Without first party on release the two services are completely different beasts
Ring me up when sony do something similar I'll give my annual money for it
Ring me up when sony do something similar I'll give my annual money for it
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Microsoft deserves more praise for a fantastic service like Gamepass. Will Sony or Nintendo follow up with a similar service next gen?
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Suspend/resume just about loading times, but simply returning to precisely the point I was at. I could be half way through a boss fight, about to finish a race, or simply in the middle of some fiddly inventory juggling. There are lots of points where it's valid to want to return to rather than resuming from the last validated save file.
Tetris DX had an amazing implementation of suspend/resume. The game would auto suspend when you paused the game, so turning on the Game Boy would simply return to the pause screen. You didn't have to select an option, it was just like this by default. I once kept a marathon Tetris game going for three weeks of commutes.
Yeah, then for example BOTW or Mario Odyssey wouldn't be sold in 13+ million copies. Not to mention GOW, Spider-man, Horizon etc.
Yeah, the reasons why decisions are taken hardly matter.
If they're good for you, they're good for you.
Same if they're bad for you.
Companies' bottom lines are hardly my business (other than the one I work for ofc).
GamePass has been shown to have a significantly increase sales.
https://m.windowscentral.com/xbox-game-pass-increases-game-sales-and-playtime-says-microsoft
Almost certainly xCloud will "be" GP. The two complete each other.
Cd3 is not a goty for sure (being generous) so I don't think is a good example
Well your anecdote sure pokes a hole in those statistics! Thanks for sharing.
Game is 1st party title and it's on GP, so, yeah it counts.
There are first party releases on PS Now though, not the latest ones mind, but there's a good selection on there imo.
As of now there is:
- Ape Escape
- Alienation
- Beyond: Two Souls
- Bound
- Bloodborne
- Dead Nation
- Everybody's Tennis
- Everybody's Golf
- Flow
- Flower
- GOW series (except the latest edition)
- Gravity Rush Remastered
- Heavy Rain
- Hohokum
- Ico
- Infamous 1 & 2 plus Festival of Blood
-Journey
- Killzone Series (except Vita version)
- Knack
- LocoRoco and LocoRoco Cocoreccho!
- Motostorm Apocalypse and RC
- Puppeteer
- rain
- Ratchet and Clank (A Crack in Time, All 4 One, Nexus, QForce, Quest for Booty)
- Resistance 3
- Shadow of the Beast
- Shadow of the Colossus HD
- Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time
- Sly Cooper Collection
- Sound Shapes
- Tearaway Unfolded
- The Last of Us + Left Behind
- The Unfinished Swan
- Tokyo Jungle
- Twisted Metal
- Uncharted 1, 2 and 3
- Until Dawn
Edited to add: these are all published under SIE.
ps4 is my main console and then switch and xbox the leftovers BUT i have been playing more xbox because of gamepass and i tried psNOW but there is a huge issue with that most are not saying.....STREAMING.
my internet can NOT handle that at all where gamepass lets me download the whole game and install it, psNOW really needs to change up how it works to compete with gamepass and allow installs.
i grabbed those price deals and have 2 years of gamepass. its made my xbox fun again
my internet can NOT handle that at all where gamepass lets me download the whole game and install it, psNOW really needs to change up how it works to compete with gamepass and allow installs.
i grabbed those price deals and have 2 years of gamepass. its made my xbox fun again
How many of these can you stream and download? Its PS4 downloads only right? So i dont think you can say the service provides gamers with certainty about being able to play these games, which to me is a major issue. A choppy internet connection (we all get it at times) means a large portion of the service is unusable.
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Na a bad game Is a bad game no matter where or how it sold
Quality of the games is fine on PS Now, they're mostly old ones though. In that sense Gamepass is a much better value for money proposition. A plus for PS Now would be that you can play these games anywhere via the streaming option. Both serve a different purpose
He said 'on release'. Most of those, if not all, were added to the service long after their initial release.
The likelihood of Sony and Nintendo games on a Game Pass service on day 1 are non-existent. A better PS Now could happen, but I don't see it anywhere close to Game Pass library. Nintendo will continue with native ports and push its legacy titles through Nintendo Switch Online and expand to SNES, GBA etc. I am pessimistic about more legacy content, too.
have they added download mode to PSnow? did the trial awhile back ...will check it out again if they did.
