I mean, I feel there is a world of difference between "people don't care enough about these people" and "people don't care about these people and I can't give two fucks about them either".
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Minority Owner of Golden State Warriors says 'nobody cares' about Uyghurs in interview
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He's saying this because talking in the abstract about racism domestically and putting up a few hastags in the US doesn't effect his bottom line, acknowledging Chinas atrocities absolutely does. The NBA are massive hypocrites that frankly doesn't actually give a fuck about racism beyond their profit margins.
I had a much longer post about his capital stake being the reason he refuses to acknowledge atrocities carried out by China. I absolutely agree that his money is why he cares or doesn't care about this or that; performative when it gives him good boosts but otherwise holds zero motivation to help something that does not give him gain as well.
Absolute bullshit. This isn't some "harsh reality" crap. Most people DO care, most companies and corporations making bucket loads if money from China DON'T care and they're the ones who get a say in it. There's a big difference.
Couldn't you argue that the reason companies and corporations don't have to give a shit is because most people don't actually care?
This isn't accurate in the slightest regardless of how much this guy sucks. GOP uses Uyghur issues to do their rah rah charade. Most Americans / Europeans / likely people in general sadly do not have the Uyghurs on their radar.
User Banned (2 Months): Derailing commentary; dismissing concerns of genocide over a series of posts.
I always find it funny that people bring up individuals getting disappeared in China when black men are killed in open daylight each day by the state. Some of you start frothing at the mouth when China is brought up but never seem to actually acknowledge that nothing actually is changing here in the states. People say "why can't we do both" but in actuality we're doing neither and you're just virtue signaling over the internet. Even got someone on the first page quoting MLK who was killed by our government and white supremacists. Just another day being black in this shit country. I'd like to remind everyone that a recent AP report denied genocide of uyghurs but whatevs let the state propaganda continue to move your attention elsewhere.
Individuals? There are over a million Uygurs that are systematically put into concentration camps by the CCP and are forced to work as slaves just because they are Uygurs.
Propaganda? Really? There's plenty of evidence that it's real. The journalist were escorted by the CCP and if you read the whole article instead of just the first paragraph that would be clear.
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He's referring to this article where the CCP took journalists on a propaganda tour through Xinjiang. Tankies try to use that to deny the genocide.
Terror & tourism: Xinjiang eases its grip, but fear remains
XINJIANG, China (AP) — The razor wire that once ringed public buildings in China’s far northwestern Xinjiang region is nearly all gone.
apnews.com
I think they were referring to the other poster who said they don't get disappeared in America for speaking out against the government.
Terror & tourism: Xinjiang eases its grip, but fear remains
XINJIANG, China (AP) — The razor wire that once ringed public buildings in China’s far northwestern Xinjiang region is nearly all gone.
apnews.com
I posted this before, but yes with wealth comes power, and with power comes brain damage.
How leaders lose mental capacities—most notably for reading other people—that were essential to their rise
Did anyone actually read this fucking article? There's no way you could read this article in it's entirety and go "yup, all good. nothing going on there"Terror & tourism: Xinjiang eases its grip, but fear remains
XINJIANG, China (AP) — The razor wire that once ringed public buildings in China’s far northwestern Xinjiang region is nearly all gone.
The bold paragraph clearly states it's all still going on. Hell, the implication after reading the whole thing is that this was all a show for the press.
Yup, all good. Totally nothing suspect going on. This article totally says that nothing bad is happening.
Swear to shit, people have zero reading comprehension.
Yeah if anyone read beyond the headline and first sentence, it would imply the exact opposite. Jesus Christ people really using this article as a gotcha?
There is a difference between those who care and those who do not, and it's more than the fact that the former cares. Nobody is actually taking any action against it.
Link to said report, please.
Because this says otherwise:
China committed genocide against Uyghurs, independent tribunal rules
Is it "cultural re-education" or is it literal genocide because again in the history of this country everytime something happens to minorities we get lip service from politician's, allies, media, and corporations yet anytime anyone brings up America in comparison to china it's somehow China that's much much worse.He's referring to this article where the CCP took journalists on a propaganda tour through Xinjiang. Tankies try to use that to deny the genocide.
