Microsoft is testing 1080p xCloud streams for Xbox Game Pass cloud gaming
One of xCloud's primary limitations is about to go away.
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Microsoft is gearing up to bump Xbox Game Pass cloud streaming to 1080p HD, up from its 720p limitation
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Interesting! Glad to see it. I always assumed this is what they were waiting for with PC streaming and such. Yes, the next question is definitely if and when 4K streaming will come. I do wonder whether this is ACTUALLY using Series X blades or if this is just getting more out of the existing Xbox One blades.
If they are switching to Series X architecture, higher resolution is just one improvement we should. Perhaps even more significant to user experience will be way faster load times and better frame rates.
I am curious how they're doing it. Because original discussions sounded like they'd be using Series X blades to essentially emulate four One S consoles? Excited to learn more.
I am curious how they're doing it. Because original discussions sounded like they'd be using Series X blades to essentially emulate four One S consoles? Excited to learn more.
It's very far off. As long as xcloud is based on Xbox one S hardware it won't be.
I never use xcloud as of now because it sux
720p was trash 1080p will be better
Hopefully the bitrate will be much improved
But most important. The hardware used. Xbox one s is Uber trash
The rumor is that they are transitioning to Series X hardware for XCloud, and that this is a side effect.
"Reports have suggested that Microsoft is planning to upgrade the Xbox cloud streaming servers from Xbox One architecture to Xbox Series X architecture over the course of this year, and we may have started to see some of the fruits of that labor."
I didn't even think that was a rumor, just the actual confirmed plan. Though I wonder how much the chip shortage is going to effect the plan
By rumor I mean that it is happening now. It is definitely the plan eventually.
The good news on that front is for the Xcloud blades they can use chips that did not quite make the cut for home consoles. Basically some of them will have less CUs but will be overclocked to compensate. Extra noise and heat is of no concern in a data center.
I think it will be even better when more Xbox games support native keyboard and mouse inputs on console as well honestly. That was one thing about Stadia and Luna that interested me a lot, that I could play with keyboard and mouse on PC or with a controller on my phone with no real disconnect
I almost feel like the Gyro testing is bigger news for me and could warrant a thread. I would love to see the next Xbox controller have gyro support, then all three major companies would have gyro support, and gyro aiming would become more mainstream.
Using series x to emulate 4 one s consoles will only be viable for last gen games and even some of those are not 1080p.
The new and shiny series x games that will entice people to pay for xcloud will be series x only, that on top of the other benefits like loading times, fps and resolution being much better.
Yes but they can also emulate One X on the Series X to get old games with those benefits. I wonder if it will become a perk for Ultimate or what not.
Maybe. My country never got Stadia or PSNow. Hell we don't even have Disney+, so eh. Can only hope
1080p is very nice for tablets and phones! I even find 1080p nice enough on my 15'' laptop screen more often than not. Anything beyond will be something for later, IMO. Also wondering how XSX production shortage might affect the xCloud server upgradings given that the chip and semiconductor industry are just so tight in supply now.
One x is just one s with higher resolution, it wont run new games, have better loading times or framerates either.
And I also do not remember them saying the series x could emulate the series x to where it makes sense, if it is 1 to 1 emulation and you cant even emulate two one x consoles, what is even the point?
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I think that's the hope with xcloud and goal for MS as well. More games reaching more gamers.
The One X is not just a resolution buff over One S. Often the graphics settings are much higher. Plus One X has performance modes in many instances that runs at higher frame rates.
And the Series X offers inherent loading improvements, even when emulating One S or One X, because of the SSD. Tests at the start of the generation shows massive loading time
improvements on games that were not even optimized.
I am confused what you mean in the second part when you say "Series X could emulate the Series X"? The Series X console runs backwards compatibility at One X settings, if that's what you mean.
I edited it, I meant with one series x blade you wouldnt be able to emulate 2 one x consoles, and at that point there is no scalability advantage, just do series x games anyway.
It's an issue with all of the Xbox brand, they don't cover as much countries as PlayStation sadly, like the MENA region, Asia and Eastern Europe. Which is a shame since Game Pass is a really good service for most people.
I've been testing their Android app and have been extremely impressed with how well it works. The input latency is mostly negligible, the stream quality is excellent too, seems like a real, viable alternative to play some games.
Can't wait for the windows app too, I feel like that will work better than playing on my phone.
Can't wait for the windows app too, I feel like that will work better than playing on my phone.
Microsoft really about to become the de facto leader in game streaming by simply letting Google and Amazon trip themselves up.
Amazing
Amazing
no the servers don't use exact XSX hardware and the board layout is different since it's designed to run inside a server blade.
Can you stream on a desktop/laptop yet? That's one thing that Playstation really has on Microsoft at this moment you can stream PS4 and PS5 stuff from your consoles directly on to your desktop devices as well as doing PS Now streaming. For as much as people try to clown on PS Now's offerings not being as robust as Gamepass the fact that EVERY single game on that library is streamable to basically any device you have is fantastic.
This is true but Sony need to offer a mobile app for PSNow as well. 1080 streaming would also be welcomed like MS is doing soon.
they are doing something like that
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Microsoft’s Xbox Game Streaming app for Windows includes touch controls, gyro, and more
This app lets you stream games from Xbox consoles and xCloud
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it's coming with the web/ios webapp release. it's literally in the first post
I wouldn't quite throw the white flag on Amazon yet, but Google certainly seem to be imploding.
Microsoft have been smart with xCloud thus far - being slow and deliberate, making sure to manage expectations at every stop along the way, starting it off as a toss-in beta feature for Game Pass Ultimate, etc.
I suspect they'll stay at 1080p for a long while, because I think Spencer still sees xCloud as a supplement to a console or PC experience, and not (yet) a primary means to engage in the Xbox platform. I think 1080p would mostly cover that goal for now. 720p always felt a bit too low, but made sense as a starting point to test.
Gears 5 on XCloud using Touch Controls already has Gyro Aiming.
Check it yourself.
Sadly, no support for using with Controller though.
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Up until the XSX release, you could stream every title you own via the Xbox Companion app on PC. It still works with the X1 consoles, but for the XSX specifically, we have to wait for this new app to launch it seems.
Those people are usually the ones who don't actually use game streaming and are only it in for the platform wars.
Go to placed like the xcloud subreddit and you will see how many people have issues with xcloud due to poor device support/software issues.
But this news is good and hopefully xcloud will be better soon.