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Microsoft FY19Q4 financial results: Gaming Revenue $2.05bn (down 10%YoY) | Xbox Live MAU 65M (up 14%YoY)
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Could be but others have also announced their next gen console and sales haven't dropped
Well the results aren't exactly glowing, but that's cool because we must all just be trolls.
Game pass and their other policy changes are great for people already in the ecosystem, but it's not the sort of 'oh shit I need to get that console' hype that sells consoles. Look how many PS4s were sold right on the back of Spider-man and God of War. Microsoft need LOTS more AAA super-hyped games to sell consoles, then use their awesome services like Game pass to milk those people for as much money as possible once they have nabbed them. Sea of Thieves may be a fun game that is a great revenue maker out of the current player base due to the GAAS part, but how many people went out and bought a console just to play that game? how many people did it bring in to the MS eco-system for them to then make money of with future content? not many I would bet on.
Scarlett will only deliver if it has the games. The hardware inside it won't be the issue at all, the vast majority of people won't care about a few % difference in performance between consoles, plus or minus, only how awesome the games look. Forza is niche, Gears and Halo seem to be losing momentum as the series has gone on, although Halo Infinite looks like it will bring the hype. They desperately need new IP. Look how smoothly Sony managed to bring in new IP like Last of Us last gen and Horizon this gen. Look how they managed to reinvent a tired IP in God of War. Where are Microsoft's version of these?
Are you sure about that? Sony's own forecast for the fiscal year (April 2019 - March 2020) puts PS4 down by 10% year-over-year in unit sales, and there hasn't been any significant price cut.
Source for that? Switch is obvious here, but you're saying the PS4 is still selling as well as the previous year when it had GoW, MHW and Fortnite among others? And this year it has had Days Gone, Kingdom Hearts 3 and... not much else that could be a system seller.
But there's no guarantee it's gonna be on gamepass. If there's people that think like that, i feel like it's a real minority.
I wouldn't compare Sony announcing the PS5 in a wired article on a random Tuesday vs MS already announcing their next gen at TWO e3's, one of them having a video outlining the console.
Based on their forcast drop will be 10% without any price drops at the moment. . We have to wait for their financial soon
Yes, but the end of the day hasn't come yet.
I'd say it's still before sunrise.
Firstly, we don't know Sony's hardware sales for the last quarter yet so you can't claim this just now. Secondly, Sony's hardware sales did actually decline YoY for the Jan-March quarter this year (19m to 17.8m).
Regardless, Sony is continuing to ride high on a stream of successful first party exclusives, whilst Microsoft is suffering in that department after years of well known under investment. And not just under investment in first party, but in every department including marketing, localisation, third party partnerships etc. Last year we saw PS4 get exclusive marketing for RDR2, FIFA and CoD all at the same time. Meanwhile Xbox had to make do with Tomb Raider and Fallout 76 because when these deals were struck, Xbox had no budget.
It's remarkable that Xbox One is still alive. Most consoles wouldn't have survived the crap that platform has been through right since its initial reveal in 2013. So fair play to Microsoft really. Next gen will be much more interesting for them at least.
It will pass 50m unless sales drop off a cliff, it's still going to be on sale for 2-3 years at least. 60m though is not likely.
The Sony cheerleader troupe called it "a stroke of genius":
So it seems to depend on who you ask.
Their 1st party offerings aren't so hot but they've still got Call of Duty, GTA, RDR2, Fortnite etc. so it's not like it was going to be another Wii U or something.
I'm not gonna comment on that or whatever.
However, they are definitely both different.
You go to E3 and have a whole produced video shown to millions vs an article?
One is clearly making it more of an announcement vs the other.
Not saying one way is better than the other.
They have 65 million Xbox live subscriber. 65 million. Do you really think Xbox was dying?
The Scarlett announcement wasn't until 10th June, I doubt it had much impact, if any at all, on the quarter's hardware sales tbh.
Firstly, I never said Xbox was dying and I think you misinterpreted the point of my post. Quite the opposite, the brand and fan base is strong enough to have weathered 6 years of negativity.
Secondly, they do not have 65 million Xbox Live subscribers.
