You do realize excusing poor reviews is just gonna end up giving them more ammo in the long run?
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Mike Ybarra, Corporate VP of Xbox, says critics of an Anthem area are “whining” and it is “embarrassing to review with such a lack of knowledge”
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Given he is pushing conspiracy theories about reviewers being corrupt in that post I don't think he minds that.
title should be verbatim what he said, anything else(other tweets) can be upto your interpretation as to the conclusion
MS has marketed a lot of games in the last year, I didn't see Ybarra defending Fallout 76. I think this is more to do with him genuinely liking the game and/or being good friends with Hudson so taking criticism on a personal level in response to that.
I'm pretty sure the thread title was written by one person.
Man has opinion on internet. Why is this thread-worthy? Oh he works for Xbox. Great, it's an excuse to shit on Microsoft. Cool. Carry on then.
In all seriousness everyone getting on their high horse about how dare you criticise reviewers must have forgotten Kane & Lynch 2 and the many, many times before and after where reviewers have missed the mark. Personally i have not taken reviews seriously since Edge gave Mario Kart Double Dash something ridiculously low like a 5 or something all those years ago. If this Mike guy is enjoying the game and has an opinion that differs from what some early access reviews are stating who literally gives a shit?
In all seriousness everyone getting on their high horse about how dare you criticise reviewers must have forgotten Kane & Lynch 2 and the many, many times before and after where reviewers have missed the mark. Personally i have not taken reviews seriously since Edge gave Mario Kart Double Dash something ridiculously low like a 5 or something all those years ago. If this Mike guy is enjoying the game and has an opinion that differs from what some early access reviews are stating who literally gives a shit?
MS has thrown all their eggs in the Shooter basket this quarter (Crackdown 3, Metro, Anthem and soon The Division 2) and I think so far they're not seeing much return, if only PR wise. So... Maybe they're getting frustrated?
Imagine if Division 2 faceplants too...
Edit: and I guess missing the Apex boat after having been fully on the Titanfall one is doubly frustrating.
Nobody is doing that. All we know about this review is that Ybarra said the reviewer couldn't figure out how to do a combo. A position echoed by streamers and posters in this thread, so how does that make it a bad review?
Look, if you want to critic poor reviews then do it. It works, like IGN's recent fuckery.
It should never come from corporate heads, for various reasons.
I think they meant his other Tweets that were clearly making an effort to discredit game critics. And were definitely his own words.
At least he had the restraint to not say watch streamers on mixer.
Just take the L, link to someone you paid to play the game and don't worry about reviews. There was no need to try and to discredit game reviewers
It's funny how "don't listen to critics, watch streamers" is pretty much the Republicans tactics when trying to swipe away criticisms and have people watch fox news
Just take the L, link to someone you paid to play the game and don't worry about reviews. There was no need to try and to discredit game reviewers
It's funny how "don't listen to critics, watch streamers" is pretty much the Republicans tactics when trying to swipe away criticisms and have people watch fox news
Well, If I'm not totally wrong, the game doesn't explain the combo system at all, maybe somewhere in the codes entries, but not during "normal" gameplay. It's totally fine if some people disagree on that point, but it is still doing a poor job at explaining or the lack of explaining for the combo system. I knew about it from earlier dev streams I think, so I knew what to look for, but still had to figure some stuff out. My friend had no clue after 30 hours, until I explained it to him.
Reviewers can very well miss stuff, same as a normal gamer. Sure, they should try to find out and figure out as much as possible, within the given time-frame. You can't expect a reviewer to go that in-depth as some Streamer/YouTuber that only plays these kind of games and does nothing else beside that. It's simply impossible.
My comment that you originally refered to was refering to someone who kept doubling down that the tasks were RNG, so that explains my response. I enjoy the quest design but think there needs to be more variety. The loading screens is not great and needs improved.
I don't recall him saying their review is worthless and I don't recall myself saying "all" reviewers are idiots. He's perfectly entitled to the criticism he dished out.
