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Microsoft Has the Goal of "Remove Barriers to Entry in the Software and Hardware Space". Could we See Gamepass Hit Switch/Playstation This Gen?

PS9

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Just reading about how Microsoft currently has two major goals: remove barriers to entry in the software space, and remove barriers to entry in the hardware space.

A major way to achieve this is to no longer require a Xbox or gaming PC to access Gamepass.

I remember Jim Ryan saying that news is coming when asked how Sony is reacting to Gamepass. What if they're not trying to compete but integrate Xbox titles into PlayStation and Switch? Gamepass subs would go through the roof.
 
Pryme

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It's not coming to Switch or PlayStation.
Putting it on Smart TVs achieves that aim of 'removing barriers'.


PS9 said:
A major way to achieve this is to no longer require a Xbox or gaming PC to access Gamepass.
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You don't need an xbox or PC to access Gamepass today. It's already on mobile phones via streaming.
it'll be on low power laptops and smart TVs via streaming.

PS9 said:
What if they're not trying to compete but integrate Xbox titles into PlayStation and Switch? Gamepass subs would go through the roof.
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When you realize this means making xbox fully third party, you'd see how unlikely this is.

Lord Fanny said:
This gen? No. At some point in the relatively near future. Maybe.
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'Relatively near future' is this gen.
 
Stat

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A Gamepass like system on Playstation? Sure. (Though isn't NOW just that)

But no way Sony is letting MS come onto their system and taking a cut. Even with Sony's 30% cut, MS probably steals a good chunk of things like third party / other sales.

Nintendo? Not a chance.


Pryme said:
It's not coming to Switch or PlayStation.
Putting it on Smart TVs achieves that aim of 'removing barriers'.
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Yep. This is the play here imo.
 
Vinc

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Absolutely not. Sony and Nintendo have their own ecosystems, and would sooner launch their own service than accept Game Pass on it.
 
PlanetSmasher

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They won't. Sony and Nintendo would gain very little by giving Microsoft a free pass to take their third party software sales away.
 
hydrophilic attack

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it's not coming to platforms where other people are able to charge for the privilege of playing online and they can't

oh and like others brought up, sony and nintendo don't want to lose part of their 30% cut on games to microsoft
 
LinkStrikesBack

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This isn't the first time this fruit loopy insane suggestion has come up.

Do you guys actually just not understand how much money Nintendo and Sony would be giving up to do that? Sony makes billions in profit from third party sales, and no amount of money Microsoft could offer them would be worth giving it up
 
808s & Villainy

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You realize Nintendo and Sony would have to approve it on their consoles, right? How does that make any sense? For them to essentially cannibalize their own 3rd party software sales???
 
RestEerie

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what's with forum's fixation of thinking MS as the 'savior' of gaming?

you guys really want 'consolidation'? Have you really think it through other than 'it's good for my wallet'?
 
Wereroku

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Doubtful that Sony would approve it if they did. Sony would lose more unless they restrict it to first party titles only which I can't see ms doing.
 
Lord Fanny

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RestEerie said:
what's with forum's fixation of thinking MS as the 'savior' of gaming?

you guys really want 'consolidation'? Have you really think it through other than 'it's good for my wallet'?
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OP isn't talking about consolidation. He's talking about MS basically going third party with Game Pass. It'd be the opposite of consolidation.
 
Dolce

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It means computers and mobile. How many people own a PS4/5 or Switch (outside of children and even then...) and don't own a computer or mobile phone? That means the barrier of entry has been reduced. They're not going to put it on rival systems.
 
Zeroth

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Lord Fanny said:
Not by my definition, obviously, or I wouldn't have said what I said directly before. When I say 'relatively near future,' I'm talking 10-20 years, and I doubt this gen will last that long until the next gen and/or refresh.
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If you said your definition of "near future" to something around the time the PS3 was launched, it would start happening either in the first half of the ps4 life or into the ps5. So it's a very "distant" future, if you catch my drift.
 
AmFreak

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This isn't decided by Ms, but by Sony and Nintendo and they would be crazy to allow it.
 
Wein Cruz

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Scottoest

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On a long enough timeline anything is possible. Do I think there's any inkling of a plan to do something like this? Absolutely not.
 
PlanetSmasher

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Gravijah said:
It means computers and mobile. How many people own a PS4/5 or Switch (outside of children and even then...) and don't own a computer or mobile phone? That means the barrier of entry has been reduced. They're not going to put it on rival systems.
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To be fair, nobody who owns a console wants to play AAA console games on their phone.
 
Lord Fanny

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Zeroth said:
If you said your definition of "near future" to something around the time the PS3 was launched, it would start happening either in the first half of the ps4 life or into the ps5. So it's a very "distant" future, if you catch my drift.
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Nah, I think I know what I meant better than anyone else. I'm good.
 
modiz

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I can see a "gamepass lite" service that only includes MS first party going to them because it's a "the games are there only if gamepass is" scenario, but just general gamepass seems very unlikely for me for this gen.
 
