Why not 5 inning baseball?
Then you don't need any relief pitchers
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MLB Discussing Major Rule Changes to Allow Season to Start (automatic strike-zone, seven innings)
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Then you don't need any relief pitchers
you missed the craziest parts OP, quarantining players and staff together for the whole season
NBA also have a possible plan to put all the playoff players in Vegas for a playoffs
NBA could salvage season with truncated playoff tournament in Las Vegas, report says
A traditional postseason format seems out of the realm of possibility for the NBA
www.cbssports.com
they're gonna have to make changes if they want to play a season this year at this point. So as i think it was joe maddon said might as well go all out with changes for this season. try anything and everything to see if it works like automatic strike zones.
If I understood OP correctly, they aren't talking about changing the game to generally be 7-innings but rather using 7-inning double headers to catch up on lost time
7-inning games aren't unheard of already (weather)
That's good. As long as they do it safely.
Baseball is a sport that is a little more virus-prone than basketball or football I'd imagine. Players are naturally spread out during most instances of play, only the defense touches the ball, they usually have a different ball for every at bat opportunity, and only a handful of players touch the ball on a given at bat... The pitcher, catcher, usually 2 fielders. As opposed to basketball where the ball moves between 10 people rapidly and of course bodily contact is required to play basketball.
I suspect this change is being proposed so that they can pack a lot of double headers in... E.g., play from June to Sept, but with 3 double headers a week or something.
Baseball is a sport that is a little more virus-prone than basketball or football I'd imagine. Players are naturally spread out during most instances of play, only the defense touches the ball, they usually have a different ball for every at bat opportunity, and only a handful of players touch the ball on a given at bat... The pitcher, catcher, usually 2 fielders. As opposed to basketball where the ball moves between 10 people rapidly and of course bodily contact is required to play basketball.
I suspect this change is being proposed so that they can pack a lot of double headers in... E.g., play from June to Sept, but with 3 double headers a week or something.
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"Bread and circuses," huh? Fuck, people today can't survive with just the circuses on hiatus. Modern civilization is fucked.
That's not how I read it, it sounds like each day would be a scheduled 7-inning double-header. With the proposed tight schedule it would almost have to be that sort of sprint. And yeah we've had games as short as five innings that counted, but those weren't planned for...I don't know. I'm really not one of those "sanctity of the games" people, I love the idea of robot umps, I'd be more than happy with a pitch clock, etc., but this strikes me as an essentially fundamental change to the game itself, on the lines of changing base lengths to be 85 feet.
Granted, the game has changed a tremendous amount over the years, from the numbers of balls and fouls counting toward outs and so on, but roster construction and in-game management is built around some of these fundamental rules. It's a huge part of what I guess you would call the meta-game, and I guess that aspect of the game is more important to me than I realized.
Rob Manfred hates baseball and is going to use COVID-19 to push through all his baseball hating changes. He threw in robo balls and strikes to make people happy and hope they ignore all his other awful ideas.
Maybe my cubs won't have enough time to blow leads then lol.
interesting ideas I'd love to see them tried
interesting ideas I'd love to see them tried
Baseball is relatively low impact compared to other sports, so there isn't as much of a physical toll after a single game (except certain positions like pitcher/catcher where the game is pretty hard on their bodies). As a result, teams usually play 5-6 games a week.
Fans aren't expected to watch every game, due to the number of games and length of games. This is why you'll often see games scheduled during the daytime on weekdays when everyone is at work.
One of the biggest challenges to starting up any sports season is what is going to inevitably happen when one player tests positive or there's an outbreak on one team. Leagues have to come up with a contingency for that before starting play. Does the season automatically get cancelled? Does that team get 2 week quarantine? Does the team they played most recently also get quarantined...? There's a lot to think about and plan for.
That's a good question, they may treat the full season like spring training or the August roster expansion. Have the expanded roster all season. I don't think having a full farm system will be possible, from a revenue side, technology side, and personnel. MLB clubs can kinda control who is coming on and off the team, but when you also have minor leaguers who move around a lot during the season, it opens up more opportunity for one guy to bring an infection on board a whole team.
That's a good question, they may treat the full season like spring training or the August roster expansion. Have the expanded roster all season. I don't think having a full farm system will be possible, from a revenue side, technology side, and personnel. MLB clubs can kinda control who is coming on and off the team, but when you also have minor leaguers who move around a lot during the season, it opens up more opportunity for one guy to bring an infection on board a whole team.
If you're going to add video-game-type rules to the game, might as well just have them play the video game for now.
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Completely disagree, if they can restart an entire industry it's a good thing. A lot of people missing paychecks right now because sports aren't being played from the multi-millionaire all-stars all the way through the guy that rakes the field and paints the lines.
