This reads like a copypasta.One of my friends used to make Holocaust jokes when we were on public transport. His excuse was "it's really horrific what happened, I am only trying to draw attention to it". Turns out it didn't stop at jokes. Having actual discussion that Hitler improved public roads and other vile shit like that. After trying to make him understand, we knew it was pointless and just had to cut him off. When I recently searched his profile and looked at all the extreme-right groups he is part of, I knew I didn't need to feel bad anymore.
Probably the same with this guy, little by little he will show his true colors
Was thinking the same lol.
You would wish it were.
Yea, if this was a lesser known indie dev or something, I don't know if there would be nearly as many defenses, or any at all.I guess I'm seeing negative but honestly, if it wasn't MikeZ who said that, and someone else far less known they'd be getting buried to oblivion. I'm not saying he's getting a free pass cause he sure as hell isn't getting any but there would probably be none of these "we need to see the context every times with twitch clips" or whatever.
Calls to remove it from EVO are a bit misguided. Skullgirls belongs to its community, it being in EVO is for their benefit, not Mikes.
That's all understandable. At the same time, it can also be argued that, as a project from a small indie studio, Mike has far more ownership of Skullgirls than Ono has of Street Fighter V, for example. Mike only recently made a big deal about adding wifi icons to the game by himself, didn't he? Yeah, there's a small team behind it, but as the lead designer and easily the most vocal member of Lab Zero, it's his game.Pretty much this.
Besides DaPurpleSharpie has busted her fucking ass off for this game, to have it taken away at the shot of EVO because Mike Z couldnt help himself would be atrocious.
He was trying to bring light to the movement not make fun of it. According to him.
Twitch is horrible at properly moderating racism
I guess I'm seeing negative but honestly, if it wasn't MikeZ who said that, and someone else far less known they'd be getting buried to oblivion. I'm not saying he's getting a free pass cause he sure as hell isn't getting any but there would probably be none of these "we need to see the context every times with twitch clips" or whatever.
man, history really does repeat itself. racism does not need malicious intent.You just devalue that word by throwing it around so carelessly.
But he inherently benefits from the game being there. More so than pretty much any member of the community.Calls to remove it from EVO are a bit misguided. Skullgirls belongs to its community, it being in EVO is for their benefit, not Mikes.
They, was most likely still under contract.Shows why he stayed at the racist as fuck company Rick Fox bailed out on. I'm thankful that even though I've been gaming all these years I never succumbed to this token warrior behavior that many other black geeks seem to fall into.
He doesn't
Didn't he need like 1 million dollar to create a single character? Always knew he was a POS
Posts like this are why developers avoid this forum.People who con people are more likely to be racist, so I am not in the least surprised. I believe that guy was a con and a racist from the start
By the same token, is it fair to let Mike off the hook for something he did just because punishment could affect the game's presence at a tournament?No idea why ppl are attacking SonicFox here. It's Sonic's choice to forgive Mike. Mike asked for forgiveness as well. Additionally, outside of the joke, his track record is that of integrity.
People make mistakes. I think it is unfair to punish the Skullsgirl community for this as well, especially with a repentant MikeZ.
Hasn't he donated money to black charities as well?By the same token, is it fair to let Mike off the hook for something he did just because punishment could affect the game's presence at a tournament?
The answer is no.
The ball is in EVO's court now, and how they handle this is up to them. But if they do drop the game (the most extreme option) I'd hope that the Skullgirls community members have the sense to understand why it happened.
By that logic though Mike benefits from literally any tournament the fame has. If the tournament is not run by Mr. Wizard then it would be run by some other members as has been the case for years now and will probably always be the case.But he inherently benefits from the game being there. More so than pretty much any member of the community.
Shows why he stayed at the racist as fuck company Rick Fox bailed out on. I'm thankful that even though I've been gaming all these years I never succumbed to this token warrior behavior that many other black geeks seem to fall into.
SF also said that nobody has to accept Mike's apology, which is completely fine.Also think it's super silly to try and throw Sonicfox under the bus for coming to bat for their friend. It's their choice and they aren't saying they're speaking for everybody.
He already did.This is so fucking funny. Way to make yourself look like a complete ass, ha ha ha. But all he needs to do is apologize, it isn't a big deal.
SF uses They/Them, I understand thinking what they said was dumb as shit but let's try and refer to them properlyShows why he stayed at the racist as fuck company Rick Fox bailed out on. I'm thankful that even though I've been gaming all these years I never succumbed to this token warrior behavior that many other black geeks seem to fall into.
Whatever happens to Skullgirls, I can't say I have much faith in the same people who thought letting Infiltration back in was a good idea, honestlyThe ball is in EVO's court now, and how they handle this is up to them. But if they do drop the game (the most extreme option) I'd hope that the Skullgirls community members have the sense to understand why it happened.
SF uses They/Them, I understand thinking what they said was dumb as shit but let's try and refer to them properly
Whatever happens to Skullgirls, I can't say I have much faith in the same people who thought letting Infiltration back in was a good idea, honestly
this is why I love Twitch chat in small streams that aren't doing hive mind meming.
It's all good dude, thank youI'm sorry I didn't mean to refer to them incorrectly. I'll make the correction immediately.
You ain't lying. I'm very happy I'm not the "he's cool he can say nigga" black geek. I'll never want approval that bad.Shows why they stayed at the racist as fuck company Rick Fox bailed out on. I'm thankful that even though I've been gaming all these years I never succumbed to this token warrior behavior that many other black geeks seem to fall into.
Because our people in our country, of all ages, are risking injury to protest cops killing black people. "I can't breathe" is literally something that has happened multiple times times before. Cops are choking the shit out of black people. Sonicfox/purplesharpie telling everyone to relax literally makes things worse for black people. White people get away with shit too much already. Now I'm supposed to live and let be because of a twitlonger and a couple of black people said so? Shiiiiit. We haven't even seen the repercussions of them brushing this off to the side and I'm going to make sure I show up to say "I told you so".No idea why ppl are attacking SonicFox here. It's Sonic's choice to forgive Mike. Mike asked for forgiveness as well. Additionally, outside of the joke, his track record is that of integrity.
People make mistakes. I think it is unfair to punish the Skullsgirl community for this as well, especially with a repentant MikeZ.
SF did not tell anyone to relax. They said that exactly this.....You ain't lying. I'm very happy I'm not the "he's cool he can say nigga" black geek. I'll never want approval that bad.
Because our people in our country, of all ages, are risking injury to protest cops killing black people. "I can't breathe" is literally something that has happened multiple times times before. Cops are choking the shit out of black people. Sonicfox/purplesharpie telling everyone to relax literally makes things worse for black people. White people get away with shit too much already. Now I'm supposed to live and let be because of a twitlonger and a couple of black people said so? Shiiiiit. We haven't even seen the repercussions of them brushing this off to the side and I'm going to make sure I show up to say "I told you so".
This isn't a "mistake". He didn't let that slip out accidentally. He knew what he was going to say. Fuck everyone involved.
SF did not tell anyone to relax. They said that exactly this.....
...nobody was asked to relax and nobody was told to forgive Mike by SF. They forgave him based entirely on their own personal judgments and association and that's it. Nobody is being asked to agree with SF and they are not the be all end all of judgements and nowhere did SF imply otherwise.
So getting on their case about all this is not helpful. SF was asked what their personal feelings were on the matter and they gave them. Again, nobody was called to have the same feelings as them.