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I just fucking hope Cruise doesn't get injured or gets into an accident doing his own stunts.
I want to see MI17 with him as Ethan
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I just fucking hope Cruise doesn't get injured or gets into an accident doing his own stunts.
I want to see MI17 with him as Ethan
"You are going to make him recite the manifesto?" was telegraphing the twist way too much, as was Hunt's corny over-the-top bad cop routine.
I saw it coming as soon as I noticed the windows were covered in blinding light but it was still so so good.
Too late. He broke his ankle doing a stunt during this movie and they used the take in the film.
Can't see how they can up this movie stunt wise. Wouldn't be surprised if they tone it down similar to the first movie.
It's interesting how CGI can place a camera anywhere.. yet this movie has better directed action than 90% of action movies, while using practical stunts.
It's interesting how CGI can place a camera anywhere.. yet this movie has better directed action than 90% of action movies, while using practical stunts.
Disagree. If the situation were real and those nukes went off, that is exactly the type of situation Hunt would lose his cool with.
Just got out from the movie.
It's crazy how even though there are 6 movies in this series it just keeps getting better!
I rewatched all of them in the last 2 weeks or so and even though the original ones are still really good, they just keep upping the stakes and making them better.
Wonder if the next one will involve space or at least upper atmosphere in some extent, I can picture them doing a crazy action scene with a zero gravity part in the middle...
It's crazy how even though there are 6 movies in this series it just keeps getting better!
I rewatched all of them in the last 2 weeks or so and even though the original ones are still really good, they just keep upping the stakes and making them better.
Wonder if the next one will involve space or at least upper atmosphere in some extent, I can picture them doing a crazy action scene with a zero gravity part in the middle...
I haven't seen a Mission Impossible movie since like 2006, but I figured something was up because Hunt doesn't normally threaten to torture people. Something very much seemed awry with his behavior, but since I never saw MI4 or MI5 maybe he's established as more of a loose canon there.
As a general rule though most Hollywood films don't like to have their squeaky clean good guy leading man be a torture artist, so just that threat in the context of a AAA Hollywood blockbuster is a big tipoff.
Not to mention that if Hunt dropping the ball with plutonium had actually resulted in death of tens of millions around the globe, that would be a pretty grim way to start the film and be way too deep of a mistake for the protagonist to atone for. For the brief moments I thought the triple nuke detonation was real though, I was pretty flabbergasted and surprised at such an insane creative risk. "We're just going to start the movie with Rome, Jerusalem, and Mecca destroyed? Holy shit."
Good movie but might put Rogue Nation on top. I just loved the opera scene and the water dive. Those were real nail biters and even felt my hands get sweaty. Still a fun ride, could have been a little shorter.
And leaving the plutonium unattended was a big eye roll. They should have played the scene out differently.
And that one guy needs to lose weight before he gets a heart attack. I love him so hopefully he looks after himself.
What ever happen to that helicopter scene in the trailers that they crash into a truck or something in the woods?
And leaving the plutonium unattended was a big eye roll. They should have played the scene out differently.
And that one guy needs to lose weight before he gets a heart attack. I love him so hopefully he looks after himself.
What ever happen to that helicopter scene in the trailers that they crash into a truck or something in the woods?
Everybody is praising the action sequences but what impressed me the most was how sharp the sound direction was from the mixing to matching the OST to specific scenes in the movie, such as the beats corresponding to the CIA director's steps in her intro. Absolutely crisp.
Everyone is pretending to be something or someone else and Tom Cruise can climb a sheer cliff after crashing a helicopter.
Also jet fuel can't melt man of steel's head.
I'm exhausted from watching that movie. For all the good reasons.
Honestly, this might be the pinacle spy-action movie. The best yet. I could definitely see where the comparison to Mad Max: Fury Road come from.
The plot is there, but it take a back seat to the action and the characters and damn it doesn't let up till the credits roll. It leave you catching your breath 10 minutes after the movie.
11/10
Honestly, this might be the pinacle spy-action movie. The best yet. I could definitely see where the comparison to Mad Max: Fury Road come from.
The plot is there, but it take a back seat to the action and the characters and damn it doesn't let up till the credits roll. It leave you catching your breath 10 minutes after the movie.
11/10
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I loved it
That said I hope the next goes back to a serialized presentation.
Part of the charm of the series is that it was a new mission, new villain everytime and usually a new look as each entry was once a different director.
This looked, felt and sounded like Rogue Nation 2... which it was. It worked and it was awesome but I don't want that as the new status quo for the series
Also a total shame they went the route of obvious antagonistic "good guy" is really the bad guy routine as Cavill was excellent and it would have been nice to keep him around
That said I hope the next goes back to a serialized presentation.
Part of the charm of the series is that it was a new mission, new villain everytime and usually a new look as each entry was once a different director.
