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Microsoft deserves more praise for a fantastic service like Gamepass. Will Sony or Nintendo follow up with a similar service next gen?
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Ps Now's downloadable library is significantly larger than all of Game Pass. All games are streamable to multiple platforms, and the total library is over 800 games.
The only significant difference is that Microsoft's first party games have so little value compared to Sony's first party games that they can be tossed into a subscription service without fear of enormous losses.
Not sure what you mean by "continue", MS have demonstrated they're addressing critism about 1st party output. Everything else, they've been leading the way with crossplay, BC, accessibility controller for a neglected section of the gaming populace, third party service integration like EA access, console hardware etc.
Yes, because MS wants to be integrated in everything like Google is. This was gonna happen sooner or later.
I don't doubt that. I just have to wonder more I guess if the offerings would be as robust, such as day one for first party, or the pricing being as cheap as it often is since Gamepass is on sale almost all the time.
Sony already has it with PS Now. Their third party offering (even when just considering the ps4 downloadable titles rather than include the streaming ps3 titles) is actually very comparable to GamePass. Their first parties are not featured day and date for obvious reasons, but I do think they will bring down the average amount of time it takes for those to show up on the service next gen.
Yeah no way to tell for sure. A company in desperation mode is good for us, I guess.
Windows Phone when?
Sorry, was hard not to
It seems to be getting well
But will Sony offer such a service?
I'd wager all MS 1st party games are just as costly to make as anything Sony puts out and MS multiplayer games being far bigger then anything Sony can offer, and despite that they're on subscription day 1, so that is a sizable amount of value that others do not provide.
Because GP increases sales for games that arnt flat out shit (CD3), this has been reported by MS.
I can see Sony putting their first-party games day one on PS Now as part of the initiative to push cloud gaming next gen with more competition coming into the space. Harken back to what Cerny has said that they are pioneers of this space, it's really inevitable that it'll happen.
People need to realize that if Sony could make more money doing what Microsoft does with Game Pass, they would probably do it in a heartbeat.
Was that exactly Microsofts edited wording? Gamepass sells games, except Crackdown 3 because that one was shit?
It seems to be getting well
Could?
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Yeah, I believe that even MS doesn't know whether gp will make them more money in 3 years or so. I wonder why they don't release game pass numbers.
If people were clever they'd gamepass Halo Infinite ...those who only play it for the campaign pay 10$ or less instead of 60$.
Good for consumers, not a healthy business model in the long run. The state can cut taxes by 50% which is pro-citizen, but is that really a good thing?
User banned (2 days): System warring.
Been saying this for a long time. The same way Disney puts out Marvel and Star wars movies to stream 6 months after release because they get crazy high sales at release. If Sony does anything, it'll be this.
Yup. People fawn over Microsoft for this thing almost no games get released. Reminds me a lot about how people prised ms for adding more services to the Xbox os and I was like "ok, I bought a console to play games not to get a new app on the os"
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Where's the 3P games on PSNOW that match the value of Monster Hunter World, Shadow of the Tomb Raider or Just Cause 4 on Gamepass?
Let's be clear. Game Pass is better than PS Now. Not because of the day and date first party. Or at least not solely. The entire library, especially third party, is better. Way. Way. Better. In the same way that people legitimately criticize Microsoft's first party lineup, so do I criticize ps now's. God of War is there. Three. Uncharted is there. Three. And I think that's ok. But then you get hundreds of games that nobody wants to play.
Game pass completely outclasses on third party library and quality. Just straight up.
Nintendo can't afford this service. They make their money on sales. This is not additive to their business model.
Sony certainly operates ps now. But, not the way Microsoft has been willing to. Until they spend the money to make the big deals, that's what shows consumers that Sony isn't taking PS Now seriously. That's definitely fixable. Sony can always spend the money to upgrade. I hope they will. It's a great thing for consumers
Game pass completely outclasses on third party library and quality. Just straight up.
