLB The Show 21 Road to the Show and Ballplayer Details Revealed
MLB The Show 21 Road to the Show and Ballplayer details have been revealed in this latest feature premiere from SDS.
www.operationsports.com
Is it 100% confirmed that you MUST play DD to progress your player? Like is it similar to NBA 2K where buying VC is mandatory unless you want to grind for 100s or hours?
Man I'm just happy this is on GPU.
First time MLB The Show "player" since I'm a Xbox gamer. Can't wait to try it out. hopefully I can play it today by changing my region to New-Zealand. 🙂
I'll probably grab it some time in the summer when I really need a baseball game fix but the RttS changes are a big bummer.
This series would benefit from spacing out its releases, seriously. Perhaps the MLB is "forcing" the developers -and Sony- to churn out sequels on a yearly basis?
Will try it out. If its accessible and fun it would be nice. I have no connection to the sport (like most US Sports becuase EU) so I need some basic to understand in the game. Played a Online Match of Madden for Gamepass Quest had no clue what going on, but somehow managed to win.
Every sportsgaming franchise would tbh
Not sure if MLB, Formula 1 or the NFL are forcing companies to release annual games but they sure as hell want to get paid every year.
Only way to recoup the (extremely expensive) license fees is to release as many games as possible and the "one game per season" model is kinda the sweet spot as far as market saturation and profit goes.
That's how you get these "baby step improvements + roster update" games every year.
Really can't compare it to the jump in quality between TLOU and TLOU2, because Sony does not have to pay somebody for the rights to Ellie & Joel every year. Hardly matters to Sony if they release one or two games per decade.
EDIT: Pro Evolution tried a new approach in 2021 where they only charged 29.99€ for a roster update to the 2020 games. Thing is, Pro Evo is lacking some of the most important/expensive licenses (Premier League, Bundesliga) so I'm not sure that would translate to other games.
yes, whoever thought it was a great idea to make it so your character was defined by the gear he wore is a fucking idiot. The whole god damn point of a career mode is the actual improvement of your player by performing actions and playing smart baseball. I think i saw attributes cap at 60 and the rest is gained by gear.
WHY
JUST FUCKING WHY
How Road to the Show COMPLETELY Changed for MLB The Show 21
Road to the Show made some MASSIVE changes and I'm on the fence about it. We'll have to wait and see when the game comes out on April 16th! #MLBTheShow21Sour...
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This video does a good job explaining the changes.
Think we will see tomorrow how "grindy" all that stuff is. If you can win these loadout items at a reasonable pace, I'm OK with it.
Ok. Let's look at your argument.
Before:
- Revenue from PS players
- Revenue from PS players
- Revenue from Xbox players purchasing the game
- Money from Microsoft upfront to put it on Gamepass.
How Road to the Show COMPLETELY Changed for MLB The Show 21
Road to the Show made some MASSIVE changes and I'm on the fence about it. We'll have to wait and see when the game comes out on April 16th! #MLBTheShow21Sour...
This video does a good job explaining the changes.
Think we will see tomorrow how "grindy" all that stuff is. If you can win these loadout items at a reasonable pace, I'm OK with it.
I just watched this video and that sounds like they are they are taking the RPG out of RTTS. This loadout stuff sounds seems to run against that concept. I was hoping they would double down on the RPG stuff and create deeper stories.
That's not how GamePass works. I'm pretty sure I pay money for GamePass, not sure where you're getting free from.
My hope is that the missions you have to fulfill (like "get 10 hits") kinda go in the direction you want your player to got to.
So if I just want to be a batter in RTTS, I can work towards that.
I admit that it all sounds bad at first glance but I'm not married to the concept of getting 99s in all skill categories via the XP route.
It's always a problem when any annual sports series is on new hardware. It takes time to get familiar with it and a couple of more years to really get the most under the hood. Making it for multiple systems and making it cross gen is going to have its limitations if they have the same amount of people and the same amount of time.
Games like these helps with learning the basics on rules and so on. I still don't know how stealing bases works though or when to do it even if did get platinum trophy in The Show 18.
I'm not going to lie, as a PlayStation gamer that invested in a PS5 and avid MLB The Show player, that game going on Game Pass hurt, especially the follow-up from Outriders, another game I was committed to, doing the same. Their cost combined is half an Xbox Series S right there. It's really making me rethink how to buy video games. I do wonder if fellow PS gamers are having the same feelings I have.
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It hasn't changed much for me, granted I have a Series X but it's for exclusives, if a game I want comes out I am still buying it on my PS5 over playing it on GP on my X as it's my preferred platform. The only difference is I may try a game first to make sure I want to actually buy it. I have yet to play a game that was on GP that I liked and then not turn around and buy it on my PS (If it's on there). It's a win/win for both PS and Xbox from me lol.