I totally regret getting rid of my Xbone now. It was only after I sold it that Game Pass started to include games I really want to play. Plus I discovered the Microsoft Rewards thing is linked to it. Goddamn.
Funny how Netflix can survive without movie theaters.
Nintendo will do that only to retro games (snes will come soon, for example).
Sony will never have a service to match GP because there's no way they would put their most high profile games in a service tied with a very cheap monthly cost.
Microsoft has a beautiful service, what remains to be seen is if it will bite them back when the really big titles (like halo infinite) drops. These are not Sea of Thieves or State of Decay. But I think they will do fine, since forza already passed the test.
Sony will never have a service to match GP because there's no way they would put their most high profile games in a service tied with a very cheap monthly cost.
Microsoft has a beautiful service, what remains to be seen is if it will bite them back when the really big titles (like halo infinite) drops. These are not Sea of Thieves or State of Decay. But I think they will do fine, since forza already passed the test.
Lol! This is not the same as psnow. Really people?! There is night and day difference in value from 1st party and 3rd party. Gamepass is much (I'm gonna say much a couple more times) much, much more valuable service and yes Sony should follow and revamp PS now to be like Gamepass or create a new service altogether. Every time I hear people say that PSNow exists whenever Gamepass conversation starts I shake me head.. "but Sony did it first!" Really? Gamepass is qualitatively different in magnitude and value. It's a different service on a different tier. Does it just make your heart flutter to pretend that platform has been doing something that they haven't? I don't get it.
I really like Game Pass it's a brilliant service and has got me back into Xbox One. At the moment I'm playing Monster Hunter World which is an amazing addition to the library.
If Sony doesn't produce something similar I.e drastically improve PS Now on PS5 then I may just stick with Nintendo and out of the two (Sony, Xbox) I may just go Xbox for next gen. Especially if they announce Game Pass on Nintendo Switch, which seems heavily rumoured. Anyway next Xbox and PS5 are a long way off in the grand scheme of things.
If Sony doesn't produce something similar I.e drastically improve PS Now on PS5 then I may just stick with Nintendo and out of the two (Sony, Xbox) I may just go Xbox for next gen. Especially if they announce Game Pass on Nintendo Switch, which seems heavily rumoured. Anyway next Xbox and PS5 are a long way off in the grand scheme of things.
Having read a lot of threads on here talking about how bad PS Now ran I was expecting a terrible experience, and being in Ireland I was expecting it to be even more substandard, but I was pleasantly surprised with how well it worked. I am on a 300mb/s internet connection and hardwired though, so I guess your MMV on that front.
With regards downloading the games, personally I've used it to clear up some space on my HD and play the few games I had on there via PS Now to make space for titles not on the service. So that's worked out as an advantage for me. I can see though how you'd want to be able to download everything if your connection wasn't so good however.
Fair enough, I actually misread the post there, and thought it just said first party.
Oh no!!! Lolol. Really this thread alone proves that people don't understand the ridiculous thing MS are doing with Gamepass. It's an absurd amount of games (new games too) at the highest console quality (on x) for $10 a month. The first party games come and just stay and I have been surprised and impressed by the quality of 3rd party AAA and AA on the service. Let's just say this, if you play a lot of games on the Xbox platform and you don't have Gamepass you are being stupid at this point.
As a PS Now sub, I've gotta agree with this. It's been pretty disappointing so far. Every time I see or hear about Gamepass additions I'm always envious.
As for Nintendo, I can't see them ever offering anything close to gamepass or even ps now.
I think MS gets more than enough credit for their service. Imho, GamePass is largely overrated.
Also, OP you should probably educate yourself on what PSNow is and its library before jumping to conclusions.
Also, OP you should probably educate yourself on what PSNow is and its library before jumping to conclusions.
I honestly don't think the Netflix model works for games. At least not on the same scale.
If you look at the sales charts over the last 10 years or so, it's FIFA, GTA, CoD at the top in some order.
Don't believe average gamers really have time nor the need to play a new game every month.
Can only speak for my personal casual gamer friends but they don't even play the games they get for free on Ps+.
