Big freaking difference between yesterday and today in terms of market share. What Microsoft has done here is basically kneecap the industry in order to dunk on Sony.
A temporary boost to gamepass value is not worth what has happened here.
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Microsoft to acquire Activision Blizzard
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A temporary boost to gamepass value is not worth what has happened here.
You can and will still be able to buy games on PC or Xbox, you're getting ahead of yourself to make it seems more dramatic than it is. The trajectory of Activision was on a huge decline even not talking about all the vile crap goin on with employees. Their IP output was getting stale and limited, I'm hoping now it gets better but you seem far too focused on Playstation losing some marketshare, which they are currently dominating. Perhaps maybe in the future some will think Xbox forst then Switch or Playstation second because right now it seems like Playstation has become the default platform, which is also not good for consumers in the end.
Next month it wiill still be almost impossible to get a PS5, let's not get ahead of ourselves. I think it's difficult for some to imagine MS ever being the market leader that Sony has held for a very long time.
I didn't say that, I said game pass walled garden. What if I don't want to be under Microsoft walled garden. I don't have that choice anymore in a year from now. Microsoft might be playing nice ball with valve for now, But once they get enough consolidation I don't expect that friendship to last.
1. Do you seriously think Microsoft isn't selling all of your data already?
That is part of the subsidy for all streaming services. They collect user data en masse, mine it themselves for future content programming, and sell it to anyone willing to pay.
The only option here is to not provide your data, but as that is part and parcel of the service agreement to even use most of these services the only real winning move is to never play.
2. Microsoft was investigated for, charged with, and found to be guilty of anti-trust. They only got a slap on the wrist but they did literally everything Facebook has done by buying Instagram, Whatsapp, etc., and more by actively forcing the software layer. If Facebook is more malicious than Microsoft today it isn't because Microsoft took the high ground, its simply because the means weren't at their disposal.
I imagine there would be a massive interest for these games under Gamepass
They are not the biggest, so why do people think MS is having monopoly problems?
Actvision literally assigned all their studios to COD work. I don't care who did the buying, but a change of hands is better for the developers and IP then endless COD churn.
They bought Halo and Gears too. Forza is a weird one but I'd call that home grown. MS Flight Sim is their oldest gaming IP which is even older than Windows and the latest entry to that was fantastic.
Ah yes, Microsoft's cloud, Microsoft's console and a PC with Microsoft's operating system. So much choice /s
User Warned: platform wars rhetoric
Because the console they want to "win" just got their legs cut off.
Sorry, Call of Duty is an anime game now
You can now see a realistic Attack on Titan thanks to Call of Duty: Warzonewww.pcgamesn.com
Time to buy my first CoD game ever, I see.
How does it make sense if there are bigger gaming companies than MS?
It's not a given but it's very clear MS and Activision leadership have very different definitions to what success for those sorts of games is.
MS would have been over the moon had they performed similarly and created as much critical acclaim as they have recently. Same goes for the Tony hawk remaster. But to activision they were massive disappointments and they'd be better off assisting COD development
That's why if you're Sony, you make the first move and try to thaw relations. The early 90s are lets be honest a distant spec in the rear view mirror of all these companies.
At the very least if I'm Sony and I'm seeing what I'm seeing, I send out some feelers to Nintendo. Throw out some friendly advances, try to at least thaw things a bit.
If MS ever cuts a deal with Nintendo ... well now you're completely and utterly fucked.
Sony still has one advantage over MS if it ever came to that ... they are a Japanese company and Nintendo is still a very stubborn Japanese company, they probably could be more inclined to agree to a Japanese partner than an American one. Just make sure the contract doesn't screw Nintendo over, lol.
I said xbox walled garden..not PC. I don't want to have to consolidate on one console Under a brand that has let me down plenty of times Within the last few years.
And as much as some are salty about the implications of said tweet, there's some truth to it. Xbox is essentially the kid at school who's never been creative or smart enough to really shine above or lead their peers, hasn't done a particularly good job in terms of studies and academia for the last several decades, but who has a super wealthy dad through which they can essentially buy themselves in to relevancy.
But it is what it is, and in the short term at least, it bodes well for consumers in terms of Game Pass offerings. I know I'll be playing these games on Game Pass and saving money lol.
In the long term however, when Xbox potentially has a stranglehold on the subscription market, many key previously multiplat IP, their all digital future etc, well, let's just say I'm not so confident we'll have nearly the same value proposition, and expect GP price hikes up the gazoo. If Phil is ever replaced by a Bobby Kotick type CEO as well...
Because some people have no clue how these things work and want to find something to hang on to the idea of this not actually happening.