They did mention the yoy decline was so large in part because of a strong q4 in 18. They had a 39% increase in that quarter - likely mostly Fortnite push.
I wonder what the decline is in sales for headset manufacturers. Those were hugely pushed by Fortnite growth - and to a lesser extent other battle royale games.
Not a good look in hardware.. I mean, didn't think it'd be this bad with Xbox SAD and the Xbox one X on the market.
They really need a gen reset...
They really need a gen reset...
12 billion in profit. Jesus. O.o Microsoft cloud really feels like it has no ceiling. Crazy numbers.
Xbox as platform next gen will be very healthy but the sale of next gen console will suffer due to this approach imo(just my opinion ofcourse) . Anyways we shall wait and see how it turns out next gen .
Microsoft should really consider acquiring a publisher with that amount of bankroll. Holy smokes. Capcom would be nice get. A few Japanese devs like From and Platinum would make a lot of noise as well.
With their games releasing on Steam and xCloud in the future, those MAU's should go up. That should be Spencer's biggest concern. Will he be able to grab the PC market (and will they subscribe to Game Pass?)
Power never is a sole reason to buy a console and neither are services. Games are what sell hardware.
Yikes. That's not good. Xbox needed to become epic 5 years ago. The network effect is too strong for them to overcome Sony and Nintendo.
Phil can say that, but it makes no sense. If I'm getting to play Metro Exodus and Void Bastards for $1, why am I going to turn around and buy them for $90?
It doesn't make an ounce of sense.
As for Game Pass itself, Microsoft's going to take a hit when other big third parties decide they want a subscription model. Square's already considering it, so that would mean no more Square games. WB could believably want one as well. Things will definitely be changing.
You could also say that Xbox might be worse without game pass.
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His biggest concern should be software and services.
MAU going up doesn't mean nothing when software and services are on decline.
MS are definitely going to go hard on Xcloud and Gamepass next gen as I see their hardware continue to drop. Its funny all the jokes about Nintendo or even Sony going third party last gen but it looks like MS is the most likely to do so. I'm happy as a PC gamer that I finally get to play the new Halo at least.
Where would that put the system in comparison to the original Xbox and 360?
Wow, I knew XBO had a rough start but didn't realize it had fallen that short of its predecessor.
Microsoft moving to services makes all the more sense given the carryover between generations is going to be even stronger in 2020.
I'm totally reading that question is the DBZ narrator's voice in my head.
"Find our next time, on DRAGON BALL Z"
*outtro theme*
But to answer your question, I think that depends on what you mean by "grab." If you mean getting a significant portion of users on W10/Xbox store as their primary purchasing place, no way. Too much competition from Steam, GoG, and especially Epic now. Plus no EA, Ubisoft, or Bethesda games either really hurts those chances even more.
I think Game Pass can get somewhat of a decent user base. It won't be massive, but I think it will be enough to make it worth Microsoft's while.
Explains the crazy GamePass fire sale, saw those hardware numbers and realized they needed to do something to keep and get people into their ecosystem.
They still care about hardware numbers otherwise they wouldn't give people so much GamePass for so long for so cheap. It's a way of setting up repeat customers for next gen and getting some new ones.
They still care about hardware numbers otherwise they wouldn't give people so much GamePass for so long for so cheap. It's a way of setting up repeat customers for next gen and getting some new ones.
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Wait, Sony peeps can't discuss Xbox's results?
My issue is from experience alot of posters have no vetted interest in the Xbox platform to begin with. They just concern troll and it's been going on for years now. There is a reason why most Xbox related threads go to shit! Just look at the Gears 5 threads as a good example!
You don't need to have an interest in the platform to discuss it though, specially it's performance, the games? Yeah, people without one won't have much to discuss.
Gamepass is stemming the tide of declining hardware? Is Gamepass driving the living subscription growth?
*Does not own an XBONE or PS4.
The entire concept of a Sony 'peep' is an insane concept. As a Sony product owner, you're entitled to be invested in Sony's success. However, you don't work for Sony and Sony is not your identity.
*Does not own an XBONE or PS4.