Nintendo can't afford this service. They make their money on sales. This is not additive to their business model.
Sony certainly operates ps now. But, not the way Microsoft has been willing to. Until they spend the money to make the big deals, that's what shows consumers that Sony isn't taking PS Now seriously. That's definitely fixable. Sony can always spend the money to upgrade. I hope they will. It's a great thing for consumers
Lol What do their 1st/2nd party offerings have to do with how they handle online services, their OS, and subscriptions? They can be weak in one area while being rightly praised for excelling in another, as odd of a concept that may be for you
I'm talking about overall breadth and variety. Not a select few. If we were talking about which service tends to have the more recent big name third party titles, then sure Gamepass takes that crown.
Microsoft has an angel in Phil Spencer steering the ship. Thanks to him we'll probably see Banjo Kazooie in Smash. He's an open minded and gamer-centric leader. Crackdown 3 and Sea of Thieves available for free on launch through Gamepass is just insane - show me an offer that good from the other console makers.
Sony has completely descended into arrogance so I don't know or care if they'll implement a service as generous as Gamepass but it's not bloody likely. Don't even mention Nintendo and online in the same sentence.
Sony has completely descended into arrogance so I don't know or care if they'll implement a service as generous as Gamepass but it's not bloody likely. Don't even mention Nintendo and online in the same sentence.
Although Sony already has that service and has had it before XGP was even a thing I definitely agree with people who say that the library of games is lacking. I completely understand why Sony doesn't put their 1st party games on the service on day 1, but I don't understand why older exclusives aren't on the service yet. Where are the inFAMOUS games? How about Uncharted 4? The Remastered versions of The Last of Us and the PS3 Uncharted games? And the list goes on.
not just number of games, I'd say the average quality of games offered on both service is comparable as well. More recent =/= better either in terms of quality btw.
Or they could realize that giving away their critically aclaimed and enormous selling exclusives for $10 a month($1 at times) makes little financial sense at all. Doubly so for Nintendo. They aren't missing out on anything by devaluing their games completely.
I'd rather pay full price Sony 1st party games than pay the 10 bucks for Sea of thieves and crackdown 3, or any 1st party game MS has offered this gen. That's just me though...
Okay so for starters you can't equate a movie that makes most of its money in theaters And is a wholly different experience in theaters to a game. Stop.
You can mitigate what you'd "lose" being day one on PS now. Offer enticing collectors editions, offer season pass bundles, do early release ultimate editions. It's not difficult. Plus the game is still gonna sell. People like to own things. Forza Horizon 4 ultimate charted on NPD even though it was on Gamepass. Some of y'all act like Sony has Nintendo level IP. Spider-Man is already $40 not even a year later. BOTW is still $60 still selling. Mario Odyssey still $60 still selling. When your first party titles are still selling at full price 2 years later....then we can talk about devaluing using a subscription service. This doesn't make sense for Nintendo, Sony imo has little to lose if a thing.
Sony will probably mimick the "Netflix Originals" or "Hulu Essentials" branding release with PS Now. You'll have 1st party titles appear on the service months after it's release or create PS Now service exclusive titles (Cloud exclusive), to lure consumers to their Streaming ecosystem.
Gamepass strategy works exclusively with Microsoft's current 1st party software output situation as they can't seem the match the competitive output of Sony / Nintendo.
If anything, Microsoft was smart to capitalize on the weak aspects of their 1st party divisions by inundating Gamepass with 1st party offerings and an abundance of third party titles as Sony / Nintendo won't be adopting the concept any time soon in the future. Leaving an entirely new digital service venue to themselves with no competition available to grab a portion of the revenue.
Microsoft will be wise to blow up this service as mindshare for next gen consoles resets to 0
I am fully expecting Gamepass to be at the forefront for their next gen digital game streaming strategy.
