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Microsoft FY20 Q4 earnings: Xbox gaming revenue grew 64%. Hardware revenue: +49%. Content and Services: +65%
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User Banned (3 Days): Console wars
It's always good to see a player in the industry thriving, take notes Sony.
Lockhart may be a huge hit if this keep going.
Lockhart may be a huge hit if this keep going.
It's not even wide available or practical outside the US, right now. I can even use GamePass on my PC.
The margin on it is absurd. Don't discount how important that is for overall profitability.
Not as big as sales of games and DLC from which they get 30% for almost nothing. Sales of games and DLC is where over 50% revenue comes from.
People use games as one way of escaping the shitty reality. I don't see anything wrong with that. Great that MS is doing well.
Yeah I think it's unlikely as well. If they did do it, then it wouldn't be for altruistic reasons. They'd have a different goal in mind that would have to lead to increased revenue in some way.
Yeh I dont think people get it. Their gaming division probably gets ignored by investors as its peanuts lol
Which brings me the question , why is MS so invested in the gaming division ? I mean they could get rid of it and their shareholders wont give a shit
They've said this before - the gaming industry generates tens of billions of dollars in revenue. I guess Microsoft see that as a reason to invest in gaming. It also aligns nicely with their core strengths: cloud services, subscriptions, and software.
Huge LOL @ $1 GP hot takers. Where are they?
And yes, if Phil was happy to write off money on $60 games, he'll be open to drop XBL Gold if it means substantial gains in the future.
Yup. Consumers are going to be home for a while it seems, perfect opportunity to shake things up.
And yes, if Phil was happy to write off money on $60 games, he'll be open to drop XBL Gold if it means substantial gains in the future.
Yup. Consumers are going to be home for a while it seems, perfect opportunity to shake things up.
Other than the fact that the Xbox is a popular brand? The gaming division is a big part of their cloud plans.
Xbox is potentially a huge driver for Azure, their tech stack goes beyond Xbox, and positions them favourably for game businesses that want to use thier backend. And then game streaming with 5G is expected to be substantial, especially on Asia, MS are improving their readiness for this eventuality.
Why are you even posting on a Gaming Forum while people are sick and dying from a global pandemic?
Honestly, this is not about favorite corporates getting richer, but people celebrating the success of things they like and are, in some way, meaningful in their lives - SPECIALLY during a global pandemic where most of us are locked inside our homes.
Just like we celebrate - very often - when a game sells X million units, we're allowed to share and discuss the growth of business related to our passion: gaming. If you don't like it, I'm sorry, just go to the next thread.
This!
GamePass, in theory, means that they're selling less copies of the games - specially first party. But in reality, it's been confirmed multiple times that Game Pass subscribers are buying lots of games they "try" on the service and want to own permanently. They're also more likely to purchase more DLCs / Season Pass for the games in the service.
And just like that, the discussion about dropping XBL Gold isn't that easy. More people being able to play online (for free) means more people on the ecosystem and more potential subscribers for Game Pass. We also don't know the percentage of users who pay for Ultimate or Gold + GamePass at the same time, so they might not lose too much by dropping Live Gold.
I'm interested to see their strategy, but I strongly believe that with all their games releasing on PC, it's likely we'll see the death of online paywall sooner or later.
They will! I bet they make it "free" for Gamepass Ultimate Subscribers!
Yes. Even Sony are using Azure, I believe. There's gold in the gaming industry and Microsoft will get what they can get.
Is it ? news to me.maybe slightly popular in the US, but WW I dont think so.
You don't sell 50 million consoles while not being a popular gaming brand.
Checks global population numbers...................................hmmmmmm, somethings not right.
Also they're on PC now which will make inroads in Asian and European countries in regards to brand popularity.
So if I said 'good job Nintendo/Sony/Microsoft, for giving more content per money!' it's console warring? Really?
Fuck off.
Jeez this post sounds console warrior-ish. Also PSNow is available on PC as well.
Anyways, I'm excited to see what Xbox brings tomorrow. No more online multiplayer behind a paywall would be awesome, even though it's supposed to be all games tomorrow.
Gamepass is the future of this industry.
Absolutely disrupting and amazing value with great game lineup at all times.
I can't wait until this is standard across all the big hardware manufacturers!
Also, shocking numbers for Xbox. It's great to see them posting growth and revenue especially at the tail end of the generation.
Absolutely disrupting and amazing value with great game lineup at all times.
I can't wait until this is standard across all the big hardware manufacturers!
Also, shocking numbers for Xbox. It's great to see them posting growth and revenue especially at the tail end of the generation.
Not at all, maybe you don't know, but PSNow is not available in a lot of countries, PC or PS4.
GamePass is great value and can make Nintendo and Sony take another look in what they're offering, thus, making the industry better for the consumer. I'm def not a console warrior.
50 mil? Didn't know that, you have a source for that? even if that is true, it took them 7 years to reach that number. WW xbox is not a popular gaming brand lol.
360 sold what 90 million? Xbox One despite its issues is at 50+ million worldwide.
It might not be huge outside of America and a few other countries (Mexico, Brazil, UK, etc), but saying it's not a popular brand is way off point imo.
Why wouldn't someone spending hundreds of dollars on a gaming console not care about the "insane value" of GamePass? Isn't that person buying the console...to play games?
its wild that in a thread about record growth and success for Xbox you are here questioning the relevance of Xbox lmao
Unfortunately, we don't have the official numbers. The only source we have is a tweet by ZhugeEX, which has a good reputation on this :)
Context around this tweet is based on a claim by AMD about selling 150+ million units of consoles using their processors. This is from earlier this year.
Considering the recent growth in hardware revenue for FY20 Q4 (49%), the recent price decrease of Xbox One X and the fact that consoles were sold out during the initial months of the pandemic, I guess that number is probably higher now.
The way you framed it is that Microsoft is thriving and Sony should take notes, implying they are not thriving and need to follow suit. Both companies can do their own thing and thrive just fine.
And for clarification to your earlier post mentioning PS Now not being practical outside the USA, it's currently available in 19 countries and you can use it on PC to stream games as well. I imagine we'll learn more about how the service will evolve in the coming weeks.
How come they dont share the amount of consoles they shipped? Because of the low numbers? that's fine I guess. As the xbox is now a service. I am wondering If they had massive console sales, would they have shared that info.
Or they don't care about hard consoles numbers, the numbers that matter for them are Content growth, user base growth Etc.
They did this switch with azure and office and it worked wonders there too
I don't think PS Now is well compared to GamePass, and all signals point to xCloud to be well pass PS Now streaming which has never been more than an average in both tech and game offerings.
Considering the white hot success MS is seeing with GamePass - along with the positive coverage it has been receiving since launch - does suggest that Sony could do more here. They have a different strategy, yes, but they are behind in this service specific offerings. They are fine, but if that becomes more important than that could be a problem long term.
I can't recall where I read this, but someone said that Satya Nadella liked the XBOX Brand because it resonated with younger people and it was a great way to promote the company
I wasn't trying to get into a comparison between the services, just correcting that users comments regarding PS Now.
We do know that PS Now is undergoing refinement behind the scenes with the move to Azure, the eventual addition of PS5 hardware, expansion to more regions and devices and the MoU with Microsoft for both companies to collaborate to improve both of their cloud service offerings. The content very well might see a shift going into next gen as well, we just have to wait until Sony is ready to share that information.
What? Why you Sony take notes? Are we living in different universes?
Also, while game pass is available in more countries, don't pretend like psnow is like in two. There is no point in trying to be a console warrior