IT'S PART OF THE PASTTIMEEEE...
But yeah, baseball is weird. That long season with games 5/7 nights a week is part of what made it "America's pastime." I didn't grow up a strong baseball fan, it was probably my least favorite sport to play and watch as a kid, but baseball got me through some personal shit in my teens and 20s, mostly because it was on *every day* from April to October and you could set your watch to it. I think a lot of people, young and old, go through that relationship with baseball where you define your summers by having the TV on or going to the ballpark once a week. Tickets used to be cheap for MLB games, when I was in college Red Sox tickets were $14 for the bleachers and they were good then too and most games were sell outs. In small markets, tickets are basically free. When I was 18, going to a ball game was a great activity... I couldn't drink legally, so I remember tickets were $14 and the train was $4 round trip.
I don't really give a shit about baseball much anymore, it's the sport I follow the least, but it is one of those things that's kinda always there for you when you need it. If my wife and I get into an argument during the summer, I can reliably retreat to a room and turn on a baseball game any night of the week from April to October. There's not a ton of sports or TV like that.
those ppl should be getting paid regardless because these are billion dollar organizations with deep-pocketed owners and players. fuck all of this. maintaining health is of most importance and not wasting resources ensuring millionaires don't get sick. fuck this shit and i miss sports more than anyone.
but not like this. manfried continues to be the absolute fucking worst.
Agree.
I would be more upset if 7 innings was a permanent change. If 7 innings and a few other 1 season rule changes is what it takes to get baseball, get them paid and above all the safety of everyone i am ok with changes. But, changing it to 7 next year or the year after when we are back to some normalcy that would ruin the game IMO. Imagine if NFL was cut a quarter or even 2. It's a trash idea.
I never heard about it and I actually used to enjoy watching MILL at times back in the day. Whatever NBC threw at it was a pittance compared to any sort of thing in MLB could/would do. An absolute drop in the ocean.
I don't really mind any of the stuff in the OP. Even as a lifelong diehard, baseball could probably use a bit of a refresh.
The problems with baseball arent the game and i dont know why the league doesnt understand this.
This is the million dollar question and really the reason why any plan to begin playing sports again is dumb.
They'll probably have to test everyone for the virus after every double header which is like 60-70 people? What happens when you actually get the virus and recover and have the antibodies and then you'll always test positive?
There are sports that work but they're not going to be team sports. Golf, tennis, and a lot of other individual sports should be more than fine if played without crowds.
Sure dollar for dollar, what NBC did for the PLL was peanuts, but they did enough that it was a professional production (unlike what MLL put out.) They have last season up on NBC Gold for free right now apparently, so you could check it out. I'd recommend the Whipsnakes v Atlas game in Baltimore. Oh... and the PLL hasn't postponed/cancelled their 2020 season yet, they're still selling tickets for their May 29th opener in Boston.
Also... MILL (box) or MLL (field)? If MILL, good to see another geezer out there! (MILL rebranded to NLL ~25 years ago.)
If they tested frequently (i.e. before each game on a daily basis), I could see that player being detected almost immediately and would then follow the normal protocol of two-week self-quarantine and be good-to-go after that. I don't think you'd need to test them anymore after that point. The science of getting it twice seems spotty at best and a very low risk in the scheme of things.
So we have a good idea about when people show positive for the virus? Is it immediately after contracting, or is there a delay?
If it's not detectable until sometime after infection, once you realize one player has it, the entire team is at risk
Yup.
Games stay the same length, yet more commercials are added.
The article isn't clear, but I think it means that MLB intends to increase the number of double-headers, and those games will be played as 7-inning affairs.
I'm interested to hear how many extra double-header days they'll do, because they might have to let teams carry an extra pitcher, given that if you pitch 4 innings or 6, you still need five days between starts. You can't really compress "rest."
I'm interested to hear how many extra double-header days they'll do, because they might have to let teams carry an extra pitcher, given that if you pitch 4 innings or 6, you still need five days between starts. You can't really compress "rest."
That's a good question, I'm not sure myself and a quick google search didn't seem to have a clear answer how soon post-infection that testing would return a positive result. I agree it would need to be pre-contagious to be effective.
I'm for this. Just have them play MLB The Show (or whatever the popular one is). If the players suck at it, then that just makes it all the more entertaining.
Desperate times call for desperate measures.
I think there's an untapped market for NFL players playing Tecmo Super Bowl on Twitch for charity
I can see them starting a runner at second in the 10th inning.
I definitely can't see them being prepared enough to implement the robotic strike zone though.
I definitely can't see them being prepared enough to implement the robotic strike zone though.
Oh god, no. The USL is having their teams play 1-v-1 Rocket League and some of the games are just painful to watch.
