Mike Pence Cannot Block the Certification of Joe Biden’s Victory
Despite Trump’s calls for Pence to help overturn the election, the VP has no authority to refuse to ratify Biden’s Electoral College victory on Jan. 6.
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Mike Pence Cannot Block the Certification of Joe Biden’s Victory When the Senate Formally Counts Electoral College Votes on Jan. 6th
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You see on January 21, Biden will be put under secret arrest and will pretend to be president while Trump is the true leader. Those stupid liberals won't see what's coming!
Pence knows this, that's why he's scheduled to dip out of the country as soon as he certifies the result.
Bingo.. and he probably wants this to be over more than anyone.
Pence to head overseas Jan. 6 hours after formally declaring Biden the presidential victor
Pence will travel overseas hours after formally declaring that Biden beat Trump in November's presidential election.
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This man is a billionaire. He will never suffer consequences in his life.
He swindled an entire country into electing him president and all he has to do is quietly let himself be forgotten like what happens with every fucking Republican president, and he can't even do that. His ego won't allow him to.
He swindled an entire country into electing him president and all he has to do is quietly let himself be forgotten like what happens with every fucking Republican president, and he can't even do that. His ego won't allow him to.
Can a president just fire a vice-president like that? Asking because since Pence is also an elected official it surely has to be quite a bit harder than that?
Pence to head overseas Jan. 6 hours after formally declaring Biden the presidential victor
Pence will travel overseas hours after formally declaring that Biden beat Trump in November's presidential election.
I truly feel that him and Trump will hide out in Russia.
people like him are scared to travel internationally let alone live there. also why would russia want him
Good news, all the money in the world does you know good without good lawyers. He's also 1.1 billion in debt from shady sources and just burned his last couple legitimate lawyers he had left at the beginning of the month. Crazy lawyers don't keep you out of jail and the few sane ones left aren't dumb enough to work for someone who not only likely won't pay them but also has a cult that will lynch them if they fail
Russia would never give the two up. At least with Trump, he'd basically be buddy buddy with Putin, keeping his own ass safe.
People on the losing side always scramble to look for secret, eleventh hour escape hatches to avoid facing the music. I saw progressives do it in 2004, conservatives in 2008 and 2012, and progressives again in 2016.
The major difference is that in none of those instances did the candidate themselves engage in any of it. Kerry, McCain, Romney and Clinton all conceded within 24 hours. Trump is going to act like he really won until the day he dies.
Founders should have been way more rigid with all the procedural language(and leave nothing to interpretation), but I suppose they never expected American presidents/VPs to act in negative faith.
I remember in 08 in my high school civics class, right after the election the teacher was explaining to us the process with the Electoral College, and made a comment about how the election was technically only decided by the Electoral College. Immediately this conservative, douchebag jock's hand shoots up and he excitedly asks if this means there's a chance Obama won't become president, the teacher laughs him off and tells him a win as big as Obama's makes the Electoral College vote just a formality, and that was that.
I can't imagine the bullshit teachers in that same position today have to endure - especially in small towns where kids get poisoned by their parents' Fox News diets and worship at the cult of Trump. In fact, I think I read an article a few weeks ago about a civics teacher who talked about his experience with exactly that, where kids kept pelting him with questions about illegal votes and other fake news garbage.
The Vice President can't be fired by the President. If a VP falls out of a President's favor he or she can be effectively blocked out of the administration and then can retreat to a Congressional office as 'President of the Senate' for the remainder of their term, but never fired. That's one of the main advantages of being the VP, no matter what they can keep their job and status as next-in-line to assume the Presidency.
What's one more body amongst the heap of 300,000+?? He will without a hint of hesitation continue on and indirectly kill as many as it takes to get what he wants.
That profile picture...wow.The tweet (and shameless grift) that was retweeted by Donald:
Why is it always these assholes that have profile pictures of themselves in sunglasses?The tweet (and shameless grift) that was retweeted by Donald:
I've actually seen some of these people seriously arguing that will happen.
I have no faith in a normal transition at this point.
Trump will make Pence discount the votes and force the Supreme Court to overrule him.
It won't amount to anything but a stunt, but it'll be a stunt nonetheless.
Trump will make Pence discount the votes and force the Supreme Court to overrule him.
It won't amount to anything but a stunt, but it'll be a stunt nonetheless.
So what you're saying is, a deep sta---
Damn it.
And we're going to be hearing about how illegitimate the results of this election were for fucking decades, so what.
Constitutionally-speaking, the VP doesn't work for the President. They were both separately elected by the Electoral College. The VP can only be impeached.
I hope Nancy Pelosi makes it clear if Pence doesn't certify he'll be impeached for an unconstitutional act. I get at this point it doesn't functionally matter, but it'll be a mark on him for posterity and make a precedent in the future that it's not allowed for a VP to nullify the results.
All the smaller decisions (by judges, commissioners, secretaries of state, etc) that rejected the coup were informed by social pressure.
Calling out Trump's bullshit authoritarian activity was helpful
Pence isn't insane like Trump is, I doubt he'd do anything even if he could. He fucking sucks but he doesn't want the entire country going up in flames.
Reasonable move to leave the country immediately after. He might stay abroad for months, years, or forever.
Reasonable move to leave the country immediately after. He might stay abroad for months, years, or forever.
It's so fucked up that this matter is even being discussed. The Trump cult has destroyed our norms and created a toehold for fascism in this country.
Nah you won't. As soon as the MAGA crowd gets bored and moves on to the next mega-scandal (!!!), this entire thing will be memory-holed.
It's actually eye-opening to review a list of absurd things that were considered to be a huge deal by the Right over the years, only to disappear into the mists of history when they were no longer useful. Remember Jade Helm? Migrant caravans and sending the National Guard to the border?
The only aspect of this that will last beyond a few years, let alone decades, is what a travesty of misinformation and conspiracy peddling it was. That is what will make the history books.
