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Microsoft Surface |OT| - Style, Performance, and Creativity in a Variety of Windows 10 Hardware
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MS will replace it for $500So my cat knocked my surface off my desk and this happened.
It still powers on but I'm boned right? The cracks keep spreading with each touch
Thanks!! I love swapping between desktop and laptop and tablet form factors. I use my PC just like I use my Nintendo Switch!
I suspect the SP7 battery is about the same as SP6 in real world experience! We're a long way from the crappy battery on my Surface Pro 4.
Looks like the Pro X is getting slammed in reviews.
I wish MS would get their shit together when it comes to ARM. If you are going to go in on ARM and this is their second attempt, you can't come in half assed. Looks like that the case once again. Win32 runs like crap I guess and an iPad Pro still has better benchmarks.
I wish MS would get their shit together when it comes to ARM. If you are going to go in on ARM and this is their second attempt, you can't come in half assed. Looks like that the case once again. Win32 runs like crap I guess and an iPad Pro still has better benchmarks.
Yeah the good parts of reviews are basically "It's a really nice design." Everything else (app compatibility, battery life, speed, all relative to the $1,000 price tag) are fairly negative. I see no real reason someone would buy this over a SP7 or iPad Pro.
This excerpt from the Verge review seems completely unacceptable to me. And yes, MS is addressing it but the device is available to buy right now.
Can I get some advice from dock owners? I have the first Surface Laptop and I'm very happy with it, but it only has one USB port. For most things, I can just use a cheap little Anker USB hub, but I tried recently to record video off a USB webcam and record audio from an audio interface (UMC404HD) and the video stuttered. It was fine when hooked up directly. I know I probably need a better hub, and so I'm interested in the dock. Does anyone have experience using it with such devices? Or should I just borrow my boyfriend's laptop when needed?
Until MS decides to go all in on ARM, it will never happen.
so a major shift in cpu usage or Intel and AMD need to get off their ass and develop mobile chipsets again that can compete with ARM.
looks like Apple will probably have to show MS how it's done when they move OSX eventually to ARM. (iPad native apps will probably work out of the box)
MS made an official dock for the first and 2nd gen surface Pro's if that's what you are using.
This is still my work setup! Been using it all year like this and I love it. I wonder how the Surface Pro X will be with external monitors, etc.
Just popping in here to say, 'oh hey, a Marina and the Diamonds fan!'.
I got three different Surface devices over the years, and whilst they are/were worthwhile as a halfway laptop, especially my most recent Surface (Surface Pro in 2017), I wasn't happy with them as a tablet.
Got my first iPad earlier this year (iPad Pro 11") and it's the best tablet, ever.
Right, I know about the official docks. Currently I'm using a cheap hub from Amazon. I'm wondering if the official docks would be able to manage video and audio devices over USB without stuttering. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
You're probably running into various issues with USB with both power and bandwidth! Is the dock powered and USB 3? Are your cables okay? I have the official dock but I don't know how much it helps, as my Surface chugs plenty when I throw lots at it.
You're right, but there's much more to a Touchscreen than working as a tablet. The sole reason I use the surface is for pen support. I'm also fond of the way I can remove the keyboard when using it on a desktop.
Man, all three new computers MS released this year have been disappointing. The Surface Laptop 3 is a budget laptop at a premium price, the Surface Pro 7 is a dated looking spec refresh with lesser battery life, and the X is a toy that is relatively as capable as a $200 Chromebook.
Hoping the Neo and Duo are good next year.
Hoping the Neo and Duo are good next year.
That's what I expected. The hub I was using is not externally powered, though it is USB3. Cables all work when plugged directly into the laptop. It wasn't so much a processing issue on the laptop's end, at least not that I can tell, since the programs (OBS and Reaper) were running just fine; it really seemed like the hub just wasn't able to transmit the data from the two devices simultaneously. Just wanted to see if others had tested the dock in a similar use case before I drop $150 on it.
don't need to drop $150. Just find a cheaper powered usb 3 hub.
2019's Surfaces are a mix of dusty refreshes and awkward experimental hardware. the surface pro 7 looks like a solid update, but I worry about Microsoft losing interest in the x86 Surfaces.
The Neo and Duo will be the same technology as the X, so temper your expectations!