It feels like that, it reminds me of 'is this even legal'. But I'm not a financial expert, quite the opposite.
I know the other companies aren't, but EA? That wouldn't be almost as big as Activion?
Yeah that's true.
it's those two games, and some other mobile games that are the big deals here.
I think other activision-blizzard properties are in a lull compared to what they were previously.
No, publishers are not "just a collection of devs," especially one the size of AB. That's a ridiculous statement.
Zero reason to think that's gonna change.
No because if they can buy Activision they can buy just about anyone. It doesn't matter if Microsoft isn't the biggest now. They have the money, and this proves they have the drive to acquire a large portion of the gaming sphere.
Why would you post a tweet from a supremely toxic person such as SaltiestGaming?
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The only way Nintendo and Sony would work together is if the Switch is involved as a major pillar in the future.
Like, the Switch becomes the Portable/Hybrid brand for PS and both Nintnedo and PS games are on both system brands.
Aka never
You think Phil is going to stop expanding the reach of MSGS and instead contract it down to one closed console? Good call.
It's better but that doesn't mean it'll be great is what I'm saying. Yeah these dead games will now exist under MS, I'm saying that I hope they get the same amount of love, shine and development as they rightfully deserve. Given it's MS, we'll see what happens.
Gonna call 100% bullshit on this without receipts. The acquisition is absolutely going to happen.
It's not even about console wars at this point. This is just bad for the industry. Microsoft could have taken that 70 billion and launched numerous studios to make new IPs that could have been innovative and refreshing while still providing immense value to their Gamepass and their customers. Instead they spent 70 billion on a Call of Duty factory and a handful of other generically popular money makers like Overwatch and WoW.
This is just bad for the industry as a whole regardless of which console you own. It sucks more for PlayStation people obviously, but everyone is going to get screwed by this is one way or another.
Regulators step in when:
1) they actually give a damn
2) there aren't still dozens and dozens of publishers in existence, regardless of their presence
yeah this is ridiculous, as if MS and their lawyers don't know what they're doing.
I'm not as pessimistic. Games like Tony Hawk remaster and Crash 4 performed quite well. If the studios are still in tact and the support duties they were performing can be absorbed elsewhere it makes sense to get them working on different projects. "All eggs in one basket" always seemed like a bad idea to me... But this is just outside observations so I don't really know.
Here's the problem, Sony is not a Trillion dollar company that can keep there or company afloat if there isn't any 3rd parties on their consoles. If enough companies are being bought out from Microsoft that basically gives them control of the console market, Sony will fail long term (let's be serious, as much as I like their 1st/2nd party games, Their sales are not enough to keep that company afloat for their playstation division.)
Then your only choice at that point is either Nintendo or Microsoft. And nintendo has their own market separate from Sony and Microsoft.
So technically the only thing they would be competing against is themselves. Your only hope would be someone from a company like Tencent or Apple to jump into the console marketplace.
It's way bigger than the others, but no, it still wouldn't be as big as this.
Activision is a better fit for where they are going in the future.
Is Microsoft's Activision Blizzard acquisition really about the metaverse?
Microsoft calls it a metaverse move, which is already 2022's most overused term.
www.cnet.com
Oh, it absolutely would appeal to a lot of companies.
Facebook - remove a VR competitor before VR is big enough for regulators to care while building a foothold into the various other media markets.
Amazon, who are pushing Luna and own Twitch, have struggled to actually make games on their own. They also have a video streaming service that needs content. They have a music branch that would benefit very much from an internal rate on licensing. And they have a consumer electronics branch that would both benefit greatly from the Sony brand cache and also the wide array of patents Sony's R&D/sensors division owns for microphones, speakers, camera lenses, etc..
Apple? Take all of the above and replace Luna and Twitch with Apple Gaming. Probably care more about he music, would see the electronics brand as the closest "known quality" label they'll get to buy to expand their own offerings.
Google - Again, all the same factors. Would care less about the video content, but probably more about the actual video games (as an avenue to greater user data collection).
Netflix - if they want to get to the next size tier they need to diversify their portfolio, video games is the obvious direction there, and Sony could give them a springboard into making their own streaming boxes.
Tencent - who knows if they actually have the money, but if Japan would let it happen I'm sure the PRC would find enough between the couch cushions to make it happen.
Disney would even be a good fit if they want to expand the portfolio, and they have existing relationship across Sony's two most important lines of business. Just think of all the in-house utilization Disney could manufacture with Sony's massive music rights catalog.
1. Way to not even try to disguise console warring by posting a tweet from a Sony fanboy.
2. Steve Jobs and Apple did the samething.
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