When standards slip you never know who to trust for an honest review anymore. I've completely given up on reviews myself personally. I don't think they've accurately represented a lot of games over the past few years, with some (i think it was either a polygon or kotaku article) even giving unfavourable reviews simply because the reviewer found the game too hard. You get a lot of other big publications writing reviews more about political agendas than actual gameplay. I'll be honest with you i think the industry is in a sad state right now but I don't want to expand on that to prevent getting banned for having an honest opinion.
Sure. That still doesn't make him wrong. There are reviewers out there who might be giving this game a worse review than it deserves simply because they've been incompetent with their research and haven't fully explored everything the game has to offer. As I mentioned before it's not like that hasn't happened before. You as a journalist should make sure your colleagues around the industry have the same high standards as yourself or else people will be left confused and unsure. Literally fake news 2.0.
He's not just any man though is he? Are you telling me that if Shaun Layden came out during Days Gone reviews and streams telling reviewers this and belittling their work compared to streamers that it wouldn't get ripped to shreds too? Come on...
There are some things that people in power shouldn't wade into.
Because reviewers are not streamers and posters? Do you think a reviewer's job carries more responsibility than a streamer or a poster on an online forum?
This is a discussion forum, not Wikipedia and the title isn't mischaracterising what he said, just lacking in info.
Agreed poor choice imo, but it depends where your view stands. Personally if I can pay money for a game and play it then it's out, doesn't matter if someone slaps an "early access" label on it because they're releasing hot. But many don't take that viewpoint - I disagree with it, but can see why some folks still differentiate it. Mike's clearly one of those as his view is likely shaped from the somewhat publisher orientated experience of his professional field.
Point being - I don't agree with Mike's view but it's his opinion at the end of the day and that's fine, I don't want to roast the guy for seeing things differently to me.
A reviewer should have a basic understanding of the game mechanics, even if they're poorly explained by the game.
Criticise the poor tutorial - don't criticise the game if you don't know how to play.
You do realise that criticism of Anthem will equally be seized on by Gamergaters, who have Bioware and EA as leading hate figures? Does that stop criticism by reviewers of the game, valid or otherwise? Of course not.
So why is it appropriate for reviewers to use their positions to personally attack someone for criticising them? To send their own loyal forum warriors into campaign against the heretic?
All the good will and press Phil Spencer has been working so hard on, don't squander that Mike.
Yes of course, and are you suggesting reviewers aren't allowed to criticise that part of a game is difficult to learn?
They have a financial agreement with one game and not the other.What changed? he was okay with Reviews 8 days ago?
"basic understanding of game mechanics"
Its literally never explained how it works, how is that the fault of the gamer reviewers?
If PROFESSIONALS can't figure it out, how many of the "less experienced" who play games will be able to?
Its a rightful criticism and an even worse hot take by Ybarra
Telling people to talk to their friends and get as close to a firsthand look as possible? Shocking.
Man, some of you are too much with the ms persecution complex. Like we just had a big ass thread about Shawn Layden, we've had them about other execs and other figures in gaming. It happens. Everyone doesn't have it out for your favorite company.
You don't give a shit, but you take the time to let everyone else know you don't instead of maybe skipping the thread. Boggling stuff.
Jesus, persecution complex much? It's not an excuse to shit on Microsoft. If anything, people are shitting on a corporate VP irresponsibly throwing press to the dogs.
You very clearly don't get it. It's not about "criticizing reviews", it's shitting on the press and making them a target for upset fanboys like yourself, even more after hate groups like GG use whatever "ethics" excuse to spread their bullshit views.
It's not the kind of language nor targeting that should come from someone in his position, end of. YOU can go ahead and criticize reviews for being inaccurate. Let alone the fact that the game itself doesn't teach how their combo system works to a competent degree, which is a point of contention in that specific review.
Get a fucking grip.
yes Shaun Layden complains about reviews of a PS4 exclusive would be very different than Mike Ybarra complains about reviews of a multi platform game
You freeze something, then hit it with your daggers. Difficult.
(A bit different if you're a ranger)
What? No way. This will pass like a fart in the wind by the end of the day.
Can you engage on the criticisms leveled about the game? All you're doing is complaining about fake news. It has no substance to it when the President does it, and it has none when you do either.
You are being disingenuous or are incapable of grasping context if that is how you are interpreting it.