Gamepass strategy works exclusively with Microsoft's current 1st party software output situation as they can't seem the match the competitive output of Sony / Nintendo.
If anything, Microsoft was smart to capitalize on the weak aspects of their 1st party divisions by inundating Gamepass with 1st party offerings and an abundance of third party titles as Sony / Nintendo won't be adopting the concept any time soon in the future. Leaving an entirely new digital service venue to themselves with no competition available to grab a portion of the revenue.
Microsoft will be wise to blow up this service as mindshare for next gen consoles resets to 0
I am fully expecting Gamepass to be at the forefront for their next gen digital game streaming strategy.
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Essentially you want Sony's first party games in PSNow, a game subscription service they've had going for almost 5 years now, and is actually cheaper than Gamepass at the annual subscription price point of $100/year ($8.30/month) that also allows for the online portion of games to be accessed without Playstation Plus, unlike Xbox Game Pass which needs Xbox Live Gold in order to do the same thing.
Terrible take which is the norm for you. Sony has plenty to lose.
Plenty of Sony's IPs have become incredibly successful. Maybe their highest selling games don't reach Nintendo's sales heights but they've begun to match Nintendo nowadays and so would have plenty to lose from putting their high profile titles in something like GamePass early on
Everyone just ignoring / downplaying PS Now is increasingly funny to me. But you're all correct that it feels like PS Now isn't pushed as aggressively, and getting all MS first party games day one is a boon. That said, pound for pound, I'd still say PS Now might actually be the better service for my taste at the moment, because MS 1st party hasn't kicked into gear at all yet... while you can play older first party Sony games like TLOU on PS Now... and I'd rather play that than Crackdown 3, personally.
Still. As things stand, I think Game Pass will quickly overtake PS Now, and Sony would gain from promoting it more. I expect they will very much do that as they kick off the next generation.
Still. As things stand, I think Game Pass will quickly overtake PS Now, and Sony would gain from promoting it more. I expect they will very much do that as they kick off the next generation.
I think Gamepass is cool and probably going to be an inspiration for similar services sometime in the future but I doubt Sony and Nintendo will follow suit soon. In fact, I think it is an example of Microsoft sort of stumbling in to innovation and success. If Xbox was as strong this generation as it was last generation I doubt it would have ever existed.
I don't think Sony or Nintendo could add to a similar service their first party titles on day one.
It's a little odd to keep hearing people use Crackdown 3 as the metric to good 1st party games on the service. Not only will future 1st party show up there from the studios MS has acquired, decent 3rd party offerings are also there, as well as not ignoring indies. It's truly a service built for the gamer.
To be fair, Microsoft's overall output this gen has been rather lackluster so I can see why they're being a bit dismissive but, yeah, even so, I think there's plenty of signs that their output will be much better going forward so something like Crackdown 3 shouldn't be what we're looking towards as an example of Microsoft's best
I mean I see Gamepass being praised daily here, and rightly so. It obliterates PSNow in terms of value right now.
However after a few years of PSNow doing little more than existing (which is where I think most of the bad perception comes from ; such a shitty launch is hard to erase from the minds of gamers) Sony have finally shown that they're willing to really improve and invest in the service. And it will be a much bigger part of the Playstation ecosystem next gen for sure. First party titles will never be there day one of course, nor should they, but I expect that the release/PSNow gap will be significantly shortened. Having big first party titles a couple of years later on PSNow would make it much more enticing.
Nintendo isn't even part of the conversation.
However after a few years of PSNow doing little more than existing (which is where I think most of the bad perception comes from ; such a shitty launch is hard to erase from the minds of gamers) Sony have finally shown that they're willing to really improve and invest in the service. And it will be a much bigger part of the Playstation ecosystem next gen for sure. First party titles will never be there day one of course, nor should they, but I expect that the release/PSNow gap will be significantly shortened. Having big first party titles a couple of years later on PSNow would make it much more enticing.
Nintendo isn't even part of the conversation.