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The Neo is running an Intel Lakefield x86 CPU. If it has a closed down app situation then that's a self inflicted wound from MS, it's not running ARM.
The Neo is running an Intel Lakefield x86 CPU. If it has a closed down app situation then that's a self inflicted wound from MS, it's not running ARM.
Oh! I had no idea that the Neo was Intel. Good to know.
As for Duo, that's true, I forgot it was Android.
My Pro 7 (i7 G7) performs quite nicely, although I've definitely noticed the so-so battery life. My biggest struggle was finding a type cover to match the black model, eventually I went with black too which looks OK.
Seeing some gaming footage of the Surface Pro 7 has me nicely jealous, but I don't plan to replace my SP6 for quite a while.
The battery life on the Surface Pro 6 isn't anywhere close to the stats they claim. Apparently Microsoft changed their metric to be more realistic and include activity and wifi, rather than just playing a local video file.
The i7 models are always battery hungry! Nice to have the power though. How is gaming on
The battery life on the Surface Pro 6 isn't anywhere close to the stats they claim. Apparently Microsoft changed their metric to be more realistic and include activity and wifi, rather than just playing a local video file.
I can get consistently above 60fps in Doom 2016 if I go to 1280x800 at like 60-70% res scale or something. I forget the exact specifics. It's a touch blurry, but less so than the Switch version in handheld, and at a consistent 60fps which is delicious and the low settings on PC are technically higher than what the Switch uses too. If you don't mind 30 you can make it look very crisp indeed.
If there is a Surface Pro 8 next year, that should be another boost in gaming performance, so definitely don't go 6->7. Intel's Tigerlake CPUs will clock higher ("10nm+") and have up to 96 EUs versus up to 64EUs on icelake. It may not be a truly massive boost like that would imply (like not actually a 50% perf uplift) but any improvement over the Pro 7 series is just gravy.
last week i ordered a surface laptop 3 cause they finally had the ADM with 32GB of ram available and listed on the site. Also they were, and still are running 300 bucks off surface products.
I love it. i love how light it is, the keyboard is good, typing with it now. Really happy with it.
I love it. i love how light it is, the keyboard is good, typing with it now. Really happy with it.
Wow, that's a lot of RAM! Which material/colour did you get? The Surface laptop 3 is really nice.
I got the black. And yea it's really nice.
I had 32gb of ram in my old laptop and wasn't going to downgrade. Between running hyperv sometimes and lightroom/photoshop I use it.
Current Surface Book 2 models are ancient, and are overdue for an update.
Where the hell are the thunderbolt 3 surface tablets? I might upgrade my ancient SP2 once its standard.
I'm in the exact same spot as you, and I'm waiting for the next Surface Book. I can't justify buying the current version when I feel like we're so close to a refresh.
Honestly I wanna upgrade to a 3 for the "ehehe new" factor whenever it's a thing but I'm... frustrated by how well my Book 2 15" is still chuggin along. I have basically no complaints, power-wise. Don't buy a Book 2, you'll be too happy with it.
Heads up, just today this happened:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Micro...i7-1065G7-and-NVIDIA-Max-Q-GPUs.452475.0.html
Microsoft is making two new devices with a laptop CPU (Intel Core i7-1065G7) and a laptop GPU (GTX 1650 Max-Q and GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q). There is only one type of device Microsoft makes with specs like those: The Surface Book. So these two are probably the Surface Book 3 (a 13 inch with a 1650 Max-Q and a 15 inch with 1660Ti Max-Q).
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Yeah SB3 rumors are hot right now. So I'd definitely wait as a new device has to be incoming ASAP.
So I'm thinking about a surface laptop 3. I need a windows machine for work. It's kind of between the XPS 13 and laptop 3 but the laptop 3 is 300 bucks cheaper right now for the same specs. I also like the taller aspect ratio on the surface laptop 3. Any major issues or anything with this laptop before I pull the trigger.
The XPS 13 now has a 16:10 screen I think. Also buy the machine where you can change the battery if you need to.
As long as you don't get the Ryzen version, you are good with the Surface.
Definitely hold out for the SB3!
Surface Pro 7 is also very nice if you want to save money with your existing keyboard and pen.