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Mika on Morning Joe called Pompeo a Butt Boy
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OP is six words long, and not a single word of it actually says anything about the title. If nothing else, it's a really terrible OP post since it doesn't even link the segment or where it might appear after a delay on their website or anything.
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i read this post in Willy's voice in my head and it is so good.
Give me a break. If someone doesn't know something and asks, they're seeking information. It's not your place to be a jerk to them and call them ignorant when they ACKNOWLEDGE they didn't know the context. It's perfectly acceptable to just acknowledge the OP as bare bones.
I knew who all these people are, but hadn't heard "butt boy" as a slur before. Glad I didn't ask what it meant, lest I be attacked and called "ignorant" for asking a question and not rushing to google to do some investigation through Urban Dictionary which can offer literally dozens of definitions meaning completely different things between them.
It's crazy how so many people want others to be more sensitive to plight but if you don't know what the plight is you gotta gtfo and not learn about it... But if your not woke next time I'mma give you mad shit.
ITT a lot of people that didn't know it was a gay slur.
Count me in on that group. 31 y/o and might have only heard the term once or twice in my life and was always interpreted as "asskisser".
Count me in on that group. 31 y/o and might have only heard the term once or twice in my life and was always interpreted as "asskisser".
Requiring Google to participate in a thread is the first sign you've failed as a topic creator.
Butt boy is a gay slur? I've heard asskisser and ass man with neither being gay slurs, but never butt boy in any context. People make these up too fast for me to keep up.
It makes sense that it's a slur, but that was my first thought as well. It does seem like something she'd say from what I've watched. They don't seem the brightest, at least as TV show hosts. Other than the occasional entertainment value of getting under Trump's skin, I never really got much from them.
Regardless of whether or not you knew what the term implied, it's really clear that Mika did. And it's also really clear that NBC does.
I'm another one who didn't know it was a gay slur.
However, using that kind a language on a news program seems completely unprofessional. I hate how Trump has debased the news media even more. His classlessness has invaded many arenas.
However, using that kind a language on a news program seems completely unprofessional. I hate how Trump has debased the news media even more. His classlessness has invaded many arenas.
This thread reminds of the 2004 Jon Stewart/Tucker Carlson Crossfire confrontation that got Tucker banished into the Phantom Zone.
I've always assumed "butt boy" means "asskisser" but regardless, it's a dumb, juvenile thing for an adult to say.
I've always assumed "butt boy" means "asskisser" but regardless, it's a dumb, juvenile thing for an adult to say.
I'd believe it, just surprised I didn't hear it considering the extremely homophobic nature of where I grew up. I definitely heard some weird ones.
Yep, only ever heard it in the context of someone being a ass-kissing subordinate. Though I suppose it makes sense as a gay slur.
Why do so many people think their personal ignorance is relevant at all.
Morning Joe is a show about Reagan-Era conservatives who hate Trump. They are not subject to concern-trolling 'gotcha' PC outrage like that because up until Trump, they were right along with the GOP agenda. A lot of times, they goad GOP figures who portray themselves as Alpha Masculine tough guys with terms like this in order to get under their skin. "Butt Boy" and "Putin's Cock Holder" (Colbert) are just some of the examples we've seen. They are used deliberately because the party of ridicule is so openly homophobic. It's very immature, but I guess that's what discourse is like nowadays. Although, I shouldn't say 'nowadays' because tongue-in-cheek allusions to politicians being the 'passive' partner in a sexual relationship with their benefactors goes back to ancient Rome. Marc Anthony said this about Octavius in regards to Caesar and vice-versa. Funny how things never change.
Stop with this pretentious bullshit, so many people are surprised because it's usage differs in a lot of regions/situations, which makes it relevant. This isn't some coordinated attack on the credibility of people explaining that it's a slur so drop your hackles.
To illustrate how common the ignorance is?
Otherwise it would be easy to portray Mika as uniquely ignorant.
Never, EVER, heard it said that wasn't meant to be homophobic ever since I was a kid. It is unbelievable to me that someone could hear it and not know it was a gay slur. It is right there, there is no other context.
She knew.
Probably because context matters. Implying if they didn't know the meaning, it's possible she didn't either.
