How many years have we been waiting for? At some point you're just going to have to accept that this is who Hal is.
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How many years have we been waiting for? At some point you're just going to have to accept that this is who Hal is.
To succeed long term you need an owner who is involved. Sometimes it works out, sometimes not but letting the baseball people, who increasingly rely on too many formulas for player acquisition, make all the final decisions gets us to not picking up a Cole, or Corbin or Verlander.
I didn't have a problem with the Gray trade and Happ. Resigning Happ was reaching though. The larger problem is when the offseason pitching pool is so deep, SIGN SOMEONE. The Yankees have been crutching on CC for so long, and the utility of that has about reached an end.
There's been like a decade plus of pitchers coming to New York and sucking though, so I can see why they might be shy about pulling the trigger. Carl Pavano, Jaret Wright, Kei Igawa, Kevin Brown, Jose Contreas, Hideki Irabu, Javier Vasquez... the list of busts has been really long.
The list of succesful pitchers for any significant time is a lot shorter. It has basically been CC, Kuroda, Chien-Ming Wang preinjury, maybe Tanaka the first 3 years. Then after that the next most succesful guy is probably AJ Burnett? In conclusion, the Yankees are probably screwed once CC retires. Also sign more Asian pitchers, but pay the trainers more.
There's been like a decade plus of pitchers coming to New York and sucking though, so I can see why they might be shy about pulling the trigger. Carl Pavano, Jaret Wright, Kei Igawa, Kevin Brown, Jose Contreas, Hideki Irabu, Javier Vasquez... the list of busts has been really long.
The list of succesful pitchers for any significant time is a lot shorter. It has basically been CC, Kuroda, Chien-Ming Wang preinjury, maybe Tanaka the first 3 years. Then after that the next most succesful guy is probably AJ Burnett? In conclusion, the Yankees are probably screwed once CC retires. Also sign more Asian pitchers, but pay the trainers more.
Hearing NYY fans complain about not signing anyone makes me laugh. In 2013 the Twins signed Ricky Nolasco for 4/54. That was the BIGGEST signing in twins history. Ran a mid 5s era for two shit seasons.
Outside of Ervin Santana after Nolasco, the Twins have signed nobody, ever, until they went after the "mid tier" guys this year in Cruz/Marwin/Schoop/Cron
Outside of Ervin Santana after Nolasco, the Twins have signed nobody, ever, until they went after the "mid tier" guys this year in Cruz/Marwin/Schoop/Cron
It's the Yankees man. They currently only have one contract above 20 million this year, which is Tanaka (and Encarnacion, but obviously they don't owe all of that). And they're busy pinching pennies over giving Patrick Corbin another year and 20 million. Meanwhile throwing Happ 17 a million a year for 3 years. Heck, just pay for it with Ellsbury's injury insurance money.
Happ just needs to hit 165 innings or 27 starts in 2020 for the third year to vest. He's probably on pace for the games started this year, if he pitches even slightly better he will probably hit the innings count too. I think it's more probable than not he hits those numbers in 2020, unless he continues declining.
Hopefully Ray gets traded today. Snakes don't have what it takes to win a playoff series, and they could use some prospects to bolster that top 10 farm system.
Well you all crowed for like 5 posts when he actually had a good game. Dude stinks, i dont know how anyone can say otherwise at this point. you just dont want to admit you were wrong!
Hopefully Toronto traded for the pitching phenom known as Jason Vargas.
So should the Yankees stop spending to make twins fans feel good? Well, they actually have these last few years. And it makes no sense for a team that is making money to be penny pinchers.
Imagine running your 9 figure baseball operation where the motive isn't to win, but to act in response to another team.
I *hope* that's not what the Mets were doing, even if the thought was "we can still win AND hurt the Yankees". The Mets probably would win if they actually sought to do so as a function of being a MLB team, lol
I *hope* that's not what the Mets were doing, even if the thought was "we can still win AND hurt the Yankees". The Mets probably would win if they actually sought to do so as a function of being a MLB team, lol
Nope. Kay was a back end top 100 at the beginning of the year, but was dropped out of the top 100 in the mid season updates.
Maybe. My family is mostly Mets fans. They tell me Kay has the potential to be the real deal and the most major league ready in their system. Also, Toronto would not deal Stroman to us if our package was equal to the Mets. We would've had to beat that. Last I read on Twitter was that Toronto was asking for Garcia.
FUCK OFF INTO THE LITERAL SUN, SHATKINS. I FUCKING HATE YOU BASTARDS. NOT ONLY DO YOU TRADE THE HEART AND SOUL OF THE TEAM, BUT YOU DON'T EVEN GET A DECENT RETURN FOR HIM????
FUCK OFFFFFFFFFFFF
THE FUCKING WORST. HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU BOTH NOT FIRED YET FOR BEING JUST FUCKING TERRIBLE. YOU'RE KILLING A TEAM I LOVE WITH YOUR IDIOCY. COME BACK, AA. ;____;
FUCK OFFFFFFFFFFFF
THE FUCKING WORST. HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU BOTH NOT FIRED YET FOR BEING JUST FUCKING TERRIBLE. YOU'RE KILLING A TEAM I LOVE WITH YOUR IDIOCY. COME BACK, AA. ;____;
oh I forgot that the Angels-Orioles series was 4 games. We held the unstoppable Baltimore juggernaut to 3-1.
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