Terror & tourism: Xinjiang eases its grip, but fear remains
XINJIANG, China (AP) — The razor wire that once ringed public buildings in China’s far northwestern Xinjiang region is nearly all gone.
this the same bbc that was interviewing Pinot nephew and Epsteins lawyer in bad faith. I don't know why y'all continue to trust western media reporting on China but get mad when someone says hey things are clearly worse here at home right in your face.
Fair, but are you doing anything about it? I am trying to attack you, but this is his point about the whole issue.
Yes, Amnesty International is totally an American mouthpiece. Come on dude, you're better than this.
I've never heard of a cultural re-education leading to massive declines in birth rates. Have you?
Drop in Xinjiang birthrate largest in recent history: report
Xinjiang in far western China had the sharpest known decline in birthrates of any territory in recent history.
apnews.com
Chinese officials are quite open about it, too.
In their last sentence they try to claim there isn't a genocide going on and in their next post they doubled down.
It's genocide.
Look up section 2-8 of of the statistical yearbook published by the CCP themselves to see the birth rate decline. Data they stopped publishing after what's happening in Xinjiang came to light. I wonder why?
Is the CCP's own data also propaganda?
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I don't see how you can walk away with that as his point when he very specifically says he doesn't care either.
His point isn't "more people should care" like you are trying to sell it.
Also, I'm not doing anything, but I'm not a fucking billionaire that owns a NBA team either. Shrug.
i'm really not. These threads infuriate me to no end because no one on this site shares the same ire for this government which does the same exact shit.
It's straight up indoctrination and no one seems to care about it except for the one week a black man gets killed by a cop randomly and snaps them out of it.
I agree they are saying that. I believe the first part I was referring to was about speaking out against the American government that another poster mentioned. This would be the "individuals". At least, that's how I understood that specific part.
It is definitely happening.
show the fucking receipts man, before hand waving the genocide of Uighurs with whataboutism.
You're literally using an article that says this shit is still going on to say it's not. That's what people are taking issue with.
Nobody is saying what the US is doing isn't fucked up, it's the handwaving of the suffering of these people that is the issue here. We have actual interviews with people that escaped, given to amnesty international showing exactly what is going on. In their own words.
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i said there's no genocide which there isn't and if we're going to point to forced sterilization again let's make the same argument about abortion. Let's also ignore the fact that the US has participated in forced sterilization of its citizens as well.
the reason I took offense is because people continue to say the US isn't as bad when it's just as bad and people get defensive af when someone points this out.
Whataboutism. There is a genocide going on. It's possible to be critical of both the US government and the Chinese government.
"The same exact shit." It's ok to call America out for its awful behavior, but saying it's the same as what the CCP is doing it's just straight up stupid, made worse by you downplaying genocide in a sad attempt to make your point.
Jesus, what on earth. At first I thought this was parody but nope, it's an actual held opinion of yours.
America does do and has done exactly what the CCP does in a lot of instances.
That is not to say that we should downplay what the CCP is doing to the Uyghur people. It's abhorrent. I wish there were more the average citizen could do to help them.
There is clearly a difference on how ERA treats the US government's atrocities and the CCP's atrocities.
We should be just as critical of each.
you don't have to deny genocide of the Uighurs to make a case of the horrible treatment of blacks in this country.
Again, Amnesty International: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/n...-xinjiang-amounts-to-crimes-against-humanity/
They aren't an arm of the US government by any means and they aren't alone in calling it out.
Just because the US does shitty stuff doesn't mean these guys aren't doing things that are abhorrent.
Ah see I think this is where you're messing up, because there is indeed a genocide going on
Hope this helps
There are plenty of threads about atrocities committed by the US here and you know that. There are probably more threads critical of the US than threads critical about the CCP.
There are but they are not treated the same. There are posters in this thread that say that America doesn't disappear people, that America doesn't commit atrocities like this, among other things.
There were posters defending the US starving the people of Afghanistan, for instance.