Nah, it's just a bunch of goofy ass posts. What do y'all want, a merit badge? LOL
You just told people to Google the word buttboy? lol.
I doubt anything major will come of this. I feel this thread indicative of how very little people even understood it as a slur.
Honestly side-eyeing you for side-eyeing people who claim they didn't know the term.
*looks around*
T-... to discuss the news story?
What uhh.. what do you want?
I'll never understand how people have so many slurs in the chamber. I need to get out more as I haven't heard of it either.
I didn't know that 'butt boy' was gay slang. Always thought it was like the equivalent of 'Ass kisser' or the more polite but similar insinuation 'brown noser.'
When you're familiar with something and think of it one way for a very long time, it's common to not think of that thing in another way.
Upon reading here it's a gay slur, I immediately went ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh and made the connection. But if asked "what's a butt boy" before today, without the framing of it as a potential gay slur, I'd have said "an ass kisser".
It's nice to learn things.
Your "side eye" comment, a thinly veiled insult along the lines of "suspect" that lacks the courage to be direct in calling someone ignorant or a bigot or an ignorant bigot, reveals that you look down upon people learning new things. You shouldn't dislike learning so much.
As someone who used to be a homophobic grade school asshole, I can absolutely say that the term "buttboy" has only ever been used as a slur and is interchangeable with "fag" and "faggot". There is no other context where the term means anything other than a slur.
Considering that the term doesn't exist outside of a pejorative context, it's safe to assume that her use of it was both deliberate and mean spirited.
Considering that the term doesn't exist outside of a pejorative context, it's safe to assume that her use of it was both deliberate and mean spirited.
Miss me with that shit. As a person in the affected group I don't owe them the education.
The TrumpXPutin stuff is homophobic too.
I'll never understand the need to use slurs against Trump and his cronies when there's so many more truthful words that would sting them even worse. Words like racist. Liar. Traitor.
This seems kind of a reach to me. Like I don't like it or the implications but I'm not seeing much of a difference between this and how SNL has treated Trump x Putin. Not downplaying anything for those actually upset it just seems too soft for me.
Oh stop you aren't being victimized in this thread by people finding something out they didn't know before, and you aren't being asked to educate anyone. You missed the entire point of cagey's post.
I won't miss you with anything, as evidenced in my direct statement to you.
You should have the courage to insult people directly if you wish to insult people, instead of relying on passive-aggressive language.
This is the type of crap that derails threads too often around here. No one is willfully insulting you by stating they thought the meaning of the phrase was something else. And no one asked you to educate them. It's highly pluasible people thought it was similar to brown-noser or asskisser. The only person here insulting others is you implying that they're liars. So go ahead and miss us all with that shit.
Keep calling me a coward in a thread about homophobic slurs. Ok.
I don't believe them. I think it's a veiled attempt to defend a woman who doesn't like trump from some people. "Well I didn't know either" doesn't negate the damage done (and still being done) by the slur. "Buttboy" has always been meant one way.
Disgusting. She needs to make a proper, on air, apology. This is never acceptable.
Also, unrelated to this specifically, cancel Morning Joe ASAP.
Also, unrelated to this specifically, cancel Morning Joe ASAP.
To you and me it's always meant one thing. Clearly to others it meant something else. I'm not willing to disbelieve them as their reasoning seems plausible. I do however believe based on her tone and context, she knew exactly what she was saying and she should be reprimanded. I couldn't care less if she hates Trump or not.
Gotta say, I never knew it was a gay slur either. I recall using it when I was a little kid (like 8). Since I'm in my mid thirties, I just wouldn't use a term so childish, anyway. I literally thought it was synonymous with "doodoo head", like another poster in here intimated. Good to know what it REALLY means, though.
Oh come on. Have more faith in people. The term is so fucking silly, it really sounds like some kindergarten bullshit. Just stop. And I'm not defending her either. Who uses the term "buttboy" in a news/opinion program anyway? It's fucking stupid, and she SHOULD know.
Oh come on. Have more faith in people. The term is so fucking silly, it really sounds like some kindergarten bullshit. Just stop. And I'm not defending her either. Who uses the term "buttboy" in a news/opinion program anyway? It's fucking stupid, and she SHOULD know.
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