This looked, felt and sounded like Rogue Nation 2... which it was. It worked and it was awesome but I don't want that as the new status quo for the series
Also a total shame they went the route of obvious antagonistic "good guy" is really the bad guy routine as Cavill was excellent and it would have been nice to keep him around
Just came out of it. I chose Dolby Digital over IMAX and I recommend everyone see the movie like that, the sound design is so good you flinch when bullets whiz by and cars scrape against concrete. This movie will have you ducking and weaving. And the music is so good!
And I got caught with both fake outs every time (CNN report and the mental dry run of the breakout).
And I got caught with both fake outs every time (CNN report and the mental dry run of the breakout).
Considering you never seen the previous two movies and Fallout did an excellent job tying basically all of the previous movies together in some way. It's clear you're not invested in these characters and this is basically what Ethan Hunt does. Running, climbing and does every death defying stunts to save the world.
There were gadgets, stealth, and infiltration and break-in, even a heist. You were just not invested enough in this universe to notice it, and probably just looking for criticism of missing things that was right in front of you.
I'm pretty sure Hunt climbing the mountain side instead of using the rope at the end was a little nod to the opening rock climb in 2. The only movie I thought didn't get a direct reference was Ghost Protocol. Unless I missed one? They could've mentioned Hendricks' nuclear plan but chose not to. I also think Paula Patton could still work as a 4th team member, and not take anything away from what Rebecca Ferguson is doing. There can be more than 1 action lady per film, y'know, it IS possible.
It's interesting, because the first 3 movies are so different from one another, but 4-6 are a fairly cohesive trilogy at least in terms of overall tone. Makes since, as McQuarrie wrote/directed all 3 (he was uncredited for GP but both Bird and McQuarrie confirmed he co-wrote and co-directed it).
I loved Fallout and think it's the best in the series. It was long but never dragged. The opening fakeout with Blitzer was fantastic. The set pieces were assembled in a way that each was better than the last — usually the best stunt is in the middle of the movie (1, 3, GP) or in the opening (2, RN), but in this Fallout, as incredible as the Paris chases were, and of Cruise running on rooftops through Rome (I think? I forget), the helicopter stuff was insane. Truly insane.
My rankings:
1. Fallout
2. Ghost Protocol
3. Rogue Nation
4. 1
5. 2
6. 3
Also, I loved that Max the arms dealer from the first movie "returned" through her daughter/son.
Rewatching the first movie recently, I thought Max was a really charismatic & fun character that didn't get enough screen time.
Rewatching the first movie recently, I thought Max was a really charismatic & fun character that didn't get enough screen time.
I will echo previous sentiments that while I should have known most everyone was going to be okay, I still found myself on the edge of my seat and catching my breath.
I would like Walker to be the last time Hunt is fighting a mole in any more government agency, though. That trope is spent after this one.
So rarely anymore do I find a film that feels lile I have been on a journey. That the start happened like it was days ago, and I mean that in a good way. Not sure I am articulating it well, but I guess I mean to say I was so deeply engrossed in it I felt things had really happened in the story and it wasn't just setpiece after setpiece.
And damnit if Luther's speech to Ilse didnt actually choke me up. I'd see the film again just for that scene. That is earned.
The weight on Ethans shoulders in this film and how he just deals with it because he has to...how almost every plan B is improvised. He's such a likable character that way.
I will see this again. And this is the measure with which I will hold the next James Bond film up to. Because right now Ethan, Ilse, and the IMF team are schooling them in the art of gadget spy action thrillers.
Blu ray by Christmas and MI 7 by 2021 please.
I would like Walker to be the last time Hunt is fighting a mole in any more government agency, though. That trope is spent after this one.
So rarely anymore do I find a film that feels lile I have been on a journey. That the start happened like it was days ago, and I mean that in a good way. Not sure I am articulating it well, but I guess I mean to say I was so deeply engrossed in it I felt things had really happened in the story and it wasn't just setpiece after setpiece.
And damnit if Luther's speech to Ilse didnt actually choke me up. I'd see the film again just for that scene. That is earned.
The weight on Ethans shoulders in this film and how he just deals with it because he has to...how almost every plan B is improvised. He's such a likable character that way.
I will see this again. And this is the measure with which I will hold the next James Bond film up to. Because right now Ethan, Ilse, and the IMF team are schooling them in the art of gadget spy action thrillers.
Blu ray by Christmas and MI 7 by 2021 please.
I just don't see as much time and care invested into non-action sequences as there was in the first film. There's nothing as cool as the Prague Ball that opens MI1 or the CIA break-in. No James Bond gadgets like the chewing gum explosives. It feels like the stuff in between the chases is just meatless connective tissue.
I did appreciate how Ethan and crew were mostly on top of Walker's schemes. They've been through this a couple times and Ethan never felt "fooled" to me.