RestEerie

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Lord Fanny said:
OP isn't talking about consolidation. He's talking about MS basically going third party with Game Pass. It'd be the opposite of consolidation.
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MS is not porting all the games natively to the Playstation platform...that much is guaranteed because of the cost involved. Games porting and development is not a simple 'save as playstation format' in Visual Studio.

If you are talking about xcloud on Playstation, that's even less likely as allowing that means ppl on playstation will have less incentive to spend money on the Playstation store. Why would sony (or nintendo) allow a rival platform into their ecosystem such that it will take away revenues from them?

You do know all the platform owners wanted out of its user's base is money, right?

This topic is so delusionary in its 'utopian' vision, it's astounding. It reminds me of myself when i was 8 and thought you can just plug in a sega genesis cart into a NES and it will work.
 
tapedeck

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I think MS would prefer smart tv's and iOS to reach more customers. I could maybe see Gamepass on a Nintendo system far down the line...but PlayStation? Nah, never happen and I don't even think MS would want it.
 
Lord Fanny

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RestEerie said:
MS is not porting all the games natively to the Playstation platform...that much is guaranteed because of the cost involved. Games porting and development is not a simple 'save as playstation format' in Visual Studio.

If you are talking about xcloud on Playstation, that's even less likely as allowing that means ppl on playstation will have less incentive to spend money on the Playstation store. Why would sony (or nintendo) allow a rival platform into their ecosystem such that it will take away revenues from them?

You do know all the platform owners wanted out of its user's base is money, right?

This topic is so delusionary in its 'utopian' vision.
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Did you quote the wrong person lol. I was just explaining what the OP is talking about isn't consolidation, at least not in the traditional sense.
 
RestEerie

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Lord Fanny said:
Did you quote the wrong person lol. I was just explaining what the OP is talking about isn't consolidation, at least not in the traditional sense.
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again, i'm saying MS is not going '3rd party' as it's not going to port all their 1st party games natively to playstation due to cost.

and xCloud isn't coming to Playstation because why the hell would sony allows that? Someone needs to explain to me why would sony deliberately sabotage their revenue stream? because '4thegamers'?

both scenarios of it happening is next to nothing and even harboring that throught borders on delusional.
 
Lord Fanny

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RestEerie said:
again, i'm saying MS is not going '3rd party' as it's not going to port all their 1st party games natively to playstation due to cost.

and xCloud isn't coming to Playstation because why the hell would sony allows that? Someone needs to explain to me why would sony deliberately sabotage their revenue stream? because '4thegamers'?

both scenarios of it happening is next to nothing and even harboring that throught borders on delusional.
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I mean, I know what you're saying. I'm just not sure why you're saying it to me since it doesn't relate to my comment. You're not wrong with your assessment or anything, I largely agree, just weren't sure how you were relating that to consolidation or people thinking MS was a savior or anything lol
 
Pokemaniac

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Why would Nintendo or Sony ever allow Game Pass to come to their platforms? It would allow MS to directly cut in to their revenue.
 
LuigiMario

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It'd be awesome if Microsoft inked a deal with Nintendo, the switch really would be an awesome gamepass device and they could even add the option where if a game was ported to switch, you could download it to run natively. That said, don't see that happening for a number of reasons, Microsoft is likely way more into pursuing non gaming specific platforms to try and broaden the audience.
 
The Lord of Cereal

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Nah. Going onto other consoles is thinking to small and harmful to the Xbox eco system (pretty much Xbox bending the knee to PS/Nintendo) so I don't see it happening. They'll make pushes towards being available on mobile devices and smart TVs through xCloud and completely skip the middleman. Same with PC, they keep their client but also have a streaming client like stadia. The next piece of the puzzle is keyboard and mouse support natively in all future XGS games so that the option exists
 
jorgejjvr

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They gotta make it to windows, Apple devices, TVs, streaming sticks (or their own stick), web apps etc first. There's still no way to play it on a TV, unlike stadia and Luna. They did that first. Heck, I even want a Xbox controller to connect via wifi to their servers, for less latency. Then there's the matter of being 1080p-4k

I'm surprised their competitors got there first

A lot of priorities to achieve first, before switch and ps5 being a thing. I see Nintendo being more open to it than Sony, in a far off future
 
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skeezx

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i don't think it's too out there on the nintendo side of things. still unlikely though
 
RestEerie

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LuigiMario said:
It'd be awesome if Microsoft inked a deal with Nintendo, the switch really would be an awesome gamepass device and they could even add the option where if a game was ported to switch, you could download it to run natively. That said, don't see that happening for a number of reasons, Microsoft is likely way more into pursuing non gaming specific platforms to try and broaden the audience.
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explain to me why would nintendo allows that especially the bolded..
 
Welfare

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Hardware includes PC and Mobile which is where Microsoft is expanding. Xbox already covers consoles, and Game Pass with Xcloud is meant to expand the brand to PC and Mobile.
 
Cactuar

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Microsoft's "goal" doesn't have anything to do with Sony or Nintendo, and they're the ones who decide what goes on their platforms.
 
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