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www.bloomberg.com

Millennials Hit Age 40 With No Home, More Debt Run Out of Time to Build Wealth

The oldest members of the generation turn 40 this year. They’re only 80% as wealthy as their parents were at this age.
In almost every way measurable, millennials in the U.S. at 40 are doing worse financially than the generations that came before them. Fewer millennials own homes than their parents did at their age. They have more debt — especially student debt. They simply aren't as wealthy. Now, if predictions of a long, post-Covid economic boom are to be believed, this may be the last opportunity an entire generation has to build wealth before heading off into retirement.

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The oldest U.S. millennials — born in 1981 — turn 40 this year. Older members of the generation — mocked recently as "geriatric millennials" — came of age during a long stretch of prosperity in the 1990s, the second-longest period of expansion in U.S. history. Unemployment was steadily falling. If millennials remember a recession at all from their childhood, it might be a brief one in 1990 in which the economy contracted less than 2%.

But since entering adulthood, they've been hit with major recessions at critical stages in their financial development: They were 27 years old when Lehman Bros. went bankrupt, and the Great Recession dug in when they should have been establishing themselves in the workforce. "The Great Recession knocked everyone for a loop," said William Gale, senior fellow in the Economic Studies Program at the Brookings Institution. "It caused unemployment. It caused slow wage growth. It made it harder to accumulate wealth."
Then, as millennials hit the point in their careers where people traditionally move into higher-paying managerial roles, the pandemic hit. In 2020, the U.S. economy contracted 3.5%; When the oldest Baby Boomers turned 40 in 1986, the U.S. economy expanded at a 3.5% rate. Now the U.S. economy is humming again, with sectors like retail sales and manufacturing stronger than they were before the pandemic. Stocks are at record highs, and wealth is swelling — especially for the wealthiest Americans. It remains to be seen whether jobs and wages will catch up.

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Some of the differences in wealth among the generations can be attributed to student debt. More millennials borrow to pay for college than previous generations, and the loans are bigger. Millennials, who started college in 1999, paid an average of $15,604 per year for undergraduate tuition, fees and room and board. When Gen Xers and Baby Boomers started college, that number — adjusted for inflation — was about $10,300 for each of them.

Going to college was more important for today's 40-year-olds. Millennials with bachelor's degrees or higher earn 113% more than what they would have earned with only a high-school diploma. But college-educated Baby Boomers made only 57% more than their peers with high school degrees. "That's one of the stark evolutions of the job market, where education has become a greater predictor of success," said Lowell Rickets, data scientist for the Institute for Economic Equity at the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis.

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Some economists predicted millennials would avoid buying homes after the 2008 housing market crash. They haven't, but their homeownership rates are lower than previous generations at the same point in their lives: 61% for older millennials, 68% for middle-age Gen Xers and 66% for middle-age Boomers.

"The basic way that middle American households build wealth is through their homes," said Richard Fry, a senior researcher at Pew Research Center. "Millennials have been less likely to be homeowners. Fewer of them have begun the process of building home equity."

One culprit could be housing prices, which have increased — especially compared with earnings. Millennials are paying a median of $328,000 on homes. Baby boomers only had to spend $216,000 — adjusted for inflation — in 1989. Wages, on the other hand, have only risen 20%.
In 2020, 18% of millennial renters said they planned to rent forever, up for the third consecutive year, according to a report from Apartment List. Among millennials who do plan to buy a home, 63% have no money saved for a down payment, the report said.

The share of millennials living with their parents is also significantly higher than in previous generations. "Conceptually, that could help their wealth accumulation because they'd be paying less for rent and they could save more," said Gale of Brookings, a co-author of the NBER working paper. "But in practical terms of what happens is it's an indicator of lack of economic status."
Because the life expectancy of the American population is on the rise, millennials also receive family inheritances — if available to them — later in life, which could account for why people turning 40 today have lower net worth than generations prior.

By then, "it might be too late for them to take advantage of it and meet some of those mid-life goals that wealth really helps with achieving," such as owning a home, investing in the stock market and paying down debt, Ricketts of the St. Louis Fed said


Hurry up everyone we might be poor forever 😔
 

Wrexis

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Nov 4, 2017
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35 year mortgages are out of the question now for older millennials. Even 30 year mortgages are pushing it.
 

Annubis

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's sad, but for many, the only way they'll get out of debt is when their baby boomer parents die.
 

Fuhgeddit

#TeamThierry
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Oct 27, 2017
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Honestly, I may need to eat it up and move out of New York. I cannot afford a house here or in New Jersey. It's just impossible right now. My wife and I both make money too but it's just been ridiculous paying for rent here.
 

chefbags

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Oct 25, 2017
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yeah I already know I'm fucked lol but I guess this outlines it well enough for me haha.
 

Doran

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Jun 9, 2018
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I just became debt-free at 32 so I have 8 years to play catch up on the wealth-building starting from essentially 0. Come on life-sucking 12 years of work, time to start paying off.
 

Hellwarden

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's not a bug that upcoming generations are poor as shit.

It's the system working as intended.
 

Instant Vintage

Unshakable Resolve
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Oct 25, 2017
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Just turned 40 a couple of weeks ago.

It's amazing all the shit I've been through in my life that has nothing to do with me, but has EVERYTHING to do with me.

I'm not living paycheck to paycheck, but uh....I ain't LIVING living, either.

I need to hit the lottery, one way or the other.
 