That helped a lot, yes. And I think its why it didn't bother me so much in this one like it did in 3. They fooled me good by not being fooled, while fooling Walker.
I would like to know if anyone thought the halo jump might not be as impressive to watch unless you know they did it hundreds of times in real life? Maybe it was the lighting in my theater but I found myself thinking it didnt seem as cool as it should have been.
Thinking about this... yeah, this might be the best, and I LOVE Rogue Nation. It has just the right blend of twisty narrative, sheen of visuals, well executed action and finally compelling characters. I haven't actually cared about the characters until Rogue Nation and Fallout. And I actually remembered Solomon Lane this time! (due to the cabin scene).
This utterly embarrasses the Daniel Craig Bond films that aren't Casino Royale.
This utterly embarrasses the Daniel Craig Bond films that aren't Casino Royale.
Indeed. I have never been so nervous for characters that I know aren't dying. That skydive "uncut" long take from jump to landing was awesome.
How awesome was it that after the buildup of animosity between Walker and Hunt, the film then shows them getting their asses handed to them by some bad guy in a bathroom.
That freshness in each previous entry what partly what kept it free from the baggage that other series have. No one really questions where are the agents that are proven to be trust worthy like Renner, Maggie Q and Rhys Meyers' characters. They can just pop in and out whenever it suits the film.
I do think Ilsa is a bit less interesting when she is actually part of the team. Cavill is great, but is character is a bit odd, a bit disappointed he is just a pantomime villain.
The last couple of film also feel closer to Bond with how it turned up its Britishness. We have covered quite a few London tourist hotspots.
The non-IMAX shots in many places were strangely blurry. Like, I remember some shots of Julia near the end where she looked out of focus. Am I crazy?
This might be the funniest "overly pedantic nerd goes to an action movie" line I've read in a while. Congrats!
Gotta say tho, Hunt has put in more sweat in 6 movies than Bond in 20+.
It's not important, but the other movies are great on their own merits. This one has some fun little references to previous ones but you don't "need" to know anything going in.
One doesn't even need to be invested in the series to recognize the gadgets, stealth, break-ins, and heists in Fallout. You just need to literally watch the movie and try to get on its level and appreciate it.
Gadgets are constantly in the movie, in key moments.
Stealth / secrecy / secret identities are always key in MI movies, and especially so in this one with John Lark and the Apostles and the CIA and all that.
Cruise & Cavill's first mission together is a break-in
There are at least 2 major set-pieces revolving around a heist. The Paris sequence is an action Ocean's heist -- they plan the extraction, then the actual event goes in a totally different direction.
Fallout is everything good about the Mission Impossible movies times ten.
Thanks for your reply. I guess I'm going to re-watch them then. It's been a while since I saw them.
Yeah, the bathroom scene is basically the same as the Vatican one in MI3, but gone horribly wrong because Cavill isn't playing ball.
I'm fucking amazed Tom Cruise actually trained for 6000 hours to fly the chopper. Considering how easily they could've just had a pilot in the back with dual controls that's just...wow.
While they didn't bring in the main plot, all the stuff relating to Julia builds on the ending of Ghost Protocol, so I'd call that a continuation.
Mid film review.
Is this the best film featuring Rebecca Ferguson in a burgundy pantsuit doing flippy shit? Possibly.
Is this the best film featuring Rebecca Ferguson in a burgundy pantsuit doing flippy shit? Possibly.
Get the hell out of the theatre and let considerate people enjoy their movie.
Anyway, I just got out and thought it was pretty damn fun. McQuarrie's craft was WAY better than MI5. Motorcycle chase was baller. Cruise is amazing. That dude can still run like nobody's business.
This felt like MI meets TDK in more ways than one. The diversion of a passenger carrier into the underground to be rammed into the water. The score. The sweeping camera shots over the city. And just the general tone of the film.
I was very happy to see more serious character stakes make a return. This film felt dangerous from the outset.
I actually found myself missing Jeremy Renner's character.
Those chase scenes were amazing and LONG. I'll be curious to see if they drag on rewatches in the future.
Anyway, I enjoyed it a lot. Not the best or most inventive MI, but at least the best since MI3 imo.
Best action movie since Mad Max, and probably a masterpiece for the action genre when the dust settles.
The craft on display here is just phenomenal and it really feels like some kind of hybrid between like Nolan and maybe Cameron. I loved the way it circled around to incorporate every aspect of the series style up until this point, even MI2.
Also I feel like the sound design/mixing/everything audio in this film deserves all the oscars because it was on point for every millisecond throughout the entire run.
The craft on display here is just phenomenal and it really feels like some kind of hybrid between like Nolan and maybe Cameron. I loved the way it circled around to incorporate every aspect of the series style up until this point, even MI2.
Also I feel like the sound design/mixing/everything audio in this film deserves all the oscars because it was on point for every millisecond throughout the entire run.
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