I really believe that MS has created a wonderful service and appreciate the value it gives, I just doubt it will have any lasting impact.
If you look at the sales charts over the last 10 years or so, it's FIFA, GTA, CoD at the top in some order.
Don't believe average gamers really have time nor the need to play a new game every month.
Can only speak for my personal casual gamer friends but they don't even play the games they get for free on Ps+.
I really believe that MS has created a wonderful service and appreciate the value it gives, I just doubt it will have any lasting impact.
Well hate to break it to ya, there is no rolling this ball back up this hill unless Microsoft pulls a Sega Dreamcast next gen. I rather sub to a service than drop $60 Everytime a exclusive comes out.
Have to agree with all those saying Gamepass gets too much credit. I'd rather own games and have permanent access to them, it seems like a disaster waiting to happen if people are going to go all in on these services.
As we've seen over and over again with subscription services they all start out at an enticing value but gradually raise the price and lower the quality once they have the audience. Ushering people into the net is actually a bit gross.
It seems inevitable that people will spend years on this service, spend hundreds and eventually realise it's a bad deal once the terms change and leave with no lasting return for their cash. Maybe some just see games as a one time consumable thing that they'll never have a desire to play again? That's a pity if so.
As we've seen over and over again with subscription services they all start out at an enticing value but gradually raise the price and lower the quality once they have the audience. Ushering people into the net is actually a bit gross.
It seems inevitable that people will spend years on this service, spend hundreds and eventually realise it's a bad deal once the terms change and leave with no lasting return for their cash. Maybe some just see games as a one time consumable thing that they'll never have a desire to play again? That's a pity if so.
OP should have done some research before making this thread.
PsNow came before gamepass
Has more games
Is doing really well
You can play on PC via streaming
PsNow came before gamepass
Has more games
Is doing really well
You can play on PC via streaming
Assuming you keep all the copies forever and get every game on day one.... yeah the sub is a better deal in that particular case.
Just doesn't apply to everyone because of deals and the ability to sell your 60$ copy for 40$ once you finished the game.
That said, I feel like we've been through all those arguments back and forth on GAF when EA Access launched.
Fair enough. That said, in most of those scenarios I would completely lose my flow, which would probably lead to a reload anyway.
You weren't going to buy a PlayStation console and play their first party games in the first place.
This is like when people say "well now I'll NEVER buy that game" when they had no real intention of buying it in the first place.
Must agree.
TBH I still buy new games, but a lot less (maybe just 4 a year) and I am also not really doing impulse buys any more. I always have stuff on GP to play, so "other" games now seem much more "thought-out" buying decisions. Does that make sense?
Having more games does not = more value, a lot of those games are just filler and it's better to download than strema currently
Hu? Where does that come from? Who/what do you have in mind? I would say it is the opposite, sub services get better the more members and the more money they generate.
I owned a X1 for two years and yeah, EA Access was a great deal for me too while I had it.
Not trying to shit on sub services as a whole.
It's just stupid to argue what scheme of buying games is the "best deal". Always depends on what person we are talking about.
In 2013-2014 I gamed a lot for example and a sub service was a great deal for me.
Nowadays it's much better for me to just buy whatever I want and sell it on ebay when I'm done.
All in all, more options are always welcome.
Netflix is a prime example. Shrinking content offering, higher prices, more worthless "first party" content that no one really wants and/or isn't good.
That's a fallacy. One does not have to stop buying games just because they're subscribing to a service like Game Pass. My spending did not decrease because I subcribe to Game Pass, but now I have more money to buy other games. I also discover interesting games through GP, which can lead to unforeseen purchases. If I find a game worthwhile, I will still buy it to keep, but now I can wait for a sale AND play it day one. In fact, just subscribing gives me a discount.
And yes, I think that most people do consider games disposable entertainment, that's perfectly fine. We are just a minority.
You certainly don't speak for everyone. Their own movies and series have generally been of good quality, and at this point they are one of the main reasons for why I subscribe to the service instead of a competing one. Actually, it's the wealth of both exclusives and 3rd party content that makes it more enticing than something like HBO, much like it's with PS4 for me. However, it remains to be seen how long Netflix can continue to spend that kind of money to create such content.