GreenMonkey

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Oct 28, 2017
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It's sad, but for many, the only way they'll get out of debt is when their baby boomer parents die.

That only works if your parents have money. My parents both barely finished college with art degrees but never really got very far with them. My dad worked at a Meijer gas station until he retired - a job I kinda helped him get when I was like 20. Not all boomers made good money.

I expect to die with part of my 90k in student loan debt still around. My wife's ~190k will probably get discharged via forgiveness in a few years (she's a social worker with 2 grad degrees).

(I'm 42, just a tiny bit older)

I keep eyeballing buying a house this year - we lost ours during the recession to the bank and Ch7 for medical bills. Even with a lot of income it is tough because our credit never really fully recovered from the Ch7 / foreclosure - always scraping by for a lot of years - and neither of us particularly good at saving money / paying off debt.
 

daveo42

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Oct 25, 2017
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I mean, I already know.

My investment account keeps telling me to put more money away for retirement and I'm looking at the numbers and saying I got another $60K to pay off and save up money in savings and maybe...just maybe buy a house one day and I can't really afford to put more in right now. Especially when the first two years I put money away was completely wiped out by the great recession.

At least have 27 more years ahead of me until I retire, but who knows if the world will still be here in that time. Or there's a complete collapse of the United States due to tyranny. Hard to put money away for retirement when that's not really guaranteed.
 

Calamari41

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Oct 25, 2017
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I wonder how that's going to change as Boomers start to die off and generational wealth passes on to Millennials.

As anybody with parents or grandparents who have entered the true end of life stage within the past ten years or so can confirm, huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge swaths of Boomer wealth are going to be sucked up by the nursing/hospice/end of life medical industrial complex.
 

Layell

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Apr 16, 2018
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I'm 29 and have started investing this year in some decently safe stuff, and am already looking at some good gains because of the post-covid recovery.

I wonder how many more of these need to be said before society realizes we're going to get screwed though.
 

SilkySm00th

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Oct 31, 2017
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Well my net worth is certainly worth more than it was for boomers at 40 so that's nice i guess...
 

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As anybody with parents or grandparents who have entered the true end of life stage within the past ten years or so can confirm, huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge swaths of Boomer wealth are going to be sucked up by the nursing/hospice/end of life medical industrial complex.

Yeah it's not going to be cheap to care for my parents as they get into their 70s/80s. Unless my parents are actively hiding how much dough they have they didnt get jack shit from their parents. I expect the same outcome.
 

Fuhgeddit

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I'm 29 and have started investing this year in some decently safe stuff, and am already looking at some good gains because of the post-covid recovery.

I wonder how many more of these need to be said before society realizes we're going to get screwed though.

Yeah, I just started investing more. I guess having around $53k in my IRA (that I can't touch) is still pretty decent, but I am sad that at 30, I feel like I could have had more.
 

SwampBastard

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Nov 1, 2017
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Can I ask a stupid question? What factors into your "net worth"?
It's not a stupid question. It's essentially the value of your assets -- cash in the bank, retirement savings, any physical assets you might own, such as a home -- less the value of your liabilities -- mostly debt. If you have $10K in the bank, $100K in a retirement account, and a home worth $250K, your total assets are $360K. If you owe $200K in the mortgage on the house, have $15K on a car loan, and $5K in credit card debt, you have $220K in liabilities. $360K in assets - $220K in liabilities = $140K net worth.

This is an oversimplification, but that's the gist of it.
 

Saganator

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Oct 26, 2017
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As anybody with parents or grandparents who have entered the true end of life stage within the past ten years or so can confirm, huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge swaths of Boomer wealth are going to be sucked up by the nursing/hospice/end of life medical industrial complex.
Yep, seen this first hand. I'm pretty sure it's designed to suck as much generational wealth as possible. If there's anything left after they pass then consider yourself lucky.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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It's not a stupid question. It's essentially the value of your assets -- cash in the bank, retirement savings, any physical assets you might own, such as a home -- less the value of your liabilities -- mostly debt. If you have $10K in the bank, $100K in a retirement account, and a home worth $250K, your total assets are $360K. If you owe $200K in the mortgage on the house, have $15K on a car loan, and $5K in credit card debt, you have $220K in liabilities. $360K in assets - $220K in liabilities = $140K net worth.

This is an oversimplification, but that's the gist of it.

Thanks for the explanation! I'm generally (fortunately) in pretty good financial shape, but some of those points are lost on me.
 

tadale

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm in my early/mid-30s, and my net worth/savings are above average. However, that's only because I was able to gain some momentum in the past couple of years from getting a decent-paying job and selling my first home. Without those two boons, I'd have next to nothing.
 

Viewt

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm 34 and just got my first 30 year mortgage for my first house...
The reality is, I think we need to get out of the mindset of "starter homes," because the concept doesn't really exist anymore - especially in popular metro areas. Housing stock that used to be considered simple but inexpensive has been cannibalized by rental properties, flipping for a higher return, and older folks hanging onto them forever. My wife and I bought our first home earlier this month. It's in the city (Chicago) and has good square footage (2300), but I spent like $100K more than I thought I would. "Starter home" my ass. There's no way we'll pay it off before we move somewhere else.
 

Cipherr

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Oct 26, 2017
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Yeah I know it, thats why Im happy to see people make a little something for themselves. Even if its selling GME, AMC or whatever risky investment, they have my support. No one else is going to give us a fucking thing. A poster the other day was able to get wedding ring for his fiance and a downpayment on a new car.