It sounds like they emphasized making it friendlier for new / casual players this year.
It doesn't have to hurt! I love the games that PlayStation's studios makes, but that doesn't mean I have to stay loyal to one brand forever. You said it yourself, the barrier to entry for Xbox is quite low and would clearly pay off for you relatively quickly.
From the videos I've seen the game looks much better in game scenarios than trailers, which is so weird but that's always been the way with the Show games. Like, NBA 2K and Madden look great in trailers and pretty samey, incremental updates in game, but the Show always looks best in motion of normal fluid gameplay.
Can't wait to play it tomorrow.
The RTTS changes sound terrible. Seems like they're going in hard on the MTX component in that and turning it more into MyPlayer. I can't imagine that these loadouts won't be affected by microtransactions, like NBA 2K MyPlayer. Sounds like RTTS is scrapping the entire point of the mode, a deep career mode, and replacing it with basically the worst aspects of Diamond Dynasty. Disappointing, watching this preview video they've just decided to kill RTTS going forward, bummer. It's not surprising given the direction of Madden and NBA 2K the last 10 years, but The Show was kinda that last hold out of sports games that didn't completely sell out their feature-complete single player games for MTX-driven arcadey modes.
The idea that your player could be 50ovr in one game, and then you get some unique load out and he suddenly becomes a star in the next game, is antithetical to the entire point of RTTS, which is supposed to be an incremental career mode where you build your player up over time through performance. Adding in the podcast/commentary stuff is an okay touch, but the most fun I've had with this mode over the years has been making my own narrative building a guy, not having the game make a fake narrative for me about being a two way player or something, like ... the journey for me has been about creating a character, getting through the minors, making the Show, falling back, etc, and I don't need video podcasts about that.
Seems like a bizarre conclusion given that the current lifetime sales of MLB The Show on Xbox consoles has $0, and the publisher is paid for games being on GamePass (in addition to MTX revenue which has basically doubled the install base)
I think this will pressure Sony to try to get some deal going for PS+, PS now, or something similar on PSN. Seems like a miss if they don't try to counter it given that this has been Sony's most successful sports franchise, ever, and the only Sony Sports title to survive since the original run of Playstation Sony/989 sports games (NBA Shootout, NFL GameDay, MLB Series -> The Show).
Can't wait to play it tomorrow.
The RTTS changes sound terrible. Seems like they're going in hard on the MTX component in that and turning it more into MyPlayer. I can't imagine that these loadouts won't be affected by microtransactions, like NBA 2K MyPlayer. Sounds like RTTS is scrapping the entire point of the mode, a deep career mode, and replacing it with basically the worst aspects of Diamond Dynasty. Disappointing, watching this preview video they've just decided to kill RTTS going forward, bummer. It's not surprising given the direction of Madden and NBA 2K the last 10 years, but The Show was kinda that last hold out of sports games that didn't completely sell out their feature-complete single player games for MTX-driven arcadey modes.
The idea that your player could be 50ovr in one game, and then you get some unique load out and he suddenly becomes a star in the next game, is antithetical to the entire point of RTTS, which is supposed to be an incremental career mode where you build your player up over time through performance. Adding in the podcast/commentary stuff is an okay touch, but the most fun I've had with this mode over the years has been making my own narrative building a guy, not having the game make a fake narrative for me about being a two way player or something, like ... the journey for me has been about creating a character, getting through the minors, making the Show, falling back, etc, and I don't need video podcasts about that.
Seems like a bizarre conclusion given that the current lifetime sales of MLB The Show on Xbox consoles has $0, and the publisher is paid for games being on GamePass (in addition to MTX revenue which has basically doubled the install base)
I think this will pressure Sony to try to get some deal going for PS+, PS now, or something similar on PSN. Seems like a miss if they don't try to counter it given that this has been Sony's most successful sports franchise, ever, and the only Sony Sports title to survive since the original run of Playstation Sony/989 sports games (NBA Shootout, NFL GameDay, MLB Series -> The Show).
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I think the thing is too, when this game eventually falls off Game Pass, it's going to drop to $20, and with cross-progression I could buy it later on PlayStation 5.
Really, you can't create multiple RTTS players now? My kids basically only played RTTS and would do a pitcher and positional player. What happens now... do you have one player who can change positions?
It's a fair question, but on the other hand, France has its own professional baseball league that's nearly a century old. I don't think it's as (relatively) popular as it is in Italy and the Netherlands, though.